MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Damn.. oh well.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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Now look at what you've done, Jon...you've unearthed Ed Gordon from
whatever
cave he's been dweklling in these past few years....

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MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Whatever you think appropriate. I'm sure we'll all have a comment.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy,

What I'm saying is that "there aren't many owners of Macs
that would open themselves up to the kind of ridicule that
you've done. Even they are smarter than you, because they've
figured out Macs are crap and don't wish to embarrass themselves
any further in public.

So MacBoy.. when are you going to prove you didn't buy your
boat prior to posting about buying it?


What form of "proof" would satisfy you, Johnny? I don't think my dealer
would appreciate my posting a copy of the order form, but perhaps some
other form of evidence would do the same thing.

Ji

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Now that's a bit strong. I would say, "You're a stupid fool."
We don't want to insult morons.

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Jim Cate wrote:

In any such decision, one likes to gather as much substantive
information possible for consideration before making a decision. In
this case, I got little if any substantive information from this ng.
This was a significant clue. - It told me that much of the "Mac
Bashers" really didn't have any direct knowledge of the 26M, and that
most of the Mac Bashing had no basis in fact. It further told me that
many on this ng who commented on the Macs really didn't know what the
hell they were talking about.

You are a moron.



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MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote


The plan is to reef the working jib before going offshore.


you're going to reef a working jib on a Mac26? he he heeeee OK.





1. What sort of handling do you expect from the 26M in a 40kt wind?

The boat should be fairly stable in 40Kt winds if sufficiently reefed.


and by ''sufficiently reefed'' you mean tied down to the trailer, right?




But ultimately, Jim are the one
who demonstrated how stupid Jim really are.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Are you sure??

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Jim Cate" wrote


right. And a Mac 26 M does NOT have a double hull.


Maybe.

Stop acting like an obnoxious little prick. There's no maybe about it, no
probably, or possibly, or almost. Listen up dickweed, the MAC 26 IS
****N
O T**** DOUBLE HULLED!






And what if it were penetrated where the sink drain through hull wasn't?


Man the pumps and patch the breech PDQ.

Scotty

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

MacBoy,

Actually, if you had said 100 miles inland, I might have agreed with you.

No. You're not a sailor because you have no idea how to sail. You
think a motor boat with a sail on it is a sailboat. You claim a great
deal of knowledge for someone who just plunked down a bunch of
money for a piece of junk.

We await your unlikely return from the ocean.

Yes, there are several people on this ng who have a greater chance
of even wanting to sail offshore. In fact, I could recommend it to
myself, if I wanted to do that again. Maybe I will someday. At the
moment, I'm only interested in bay and minor coastal sailing.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy, you say you would want to be prepared, but you would plan on
motoring or sailing back from where? 500 miles off the coast?


Nope. Not more than 100 miles offshore.

Actually,
the truth is that you would not survive either with or without your Mac,
since you're clearly not much of sailor, having bought a Mac.


What a ridiculous, asinine statement. - I'm not a sailor, since I bought
a Mac. - The bottom line, Jonathan, is that you have no understanding
whatsoever of the most basic aspects of logic, rationality, and
intellectual honesty. - In other words, you aren't willing to tell the
truth.


But, since
you made the statement you did about the Mac surviving such an
experience,
it's again obvious that you know nothing of boats. However, feel free to
prove us all wrong. I suggest you leave immediately. Give us a full
report
including pictures should you happen to return. I'm sure we'll all then
rush out and buy one.

I'll be happy to provide detailed reports of my offshore trips in the
Mac26M.

I'm not planning on buying a Satori, since I already have a quite a nice
boat, which while off-shore capable, is not set up for it. Further, I
have
no desire to do any extended off-shore trips, since where I sail is fun
and challenging, and I have local responsibilities.

Sure Johnathan. But would you recommend the Satori to anyone else on
this ng???


Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jim Cate wrote:

The plan is to reef the working jib before going offshore. Or, if the
winds may be severe, to hank on a storm jib in place of the working
jib.

How do you hank a storm jib on when there's a roller furling mech in the
way? Does it have a second forestay for the purpose?


Depends on the degree of reef in the main and furling of the jib.

Is that roller furling or roller reefing on the jib?


Nope. You, again, have it bass ass backwards.

Stop talking crap - 70 knots is a hurricane and 100 miles offshore isn't
coastal cruising. The 26M is a beginner's boat and isn't built for such
conditions.


Of course, everyone recognized that you thought you were throwing me a
"gotcha." You intended to trip me up. But ultimately, YOU are the one
who demonstrated how stupid you really are.

I freely admit that I am a sweet, innocent, fresh-faced n00b. Unlike you, I
don't come in here spouting irrational, badly-argued garbage while making a
bunch of ridiculous claims.

You're a troll, or a moron, or a moronic troll, or a trolling moron. Pick
one.


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MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I guess you will be having a nice weekend asshole... yech.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:

jimbo, you are full of ****.


Thanks for your note, Scott. Have a nice evening.

Jim



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:


"Jim Cate" wrote


are you under the impression that a mac26 is double hulled?

.

Yes it is.


NO, it's NOT


Scott, whether or not you call it double hulled, IT DOES INCLUDE A
SECOND wall above its lowermost hull that SERVES THE PURPOSE of keeping
water out of the cabin if the lower hull is compromised. And although
the second wall doesn't extend over all the hull, IT DOES extend over
the lowermost portion thereof, and it does extend for around 2/3rd. the
length of the boat. - If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck,
and serves the same purpose as a second hull......it doesn't make much
difference whether you call it a double hull or not.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

about what?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Are you sure??

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Jim Cate" wrote


right. And a Mac 26 M does NOT have a double hull.


Maybe.

Stop acting like an obnoxious little prick. There's no maybe about it,
no
probably, or possibly, or almost. Listen up dickweed, the MAC 26 IS
****N
O T**** DOUBLE HULLED!






And what if it were penetrated where the sink drain through hull
wasn't?


Man the pumps and patch the breech PDQ.

Scotty

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

See, now this is what happens when you try to defend an asshole.
You ASSUMED that I was saying you were more than moderately
stupid.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

And, he's not moderately stupid either.

Have a nice evening, Johny.

Jim