MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Daughter.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Jimbo has a son?

"Veridican" veridican Cate @aol.com wrote...
You can sail the Mac 75 miles off shore. A guy went around the world in
a
23
foot boat (see the movie The Dove). You can sail any boat 75 miles off
shore.

But everyone wants to act like one boat is better in a storm than
another
boat.
BS. If I were 75 miles off shore and got into a squall in a Mac, like I
would
with any damn boat, I'd lower the sails and run with it. Or I'd roll out
just a
little jib and try to keep head to wind.

I mean, you're not really going to ask me to believe that a Valient 40
is
better off in 30 ft breaking waves than a Mac are you?

Any 26 ft boat should sail the coast line (5-10 miles off shore), not
cross the
ocean. But if you don't get hit by a storm, it really doesn't matter,
does
it?

The Veridican

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I'm not a big fan of hunters, but I am a big fan of people who actually
go sailing.

You're a fan of Horvath????



Regards


Donal
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MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

He doesn't sail. He wins fags. I mean flags.

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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I'm not a big fan of hunters, but I am a big fan of people who actually
go sailing.

You're a fan of Horvath????



Regards


Donal
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MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


right. And a Mac 26 M does NOT have a double hull.


Maybe.


Stop acting like an obnoxious little prick. There's no maybe about it, no
probably, or possibly, or almost. Listen up dickweed, the MAC 26 IS ****N
O T**** DOUBLE HULLED!


If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......

Jim





And what if it were penetrated where the sink drain through hull wasn't?



Man the pumps and patch the breech PDQ.

Scotty

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy,

Actually, if you had said 100 miles inland, I might have agreed with you.

No. You're not a sailor because you have no idea how to sail. You
think a motor boat with a sail on it is a sailboat. You claim a great
deal of knowledge for someone who just plunked down a bunch of
money for a piece of junk.

We await your unlikely return from the ocean.

Yes, there are several people on this ng who have a greater chance
of even wanting to sail offshore. In fact, I could recommend it to
myself, if I wanted to do that again. Maybe I will someday. At the
moment, I'm only interested in bay and minor coastal sailing.


You seem to be loosing it, Johathan, for everyone to see. - Get a grip
on yourself.

And if what you say were true, that I'm going to perish at sea if I sail
the 26M offshore, then you will soon be rid of me, after which you won't
have to read or respond to any of my notes. - That ought to make you
happy, but instead, you're obviously so stressed out over this
discussion that you can't let it go.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jeff Morris wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

You're still solving problems that don't exist. This is only important on a

mac

where the hull it too thin given the speed it can attain (if you empty the
ballast, leave the mast and sails at the dock, carry one gallon of fuel, and
singlehand).

And, you have to be luck enough to hit something in the middle, not on the

side

of the boat. What are you going to do when you see a log? Aim for it so

you

hit dead on, rather than a glancing blow?



Obviously, the problem would arise when you DIDN'T see a partially
submerged log, not when you see one in time to avoid it.



You keep claiming it's a safety factor if you hit it just right. What it you
see a log, try to avoid it, but hit it on the side? Are you going to give
your grandkids life jackets that work half the time?


In that unlikely event, the boat wouldn't sail very well, but because of
the internal flotation, it would stay afloat. -

And since I have been willing to answer your questions, how about you
answering one of mine? - What would happen to YOUR boat if you hit a
log with sufficient force to penetrate your hull? Would YOUR boat stay
afloat, or would your keel quickly pull the boat down to the bottom?

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...........

Jim


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim The ASSHOLE Cate" jim the asshole wrote


In other words, the Mac includes an additional liner in the hull



it's a frickin ballast tank you asshole!


It's a ballast tank that has an upper wall that serves to prevent water
from flowing from the ballast chamber to the interior of the cabin.


right! You're finaly catching on.



In other words, a second hull.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're dumber than Horvath!!!!!!!!!

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Scott Vernon wrote:

could you please explain to me how you're going to reef the Macs' working
jib? I'd like to know in case I ever own one.

The roller furler will control the working jib, and the jib would be let
out only partially. If the predicted weather is too severe for the
working jib, I would substitute a storm jib early on.

Scotty

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:


"Jim Cate" wrote


The plan is to reef the working jib before going offshore.



you're going to reef a working jib on a Mac26? he he heeeee OK.


If heavy weather is predicted, I'll substitute a storm jib. Otherwise,
however, I'll reef the working jib and main before going offshore. And
if winds build higher, reef it again.




1. What sort of handling do you expect from the 26M in a 40kt wind?

The boat should be fairly stable in 40Kt winds if sufficiently reefed.



and by ''sufficiently reefed'' you mean tied down to the trailer, right?





But ultimately, Jim are the one
who demonstrated how stupid Jim really are.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

What about unexpected weather??

In that case, I would plan to take the sails down and deploy a sea
anchor. Or, I may perish at sea, in which case you would no longer
have the pleasure of responding to my notes on this discussion string.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Even a duck sails better than a Mac26Mx.

"Jim Quack" jim is a quack @ducks.not quacked....


If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......

Jimbo