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Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:24 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Ghetto cruiser is better than a crapola hunter.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:52:14 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Well, you have a point. I wouldn't consider my Cal 20 a rich sailor's
boat. Do you?



"Ghetto cruiser," is more correct.




Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.




Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:25 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
I suggest a bill of sale. But, you're unwilling, apparently.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Whatever you think appropriate. I'm sure we'll all have a comment.


But what do you suggest?

Jim




Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:25 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Yep, cretin seems to fit the bill.

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Now that's a bit strong. I would say, "You're a stupid fool."
We don't want to insult morons.


Perhaps 'cretin' would be more appropriate - I hear they're dumber than
morons.


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Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:26 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
That it doesn't have a double hull and that MacBoy is
a cretin.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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about what?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Are you sure??

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Jim Cate" wrote


right. And a Mac 26 M does NOT have a double hull.


Maybe.

Stop acting like an obnoxious little prick. There's no maybe about it,

no
probably, or possibly, or almost. Listen up dickweed, the MAC 26 IS

****N
O T**** DOUBLE HULLED!






And what if it were penetrated where the sink drain through hull

wasn't?


Man the pumps and patch the breech PDQ.

Scotty







Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:27 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
I think you're right. Even Horass doesn't claim his hunter has
a double hull.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Jim The ASSHOLE Cate" jim the asshole wrote


In other words, the Mac includes an additional liner in the hull



it's a frickin ballast tank you asshole!



It's a ballast tank that has an upper wall that serves to prevent water
from flowing from the ballast chamber to the interior of the cabin.


right! You're finaly catching on.


In other words, a second hull.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're dumber than Horvath!!!!!!!!!





Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:28 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
What about unexpected weather??

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


The plan is to reef the working jib before going offshore.




you're going to reef a working jib on a Mac26? he he heeeee OK.


If heavy weather is predicted, I'll substitute a storm jib. Otherwise,
however, I'll reef the working jib and main before going offshore. And
if winds build higher, reef it again.




1. What sort of handling do you expect from the 26M in a 40kt wind?

The boat should be fairly stable in 40Kt winds if sufficiently reefed.




and by ''sufficiently reefed'' you mean tied down to the trailer, right?




But ultimately, Jim are the one
who demonstrated how stupid Jim really are.












Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:28 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
What about if it's not predicted???

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Wally wrote:

Jim Cate wrote:


The plan is to reef the working jib before going offshore. Or, if the
winds may be severe, to hank on a storm jib in place of the working
jib.



How do you hank a storm jib on when there's a roller furling mech in the
way? Does it have a second forestay for the purpose?



If heavy weather is predicted, a storm jib would be hanked on the
forestay. The roller furling mechanism is removed first.



Depends on the degree of reef in the main and furling of the jib.



Is that roller furling or roller reefing on the jib?


Roller furling.


Nope. You, again, have it bass ass backwards.



Stop talking crap - 70 knots is a hurricane and 100 miles offshore isn't
coastal cruising. The 26M is a beginner's boat and isn't built for such
conditions.


After I sail several times in 70 knots, I'll be able to give you a more
comprehensive description of the boat's sailing characteristics under
such conditions.



Of course, everyone recognized that you thought you were throwing me a
"gotcha." You intended to trip me up. But ultimately, YOU are the one
who demonstrated how stupid you really are.



I freely admit that I am a sweet, innocent, fresh-faced n00b. Unlike

you, I
don't come in here spouting irrational, badly-argued garbage while

making a
bunch of ridiculous claims.

You're a troll, or a moron, or a moronic troll, or a trolling moron.

Pick
one.


Sure think Wally. Have a nice evening. Are you going sailing this
weekend? Or do you just enjoy spending your spare time sneering at
others who do?

Jim




Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:29 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
No. Even iguana boy is smarter.

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In my opinion, you're stupid, a liar, and an asshole.


He's probably an iguana smuggler, to boot...


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Jonathan Ganz April 13th 04 06:30 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Absolutely right. I was being repetitive and boring. I'm sorry.

You're a cretin. Is that better?

To which problem do you refer?

I think dolfphin are wiser than otters.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In my opinion, you're stupid, a liar, and an asshole.


Aren't you getting somehat repetitive, Johnny? Why waste time posting
notes like that one over and over again? We all know you have a problem.
(Oterwise you wouldn't stick around.)

Jim





Wally April 13th 04 10:22 AM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Jim Cate wrote:

You're a troll, or a moron, or a moronic troll, or a trolling moron.
Pick one.


Sure think Wally.


It certainly is a "sure think", Jim "The Deafer" Cate. I am very sure in
what I'm thinking regarding your purpose in posting your Mac-loving garbage
(see above).


Have a nice evening. Are you going sailing this
weekend? Or do you just enjoy spending your spare time sneering at
others who do?


If you weren't such a sad asshole, posting the endless stream of pro-Mac
crap that you do, you might have time to read one or two other threads.


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