Mike,

She is a thing of beauty! Best of everything to you and your new vessel.

AND; "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom

He's just getting started - next he'll claim that his "fine bluewater vessel" is so
overloaded that his waterline is longer than yours.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Simpleton.... I can't believe you tried that lame ploy....

CM


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| That's with the 100% jib and is a great number for
| the Trades where she resides. If the winds should
| lighten up it is very easy to HANK ON a larger
| headsail to raise the SA/Disp ratio to levels well
| above what the heavy and slow Nordica carries.
|
|
|
| "SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
| It looks like my boat is superior in just about every way!!!
|
|
| Why would you post these numbers? It is worse in just about every way.
SAD of
| 14.24? Bwahahahahahahaha
|
|

OK, I realize you are pretty dumb so I'll explain it to you

Huh?


LOA Coronado 27 26.75

Nordica 30 29.49

27 feet is better than 30 feet because the bigger the boat
the more expensive is the upkeep and the equipment.


LWL Coronado 27 22

Nordica 30 25

Do the math. Divide the LWL by the LOA. The Coronado
is .815 while the Nordica is .833.
This tells you that the Coronado has shorter overhangs and
shorter overhangs are better because you get more boat
for your money and less hobby-horsing.


Beam Coronado 27 8.5

Nordica 30 9.77

Not much to say here - just a spec.

Displacement Coronado 27 6250

Nordica 30 10220

This shows that Nordica is a heavy and slow boat.


Sail Area Coronado 27 302

Nordica 30 502

This means the Nordica needs lots of sail to
move her heft along while the lighter
Coronado is easily driven


Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85

Nordica 30 1.8

This shows that the Coronado is a little less
likely to capsize than the Nordica.

Hull Speed Coronado 27 6.29

Nordica 30 6.7

For all practical purposes this shows the Coronado is
almost as fast as the Nordica and faster in lighter air.


Sail Area to Displacement Coronado 27 14.24

Nordica 30 17.06

This means the Coronado is so easily driven that she does
not need as much sail to reach hull speed. This results in
easier to handle sails and less expensive sails.


Displacement to LWL Coronado 27 262

Nordica 30 292

This shows the Nordica is a heavy sow of a vessel compared
to the Coronado.

LWL to Beam Coronado 27 2.59

Nordica 30 2.56

About the same stat and there's not much to say about
this ratio.

Motion Comfort Coronado 27 23.66

Nordica 30 28.57

This indicates that the Nordica is slower to roll and slower
to pitch as would be expected with a heavy tub of a boat.
It indicates that the Nordica wastes energy smashing through
the waves while the Coronado skims along more efficiently
above the waves.


Pounds/Inch Coronado 27 668

Nordica 30 873

This shows the Coronado is a mid-weight while the
Nordica is a heavyweight. It is the factor that most
allows the Coronado 27 to sprint ahead of the Nordica
in the puffs.

I hope this helped.



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Heh it wasn't me that got all excited at the mention of underage virgins
Cappy!

I think from the photos prove that Bob has no problem with finding women to
sail with.... you haven't shown photo one of a female on your boat?
[photshop wishes notwithstanding]

Before your mouth starts writing checks your boat hasn't a dream of
cashing.... check sail calc and see how the vessels compare. you haven't a
snowball's chance in hell of sailing against my superior boat.... even
considering your coastal cruiser as a possible challenge is as delusional as
the probability of you finding a woman you don't have to pay for ... in
advance and by the minute.

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Can't you think of anything but 'woodies'? You and
| Bobsprit need to get together for a date or something.
|
| Maybe he could even teach you how to sail and if not
| at least he could teach you how to purchase a decent
| boat - you know, something that gets out of its own way.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
|
| No wonder you can't carry on a relationship with a mature female.... let
| alone a conversation. I bet your problem is you can't pop a woody
anymore!
| Talk to Horvath... he seems to be in the same dilemma.
|
| The pair of you are Viagra candidates.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| | borrowed my friend's 4 year old daughter to swing the bottle to make
| sure]
| |
| | You mean little Chistie? Too bad. Her daddy is a pervert, don't you
know?
| |
| |
|
|
|
|





Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

It is superior -for anchoring.

Cheers MC

Oz1 wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:00:27 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:


It looks like my boat is superior in just about every way!!!


Huh?


LOA Coronado 27 26.75

Nordica 30 29.49

LWL Coronado 27 22

Nordica 30 25

Beam Coronado 27 8.5

Nordica 30 9.77

Displacement Coronado 27 6250

Nordica 30 10220

Sail Area Coronado 27 302

Nordica 30 502

Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85

Nordica 30 1.8

Hull Speed Coronado 27 6.29

Nordica 30 6.7

Sail Area to Displacement Coronado 27 14.24

Nordica 30 17.06

Displacement to LWL Coronado 27 262

Nordica 30 292

LWL to Beam Coronado 27 2.59

Nordica 30 2.56

Motion Comfort Coronado 27 23.66

Nordica 30 28.57

Pounds/Inch Coronado 27 668

Nordica 30 873


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

Heh it wasn't me that got all excited at the mention of underage virgins
Cappy!

I think from the photos prove that Bob has no problem with finding women to
sail with.... you haven't shown photo one of a female on your boat?
[photshop wishes notwithstanding]

Before your mouth starts writing checks your boat hasn't a dream of
cashing.... check sail calc and see how the vessels compare. you haven't a
snowball's chance in hell of sailing against my superior boat.... even
considering your coastal cruiser as a possible challenge is as delusional as
the probability of you finding a woman you don't have to pay for ... in
advance and by the minute.

