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The_navigator© wrote in message ...
Worried about the skin thickness? No more curious than anything. Starting to think about having the boat sandblasted and met-coated some day. I figure I have 4-5 hundred pounds of paint on the boat. Original it was black when it was based in the North Sea, Than it was gray, than blue now Red with yellow trim. Underneath the original black is 5 mil coat of Red Lead, the reason Ive never stripped her. How many chips and scratches do you have in your fragile gel-coat? Forgotten to replace all those anodes I replaced them 3 years ago at last haul out, and they have barely been affected, I dive the boat every quarter and check them out . How about your plastic boat, How many androids do you have?. I have six- 2-15 pound tear shaped by the bow on the keel, 2 - 20lb bricks on the each side of the stern area of the keel and two tear shaped 5 pounders on the rudder. again? Only the second time in 10 years. Have you checked out to see how many osomosis blisters your boat has? Did you pop them all, or just let em keep swelling up like the zits on your face? Joe MSV RedCloud Free of SOFT SPOTS. Cheers MC Joe wrote: "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat. Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust. S.Simon Perhaps that is true on any steel hull that you would maintain. However Redcloud has an average of approx. 20 mils of paint. 13 mils on the cabins 27 mils on the decks and 23 mils on the hulls. Applied by a master steel preservation expert.....me. I measured it just yesterday with my handy dandy Mikrotest Magnetic Gage made in Germany by Elektrophysik-Koln. Have you gauged the size of those blisters on your flimsy hull lately? Joe MSV RedCloud "Joe" wrote in message om... (Bobsprit) wrote in message ... What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on the used market? Capt RB I would build a steel hull like this one: http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single hand, yet large enough to be comfortable. You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts. Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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Real nice - 500 pounds of paint and all those zincs to
bother with. Ya gotta just love steel. Probably has a nice layer of rust working under all that cosmetic paint. I use NO zincs on my GRP boat and it has NO blisters. It probably has about ten pounds of Dupont Imron paint on the topsides. Bwahahahahahaha! S.Simon - very few chips and scratches because I stay far away from docks. "Joe" wrote in message om... The_navigator© wrote in message ... Worried about the skin thickness? No more curious than anything. Starting to think about having the boat sandblasted and met-coated some day. I figure I have 4-5 hundred pounds of paint on the boat. Original it was black when it was based in the North Sea, Than it was gray, than blue now Red with yellow trim. Underneath the original black is 5 mil coat of Red Lead, the reason Ive never stripped her. How many chips and scratches do you have in your fragile gel-coat? Forgotten to replace all those anodes I replaced them 3 years ago at last haul out, and they have barely been affected, I dive the boat every quarter and check them out . How about your plastic boat, How many androids do you have?. I have six- 2-15 pound tear shaped by the bow on the keel, 2 - 20lb bricks on the each side of the stern area of the keel and two tear shaped 5 pounders on the rudder. again? Only the second time in 10 years. Have you checked out to see how many osomosis blisters your boat has? Did you pop them all, or just let em keep swelling up like the zits on your face? Joe MSV RedCloud Free of SOFT SPOTS. Cheers MC Joe wrote: "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat. Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust. S.Simon Perhaps that is true on any steel hull that you would maintain. However Redcloud has an average of approx. 20 mils of paint. 13 mils on the cabins 27 mils on the decks and 23 mils on the hulls. Applied by a master steel preservation expert.....me. I measured it just yesterday with my handy dandy Mikrotest Magnetic Gage made in Germany by Elektrophysik-Koln. Have you gauged the size of those blisters on your flimsy hull lately? Joe MSV RedCloud "Joe" wrote in message om... (Bobsprit) wrote in message ... What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on the used market? Capt RB I would build a steel hull like this one: http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single hand, yet large enough to be comfortable. You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts. Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:49:37 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote: Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat. Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust. S.Simon I used to live aboard a steel boat.* As long as you keep up with the painting, it's no big deal. You can run one into things that will just give it a dent, where a fiberglass, wood, or (shudder) cement boat will hole. Steel is a wonderful material out of which to build a boat. I'm truly surprised that there are not more of them. There must be some kind of manufacturing challenge involved, but you have to wonder how Kaiser managed to turn out Liberty Ships at the rate of one a day were that true. *OK, it was a destroyer tender, and we had 800 crewmen maintaining her, but still. |
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"The_navigator©" wrote: Nice? Marvellous! Beautiful! Excellent! MC goes off mumbling... Well, I could have said all those things, but my opinion doesn't hold any merit, because I'm not a sailor. Don't be so stinkin' sensitive... :-) LP Lady Pilot wrote: You have a nice boat, Nav... |
