MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Actually, you're an idiot MacBoy.

What does that comment add to the discussion, Johnny? It only serves to
remind everyone that you are getting more and more stressed out, less
and less under control, and totally incapable adding anything of
substance to the discussion. You apparently have no self-respect whatsoever.

Get a grip on yourself, John. (Also, have you thought further about my
suggestion that you could benefit from some professional help?)

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jeff Morris wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

Your boat is an unusual design.


No, it a pretty standard design for a crusing catamaran.

As I said, your boat is an unusual design. Only a smallpercentge of
cruising sailboats are cats.



Look around, Jim. Cats may be a minority, but many thousands have been built.
Prout built 5000, and possibly has had more circumnavigations than Valiant; the
French have built even more. Certainly, a lot more money is spent on cruising
cats than tralorable sailboats with 50 hp engines.



I'll certainly admit that they cost more than what I'm spending on the Mac.

I don't question that they are fast, roomy, and exciting boats. I was
only pointing out that your flotation system was not usually found on
the great majority of ocean sailing boats.


Jim




BTW, you once

mentioned the possibility for spending over $50K for this boat.

Its far less than that even fully equipped with 50 hp motor, roller
reefing, lines led aft, GPS chart plotter, auto steering, vhf, radar, etc.


I didn't mean this particular boat. I meant you implied you were willing to
spend more when you were searching.


For that money,

you could have bought a used Gemini 30 or maybe a F27. Shallow draft, speed
under power and sail, a LOT more fun.

Lots of used boats here at reasonable prices, but all of them had
problems.


Sounds like you didn't look at many boats.




Not many on his ng would float after a
collision. - In most of them, the lead keel would quickly drag the boat
down to the bottom.


Most of the boats owned by this group would not be holed by a collision. In
fact, I've seen a variety of "booboos" but I can't remember one now that put

a

boat at serious risk of sinking. (I'm sure one will come to mind.)

However,

I've seen a few that if the target had been a Mac, it would have been

chopped in

half.

In that unlikely event, the Mac would still float.


Maybe, but in how many pieces? And how far would you grandchildren be
scattered? Remember, drownings don't happen from sinking (according to the
statistics), the happen from capsizing and falling off of unstable boats. You
keep solving the problems that don't exist.


...

You seem to be very concerned with 30 foot breaking waves.

Not really.

You need

professional help, not a boat.

Actually, I rather thing that anyone who DOESN'T take such weather
conditions seriously, and prepare for them, is the one who needs
professional help.


Oh, yes, Jim, you're prepared all right!

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

Scott Vernon wrote:

Jim, you are the funniest thing to hit this NG for a long time. Thanks
for
the laughs.


In other words, you can't come up with a substantve response to my note.
Is that what you're trying to tell us, Scott?

Not very humorous. C'mon, try harder.

SV

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote


Whatever floats your boat, Scotty.

water

I prefer to sail a MacGregor,

You're not sane


get out on the water more frequently,

you'll love stepping and unstepping the mast, re-rigging & de-rigging,
launching, etc., etc., each time.



insurance, financing, bottom treatments, engine repairs, rigging
repairs, electronics, sail replacements, etc.


No insurance on your Mac? No bottom paint? That 50 hp WILL need maitnance.
No rigging, electronics, or sails on your macM?????



Ever hear about "BOTH AND" instead of "EITHER OR," Scotty?


No, ever heard about ''IF ONLY'' , jimmy?

SV

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote

Obviously, this is a small boat, and it would be foolhardy to sail


That's what we've been trying to tell you.


in potentially severe conditions

it's always potentially severe conditions, you lubber.

SV

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote

..The boat had a canoe stern which enhanced its speed and was a
safety factor in the event of large following seas.

jimmy, stick to one troll at a time, please.



For most sailors who work for a living, the Mac addresses the
issue of time, and the limited amount each of us has, far more
intelligently than the Valiant.


BwaaaaaHaahaha Oh yeah that was a good one!!!!!!!!!!

SV

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

check the headers and then do a Google. Roger has posted here before.

SV


"Jim Cate" wrote

Scott, you obviously don't get it. The point in this particular exchange
isn't whether the boat is suitable for blue water sailing, it's whether
the note purportedly posted by Roger MacGregor was a farce. (Which it
obviously was.)

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote

When I have asked them if the boat is suitable for coastal
cruising in blue water, they have told me that this is exactly what it's
designed for.


and you believed them??????

My response pointed out that MacGregor reps and
MacGregor dealers are promoting the boat as a coastal cruiser capable of
going off-shore,

and you believe them??????

___yes

___no

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:48:26 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:

26M has provides access to the jib through the hatch located near the
bow, in which you can stand or sit on the V-berth and reach the jib
through the hatch. It gives slightly better footing than trying to walk
forward topside.


Opening the forward hatch in heavy seas is a no-no for the obvious
reasons.

BB

You better explain why this is, I don't think "jim" understands the concept
of waves and where they might end up.
John Cairns

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jim Cate wrote:

... Or were you hoping to get another answer.

What sort of 'other answer' do you think I was hoping for?


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