"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:32:25 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

However, left to only the free market, healthcare
costs would go up. This has already happened, so it's not really in
dispute.

Nonsense. A market in which the guvmint throws massive amounts to sellers
via various subsidies is not a free market. In a free market without
massive
guvmint intervention, sellers of medical products and services would have
to
adjust their prices based on what buyers are willing to pay.

Except it's a fact. It's not a buyers' market. People have no choice to pay
or die. This isn't a carwash.

Private companies have little incentive to lower costs. They're in it for
the shareholders.

A very good argument for correcting the error made 65 years ago when we
decided to subsidize employer prepayment of medical expenses.

?? Costs would be even higher. Bush wanted to move everything to the private
sector, even social security in the stock market. That would have been just
great wouldn't it.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:32:25 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

However, left to only the free market, healthcare
costs would go up. This has already happened, so it's not really in
dispute.

Nonsense. A market in which the guvmint throws massive amounts to sellers
via various subsidies is not a free market. In a free market without
massive
guvmint intervention, sellers of medical products and services would have
to
adjust their prices based on what buyers are willing to pay.

Except it's a fact. It's not a buyers' market. People have no choice to
pay or die. This isn't a carwash.

People do have a choice to take care of their health, thus lowering the
cost. Obesity, smoking, lack of exercise and drug abuse all contribute
heavily to health care cost.



Private companies have little incentive to lower costs. They're in it for
the shareholders.

A very good argument for correcting the error made 65 years ago when we
decided to subsidize employer prepayment of medical expenses.

?? Costs would be even higher. Bush wanted to move everything to the
private sector, even social security in the stock market. That would have
been just great wouldn't it.

I guess it's better to get healthcare from the same system that runs the
Post Office.


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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:05:23 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

People have no choice to pay
or die. This isn't a carwash.

I suppose that if one is in a delicate condition, every sniffle and sore
throat is potentially life-threatening. For most of us that's not the
case.


Dude... are you really that heartless? Do you think a stomach ache can be an
indication of too much food but not a ruptured appenedix? Get real.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:05:23 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

People have no choice to pay
or die. This isn't a carwash.

I suppose that if one is in a delicate condition, every sniffle and sore
throat is potentially life-threatening. For most of us that's not the
case.


Dude... are you really that heartless? Do you think a stomach ache can be
an indication of too much food but not a ruptured appenedix? Get real.


A ruptured appendix has specific pain in the lower right quadrant. A stomach
ache is central and much higher. Hope this saves you several trips to the
emergency room.

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:06:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I suppose that if one is in a delicate condition, every sniffle and sore
throat is potentially life-threatening. For most of us that's not the
case.


Dude... are you really that heartless? Do you think a stomach ache can be
an
indication of too much food but not a ruptured appenedix? Get real.

Q.E.D.


Thanks for answering. I'm sorry you're so heartless.

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On 25 Nov 2008 14:36:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:06:16 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

I suppose that if one is in a delicate condition, every sniffle and sore
throat is potentially life-threatening. For most of us that's not the
case.


Dude... are you really that heartless? Do you think a stomach ache can be an
indication of too much food but not a ruptured appenedix? Get real.

Q.E.D.

You misspelled Queeg.