Peter Wiley wrote:
Dave wrote:
Sorry, Peter, but a U.S. Constitutional law scholar you're not.

How true. Perhaps you'd like to tell me that the police in the USA can
stop any/all vehicles on a public road and search them any time,
without any reason to suspect they're transporting something illegal?
....snip...

Ahhh, yes. Driving through Mississippi in an expensive (foreign)
sportscar with long hair in the 60s... After pulling me over, their
stopping policy (I assume it was their policy because they used it on
me more than once) was to kneel behind their opened doors with their
guns drawn and hammers back and yell, "Outa the car, muthah****ah.
Hands on the hood!"

The good old days...

Frank

Well, I guess you weren't black. Did you have a confederate flag on
the back window?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On 17 Mar 2004 18:33:02 -0800, (Frank Maier) said:

Ahhh, yes. Driving through Mississippi in an expensive (foreign)
sportscar with long hair in the 60s... After pulling me over, their
stopping policy (I assume it was their policy because they used it on
me more than once) was to kneel behind their opened doors with their
guns drawn and hammers back and yell, "Outa the car, muthah****ah.
Hands on the hood!"

Funny. I spent two summers driving two different foreign cars (though not
sports cars--a Morris Minor and a Volvo PV444) with out-of-state plates
through most of rural Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina and northwest
Florida
in the 60s and was never stopped once.

However, I think Frank's imaginings are present day imaginings, not
ancient
history.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Peter Wiley wrote:
In article
, Dave
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:23:07 +1100, Peter Wiley
said:

Somehow it escapes
the right wing nutcases like CA that this violates US citizens'
right to be free from arbitrary search.

Sorry, Peter, but a U.S. Constitutional law scholar you're not.

How true. Perhaps you'd like to tell me that the police in the USA can
stop any/all vehicles on a public road and search them any time,
without any reason to suspect they're transporting something illegal?
That the police in the USA can enter & search any & all houses in case
there are illegal substances/activities occurring?

If so, you're worse off than I am where I live, which would only
mildly surprise me. Here the Govt has difficulty in trying to legally
search vehicles on a public highway for smuggled tobacco. Since the
tax rates got so high, tobacco smuggling has become very lucrative
which I also think is funny. Law of diminishing returns....

Whatever. Designer I know in the USA registered his personal vessel in
Panama just to avoid the unceasing and increasing USCG rules, plus he
wanted the right to travel peaceably without being sarched by the US
Navy. Guess a person who's a quintessential American individualist who
likes his pre-WOD freedoms of movement looks like some antisocial
individual these days. Your loss.

Peter Wiley

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote: Well, I guess you
weren't black. Did you have a confederate flag on
the back window?

"Dave" wrote
(Frank Maier) said:

Ahhh, yes. Driving through Mississippi in an expensive (foreign)
sportscar with long hair in the 60s... After pulling me over, their
stopping policy (I assume it was their policy because they used it on
me more than once) was to kneel behind their opened doors with their
guns drawn and hammers back and yell, "Outa the car, muthah****ah.
Hands on the hood!"

Funny. I spent two summers driving two different foreign cars (though not
sports cars--a Morris Minor and a Volvo PV444) with out-of-state plates
through most of rural Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina and northwest
Florida
in the 60s and was never stopped once.

However, I think Frank's imaginings are present day imaginings, not
ancient
history.

Or perhaps it's because they knew my license plate because I was
active with SNCC during that time. The scars I have from Louisiana and
Mississippi police dogs are not imaginary.

But I suppose you were down there to support your brothers in the
White Citizens' Council, asshole.

Frank

Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Only white, racist ones.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Sort of like Cheney, who had "other priorities" when it came to
military service. Now if we could only find out why Bushy failed
to show for his physical....

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On 19 Mar 2004 12:47:21 -0800, (Frank Maier) said:

But I suppose you were down there to support your brothers in the
White Citizens' Council, asshole.

You suppose incorrectly (so what else is new?). I was down there earning
the
money to pay my college tuition.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

what about the white unracist ones.



"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Only white, racist ones.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

They don't get paid.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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what about the white unracist ones.



"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Only white, racist ones.

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Dave explained: I was down there earning the
money to pay my college tuition.

I didn't know they paid chain gang members back then....

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Which one?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:50:56 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Now if we could only find out why Bushy failed
to show for his physical....

Could you tell us again what you were doing during the war, Jonathan?


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27