MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Right.. I lost. You won... that piece of crap. BTW, who is PC and what is
Practial Saior?

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You're rather typical of Mac owners... stupid.

As I thought, you didn't want to answer that one. In other words, you
lost that one, didn't you Ganz. And as usual, you aren't willing to
admit it.

Hun

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

You're full of it. The Valient has a host of great sailing
and construction pluses. The Mac has NONE of these.
The Mac is garbage, which isn't fit to sink in the wake
of a Valient, even though it likely would at the very
first opportunity.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Yes. You don't have anything substantive to say.

I agree also.

I agree

The other limitation being that it appeals to the uniformed
or generally stupid. You WIN!

One of the more significant advantages of the MacGregor 26M is the fact
that it addresses one of the most basic human limitations, limited time.

Yeah, on a trailer.

Also, although 99% of the displacement sailboats in our area seldom
leave the bay, the Mac permits sailing in an entirely different part of
the the State, several hundred miles away, because it can be
conveniently trailered to the desired area. - Again, time limitations
are overcome, and a variety of new sailing areas are made conveniently
available.

I sail at least 5 times every two weeks. I don't know what you claim
or what you think when your meds wear off.

"I went sailing yesterday and really enjoyed it, and did lots of
interesting things...."

Instead of:

You got that right. It sinks quickly and the idiots feel they have to
get another one. That's definitely good for the economy.

Whether it is more important to point higher or sail more often and more
conveniently and with greater variety is, of course, a personal
judgment. But there can be no question that the Mac has significant
advantages over most displacement boats, for most users. Clearly,
obviously, certainly, and without question, except to those whose minds
are closed.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Is it possible to sail one everyday... I doubt they would
last for more than a week of the rough treatment.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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sane people would rather sail a Valiant 40 once a month than a MacGregor
26Mx every day.

Scotty


"Jimbo Mac" wrote ...
seldom sail at all. I would rather be able to say:

"I went sailing yesterday and really enjoyed it, and did lots of
interesting things...."

Instead of:

"Well I didn't have time to go sailing this weekend, but I COULD
HAVE, and if I did have the time, I COULD HAVE sailed faster and
pointed higher than you."


Whether it is more important to point higher or sail more often and more
conveniently and with greater variety is, of course, a personal
judgment. But there can be no question that the Mac has significant
advantages over most displacement boats, for most users. Clearly,
obviously, certainly, and without question, except to those whose minds
are closed.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Yeah, and all of them carried over to the M. More garbage, slightly
different look. You're just a liar or incredibly stupid. Who types for
you, your mommy?

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

More likely it'll be never, since you're not a sailor... probably
never sailed in your life.

I think you're the one who's stressed. You bought that piece
of garbage without knowing what you're getting into.

Actually, no. I had sailed various Macs and followed their development
over the years as different models were introduced. However, there were
several features on the Mac 26x that I didn't like. The the 26M has
corrected them, for the first time.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

You wanna buy a bridge?

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Roger MacGregor wrote:

Mr Cate, if you will read the fine brochure put out by my writers you
will see that we do not recommend taking a Mac 26 M Powersailer out to
'blue water'. For your own safety DO NOT sail or motor a Mac 26 M
powersailer more than 3 miles offshore. You have been warned, in front
of many witnesses. Any injuries, deaths, or losses due to a Mac 26 M
Powersailer past the 3 mile limit will be your own damn fault. We ARE
NOT responsible for your boat!

Roger MacGregor

In that case, you need to correct those on your staff who respond to
inquiries from those of us who call and request information about your
boats. When I have asked them if the boat is suitable for coastal
cruising in blue water, they have told me that this is exactly what it's
designed for. They have assured me that it is a great boat in which to
sail or motor out to Catalina island (25 miles out). And the water
between the California coast and Catalina island is certainly blue. My
own dealer has told me that the boat is perfectly suitable for sailing
offshore, and the he wouldn't hesitate to take it offshore. Also, I
have made it clear to him several times that that's what I intend to do.
Another dealer I spoke with said the same thing and told me that he
had sailed Macs offshore many times, sailed to the Bahamas 12 times, and
would not hesitate to do it again. I also note that there is absolutely
NOTHING in your literature (if you are really Roger MacGregor, that is)
warning your customers not to take their boats more than three miles
offshore.

In other words, you are either a troll, or if not, MacGregor has some
serious legal liability issues.

Jim





"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:


I don't usually agree with you, but on this we're on the
same page.


John, if you're your really that stressed out, remember that you don't
have to read any of my notes at all if you don't want to. - Just press
your down arrow and skip right on by them. - It may be several weeks
before I can get out to the blue water on my Mac, and by skipping by my
notes, you can get pretty much the same effect as you might if I were
lost at sea.



Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

When you have an iq as low as he does, I'm not astonished by this.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Jim Cate" wrote
what
good does speed and pointing ability do for them?

he just doesn't get it.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:33:32 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Right.. I lost. You won... that piece of crap. BTW, who is PC and what is
Practial Saior?


Not you, Jon-boy.






Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:52:07 +0100, "Wally"
wrote this crap:

Jim Cate wrote:

However, there
were several features on the Mac 26x that I didn't like.

What things on the 26x didn't you like?


Lack of storage for beer and rum.





Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:46:01 -0700, "Jon-boy Ganz"
wrote this crap:

When you have an iq as low as he does, I'm not astonished by this.


Maybe when you grow up, you'll have an IQ just as high, Jon-boy.






Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:24:49 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

sane people would rather sail a Valiant 40 once a month than a MacGregor
26Mx every day.


Sane people would rather spend a month in jail, than sail a MacGregor
for one day.




Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.