You're the one maintaining that they're essential or key gear. They're not.
I don't have
any on my boat.


Jonathan, don't you own a Cal 20? Few boats that small have life lines.

RB

Sorry, but how does one tell in advance on someone else's boat whether
or not a lifeline is "proper"?

I'm not talking about risks associated with "someone else's boat." Lots of
people take risks and let their gear decay.
I'm talking about the lifelines on my last two boats, which were/are sound.

RB

One
should NEVER rely on a piece of safety equipment vs. common sense.


This is not the debate at hand. You said "YOU SHOULD NOT RELY ON LIFE LINES."
Period.
Now you've added some odd comment about common sense. We're talking gear and
only gear. Let's assume Rain Man isn't aboard.

RB

As do most real sailors. But, I think Dufus made a typo.

Exactly. Every *real* sailor understood him.

A typo? He said LIFELINES, not JALIFELINES. The former is a error, the latter a
typo.

RB

Bottom line, it is a serious mistake to rely
on lifelines to keep you on a sailboat, even in moderate conditions. If
lifelines were an important safety feature there wouldn't be such a thing as
jacklines.

By that measure, if jacklines were an important safety feature there wouldn't
be such a think as lifelines...or flare guns for that matter.
All safety gear works together and ALL of it is VERY important.

RB

And, I'm saying that relying on lifelines is foolhardy. One should rely
on oneself. That includes making sure the lifelines are in proper order.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Sorry, but how does one tell in advance on someone else's boat whether
or not a lifeline is "proper"?

I'm not talking about risks associated with "someone else's boat." Lots of
people take risks and let their gear decay.
I'm talking about the lifelines on my last two boats, which were/are
sound.

RB

You should NOT. We're talking about gear. Don't rely on them.
As you said, the stanchion can fail. That's part of the lifeline system.
Don't rely on them.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
One
should NEVER rely on a piece of safety equipment vs. common sense.


This is not the debate at hand. You said "YOU SHOULD NOT RELY ON LIFE
LINES."
Period.
Now you've added some odd comment about common sense. We're talking gear
and
only gear. Let's assume Rain Man isn't aboard.

RB

Jacklines have nothing to do with lifelines. You can have one without
the other. Jacklines are an essential piece of equipment for sailing
offshore.
One would be foolhardy not to have them available.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bottom line, it is a serious mistake to rely
on lifelines to keep you on a sailboat, even in moderate conditions. If
lifelines were an important safety feature there wouldn't be such a thing
as
jacklines.

By that measure, if jacklines were an important safety feature there
wouldn't
be such a think as lifelines...or flare guns for that matter.
All safety gear works together and ALL of it is VERY important.

RB

So, I guess they're not so essential. Cal 20s have crossed oceans... not
that I
would recommend it.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You're the one maintaining that they're essential or key gear. They're
not.
I don't have
any on my boat.


Jonathan, don't you own a Cal 20? Few boats that small have life lines.

RB

Ok. Let's now debate typos, since you're obviously not up to the task
of debating lifelines or jackellines.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
As do most real sailors. But, I think Dufus made a typo.

Exactly. Every *real* sailor understood him.

A typo? He said LIFELINES, not JALIFELINES. The former is a error, the
latter a
typo.

RB