Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

What Port did you duck into?

OT

Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to 90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

What are lifelines for?

A hand hold to get on the boat, A place to grab to bring the boat closer
to the dock, something to hold onto when you're rail meat. A place to
tie off sheets when the furler is furled, a place to tie off the boom
tent, a back rest when a foam roll is added, a tie off for fenders, a
cloth line, a hand hold when going forward from the cockpit and coming
back, a place to rig splash guards, a place to hang drink holder for
beer cans, a barracade to keep from stepping off the boat by accident,
etc

They might even keep you from going in the drink if you lose your
balance. they might even help you maintain yourself on the high side
when heeling (?)

They are neat to have but aren't really necessary.

I like mine!

Ole Thom

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Hold on hoss... I wouldn't recommend using them for either a hand hold
or for bring the boat closer. Too easy to damage them. Nor would I use
them for tying off any sheet that is under load, nor would I use them for
a backrest or fenders. (For fenders, if they're not positioned properly,
they could pull the lifelines right off if they get caught, e.g., like when
one
ties up on a non-floating dock and the tide changes.)

A hand hold is fine combined with proper weight distribution and balance.
Splash guards are fine as well as netting. Drink holders are fine, but I
believe
they make some that fit over a winch, and to keep from stepping off by
accident seems to be the best use.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
What are lifelines for?

A hand hold to get on the boat, A place to grab to bring the boat closer
to the dock, something to hold onto when you're rail meat. A place to
tie off sheets when the furler is furled, a place to tie off the boom
tent, a back rest when a foam roll is added, a tie off for fenders, a
cloth line, a hand hold when going forward from the cockpit and coming
back, a place to rig splash guards, a place to hang drink holder for
beer cans, a barracade to keep from stepping off the boat by accident,
etc

They might even keep you from going in the drink if you lose your
balance. they might even help you maintain yourself on the high side
when heeling (?)

They are neat to have but aren't really necessary.

I like mine!

Ole Thom

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

My compass points north (pretty much). So if my heading has changed
and the compass is still pointing pretty much north, then it should be
pretty obvious (unless one is blind) not to notice the difference.

Excuse me... I meant to type heading not course.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the
wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from
190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

The little needle point to mostly north. It will be in a different position
relative to the bow of the boat if you change course. I know this is
difficult for you to grasp. Keep flailing away. BTW, I meant if
one's heading changes.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190*
to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Jax,

You were west of the Gulf stream following the 100 fathom mark and you
were about 100 miles Off Shore

Where were you heading for going that far off shore heading South?

Ole Thom