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Can't you think of anything but 'woodies'? You and
| Bobsprit need to get together for a date or something.
|
| Maybe he could even teach you how to sail and if not
| at least he could teach you how to purchase a decent
| boat - you know, something that gets out of its own way.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
.. .
|
| No wonder you can't carry on a relationship with a mature female.... let
| alone a conversation. I bet your problem is you can't pop a woody
anymore!
| Talk to Horvath... he seems to be in the same dilemma.
|
| The pair of you are Viagra candidates.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| | borrowed my friend's 4 year old daughter to swing the bottle to make
| sure]
| |
| | You mean little Chistie? Too bad. Her daddy is a pervert, don't you
know?
| |
| |
|
|
|
|






Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Oh Good Grief......

Ha ha Ha Ha Ha.......

Just one point Cappy.... the cut-off for self righting momentum is 2.0....
the lower the number the better the chance of self righting.

CM



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
| Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85
|
| Nordica 30 1.8
|
| This shows that the Coronado is a little less
| likely to capsize than the Nordica.

Well, if your correcting, he also got the overhang thing wrong.

Oh Good Grief......

Ha ha Ha Ha Ha.......

Just one point Cappy.... the cut-off for self righting momentum is 2.0....
the lower the number the better the chance of self righting.

CM



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
| Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85
|
| Nordica 30 1.8
|
| This shows that the Coronado is a little less
| likely to capsize than the Nordica.

I was laughing so hard it took me all the way to the capsize ratio before my
tears cleared up enough to focus.

What's even funnier is that with my 3 foot bowsprit the overhangs are even
more than Cappy fiqured... ha Ha Ha

CM


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
| Well, if your correcting, he also got the overhang thing wrong.
|
| Oh Good Grief......
|
| Ha ha Ha Ha Ha.......
|
| Just one point Cappy.... the cut-off for self righting momentum is
2.0....
| the lower the number the better the chance of self righting.
|
| CM
|
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85
| |
| | Nordica 30 1.8
| |
| | This shows that the Coronado is a little less
| | likely to capsize than the Nordica.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

Five hundredths of a point - BIG DEAL.

I knew I'd not be able to slip that one by you but
note how the brilliant Oz was snookered.

But you forgot one important factor with respect
to self righting. When you have much more sail
area in the water and wet your boat will not self
right as easily as it would if you had less. Sails are
not considered in the above ration.

Therefore, since my boat has smaller sails it will
actually be better at self-righting than your boat.

So there. Blalallalalalalalalalal!


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Oh Good Grief......

Ha ha Ha Ha Ha.......

Just one point Cappy.... the cut-off for self righting momentum is 2.0....
the lower the number the better the chance of self righting.

CM



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
| Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85
|
| Nordica 30 1.8
|
| This shows that the Coronado is a little less
| likely to capsize than the Nordica.

The heck you say... I wax my sails.. they float... so there yourself! ;-D

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Five hundredths of a point - BIG DEAL.
|
| I knew I'd not be able to slip that one by you but
| note how the brilliant Oz was snookered.
|
| But you forgot one important factor with respect
| to self righting. When you have much more sail
| area in the water and wet your boat will not self
| right as easily as it would if you had less. Sails are
| not considered in the above ration.
|
| Therefore, since my boat has smaller sails it will
| actually be better at self-righting than your boat.
|
| So there. Blalallalalalalalalalal!
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| Oh Good Grief......
|
| Ha ha Ha Ha Ha.......
|
| Just one point Cappy.... the cut-off for self righting momentum is
2.0....
| the lower the number the better the chance of self righting.
|
| CM
|
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | Capsize Ratio Coronado 27 1.85
| |
| | Nordica 30 1.8
| |
| | This shows that the Coronado is a little less
| | likely to capsize than the Nordica.
|
|
|
|

Ha Ha ha ha...... You Salty Dog You!

CM

"Mike" wrote in message
...
| OOOOOOPS.
| Mike
|
| "Lady Sailor" wrote in message
| ...
| I smell jealousy, Neal. What's "too large" when she can be easily
| singlehanded by a woman? Oh, I forgot, you don't have the sailing or
| boathandling skills of the average woman.
| Your best pal,
| Mike
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| Nice-looking boat but too large to be practical.
|
|
| "Mike" wrote in message
| ...
| I know it's been covered, but I don't remember what the best way was
| to
| get
| old names off transoms. I have paint as well as vinyl stickies to
| deal
| with. Was it oven cleaner that was suggested? The new
documentation
| papers
| say I need to get the name and hailing port changed "before
operating
| the
| boat" which will be in a couple of weeks when I bring her up from
| Ensenada
| across the border into the US.
|
| By the way, in case you were wondering. It's OK getting paid to
sail
| that
| 50' catamaran up and down the coast all day, but I don't think I'd
| want
| to
| do it more than this one season. There's the distraction from all
the
| beautiful, scantily clad women (I have the best one waiting for me
at
| home),
| the irritation from the darn dolphins and sea lions always getting
in
| my
| way, and the people insulting me by offering $100 tips for two hour
| trips,
| among other things, that really kind of spoil it. But when I can
sail
| that
| great heavy barge 5 knots for hours, dead down wind, wing and wing,
| without
| the need for a whisker pole or preventer (main traveled clear over,
| and
| the
| natural spread of the genoa sheeting point doing the trick)
listening
| to
| some good reggae and soaking up the beauty of the Santa Barbara
| coastline,
| well, it's almost worth it.
| I really do miss the long hours cooped up in a tiny office staring
at
| a
| computer screen and having you all as the only entertainment
available
| in
| the midst of stress-filled days, honest!
| Thanks in advance for any ideas about getting the old name off my
| "new"
| boat.
| Life's a beach, then you go sailing,
|
| Mike
| www.sailinglinks.com
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