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A window of that area in 1/4 lexan look woefully under strength. When a
big wave hits it will pop out. You need storm shutters... My cat's flip alol the time. They've never need a carne to right them as they do it themselves. Cheers MC Joe wrote: The_navigator© wrote in message ... Don't take her into the ocean. Those huge 'windows' won't make it. Cheers MC To late, RedCloud made it across the Atlantic 3 times, And thats when the windows were glass. Now they are 1/4 inch lexan. Dont take that dangerious Cat of yours to far from a crane. YOU WILL NEED IT WHEN YOU FLIP OVER. Joe Joe wrote: (Bobsprit) wrote in message ... What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on the used market? Capt RB I would build a steel hull like this one: http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single hand, yet large enough to be comfortable. You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts. Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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Joe wrote: The_navigator© wrote in message ... Worried about the skin thickness? No more curious than anything. Starting to think about having the boat sandblasted and met-coated some day. I figure I have 4-5 hundred pounds of paint on the boat. Original it was black when it was based in the North Sea, Than it was gray, than blue now Red with yellow trim. Underneath the original black is 5 mil coat of Red Lead, the reason Ive never stripped her. That'll make nice pock marks when she blisters and she will... How many chips and scratches do you have in your fragile gel-coat? Several but they only take 15 minutes to repair and polish out once a year. Forgotten to replace all those anodes I replaced them 3 years ago at last haul out, and they have barely been affected, I dive the boat every quarter and check them out . How about your plastic boat, How many androids do you have?. I have six- 2-15 pound tear shaped by the bow on the keel, 2 - 20lb bricks on the each side of the stern area of the keel and two tear shaped 5 pounders on the rudder. again? Only the second time in 10 years. Have you checked out to see how many osomosis blisters your boat has? Did you pop them all, or just let em keep swelling up like the zits on your face? No blisters on Ella and she's been in the water 16 years. If she doesn't have them now she never will as her resin is certainly in equilibrium. Of course she is a resin rich boat with vinyl ester... I hope you look forward to the major repaint coming your way to cover up the rust! How many dents in the hull do you have? Cheers MC |
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That may not be true. Glass boats bounce! You have to deflect the
laminate a huge distnce before it breaks. Cheers MC Pockets of Resistance wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:49:37 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote: Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat. Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust. S.Simon I used to live aboard a steel boat.* As long as you keep up with the painting, it's no big deal. You can run one into things that will just give it a dent, where a fiberglass, wood, or (shudder) cement boat will hole. Steel is a wonderful material out of which to build a boat. I'm truly surprised that there are not more of them. There must be some kind of manufacturing challenge involved, but you have to wonder how Kaiser managed to turn out Liberty Ships at the rate of one a day were that true. *OK, it was a destroyer tender, and we had 800 crewmen maintaining her, but still. |
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But he's sitting on a compost heap!
Cheers MC Capt. Mooron wrote: Yeah but Cappy has his own garden growing along the waterline. You know how relaxing it is to tend to your garden. CM |
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I was reading up on GRP the other day and found out
one startling fact: the vibration of diesel engines hastens the softening of the laminate. This isn't something I'm making up because I don't have a diesel. Somebody over at uk.rec.sailing posted a link to the ultimate blister site and I read it there. S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... That may not be true. Glass boats bounce! You have to deflect the laminate a huge distnce before it breaks. Cheers MC Pockets of Resistance wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:49:37 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote: Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat. Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust. S.Simon I used to live aboard a steel boat.* As long as you keep up with the painting, it's no big deal. You can run one into things that will just give it a dent, where a fiberglass, wood, or (shudder) cement boat will hole. Steel is a wonderful material out of which to build a boat. I'm truly surprised that there are not more of them. There must be some kind of manufacturing challenge involved, but you have to wonder how Kaiser managed to turn out Liberty Ships at the rate of one a day were that true. *OK, it was a destroyer tender, and we had 800 crewmen maintaining her, but still. |
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Dont take that dangerious Cat of yours to far from a crane. YOU WILL
NEED IT WHEN YOU FLIP OVER. Why are you calling Ella Vuela a cat? She's a monohull...I think you're = confusing people and their boats... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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