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[email protected] August 12th 08 07:41 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
On Aug 12, 2:31*pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:13*pm, JimH wrote:





On Aug 12, 12:39*pm, wrote:


On Aug 12, 12:17*pm, wrote:


On Aug 12, 11:42*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


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On Aug 12, 11:18 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


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On Aug 12, 9:39 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yeah, you and harry are buds.. next shall we expect you to call our
wives fat and chubby.. Mabey you could get a little vulgar about it
too, maybe post some pics that are disrespectful to your wife and
neighbors?? pffffttt........


-------------------------------


No need for those comments. Show me once in the last 12-13 years that I
have *ever* said anything derogatory or disrespectful to anyone's wife or
family. You can't. So there.


But, a bunch of grown up guys discussing how pretty they smell *is* kinda
funny.


Eisboch


I shouldn't have said it. But frivolously joining wafa in the pain and
anguish he brings to so many good, honest, hard working folks here is
never funny.


5 days till Independence day, yay beer!


I enjoy reading most of your posts. * I even enjoy reading some of Harry's.
May I offer a suggestion ....?


Don't take this stuff so seriously. * *It can actually be pretty funny.


Like old farts worrying about how pretty they smell.


Eisboch- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...


Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should


Really?


Just a couple of your classic's:


"By the way, are ALL of your kids prostituting? Are you still
pimping?"


I never said that you liar.



"So, how'd your wife get so greedy that she made you sell your boat,
asshole?"-


Fighting fire with fire, liar. Do you remember all of the nasty untrue
things you said about my wife and school aged children, low life?
Just a couple of your classics:
"So when did you stop beating your wife and kids?"
"Do you give your kids pot?"
"Still smoking pot with your kids"
It goes on and on, low life.- Hide quoted text -

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Well Loog.. They want to play with wafa, fine..
My kid came home early last week one night from a friends.. I asked
her why and she said, they are going to go out and smoke some cigs,
and they want me to try one, guess they are not my best friends...".
Kids, huh?

Anyway, this problem at Chucks could be fixed easy enough. Chuck has
to set up the karma system available on the BBsoftware he is using. A
very serious group I used to participate in used it to good end. When
you made a post, it was judged by your peers.. If is was a good post,
others would give you postitve karma. If you posted garbage, negative
karma.. The more karma you had, the more powerful your hit. If you
went below zero you went to the bin but could still post, only there.
From the bin you could plead your case, or change your attitude until
posters gave you enough positive karma to get out.. This worked out
great, especially for new posters coming in for info, they knew who
was considered to be knowledgable, and who was just full of ****...
Not like the present system which seems to work more like a labor
union, only protecting the scum, while good hard working posters get
tormented with no recourse.. Mind you, this was not a social group,
so folks were not there to fool around, but to get good solid reliable
info on the subject at hand...

I suggested this when he first started, but for for whatever reason he
seems to think one solitary mod is best.. so be it..

JimH[_2_] August 12th 08 07:42 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
On Aug 12, 2:31*pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:13*pm, JimH wrote:



On Aug 12, 12:39*pm, wrote:


On Aug 12, 12:17*pm, wrote:


On Aug 12, 11:42*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Aug 12, 11:18 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


...


On Aug 12, 9:39 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yeah, you and harry are buds.. next shall we expect you to call our
wives fat and chubby.. Mabey you could get a little vulgar about it
too, maybe post some pics that are disrespectful to your wife and
neighbors?? pffffttt........


-------------------------------


No need for those comments. Show me once in the last 12-13 years that I
have *ever* said anything derogatory or disrespectful to anyone's wife or
family. You can't. So there.


But, a bunch of grown up guys discussing how pretty they smell *is* kinda
funny.


Eisboch


I shouldn't have said it. But frivolously joining wafa in the pain and
anguish he brings to so many good, honest, hard working folks here is
never funny.


5 days till Independence day, yay beer!


I enjoy reading most of your posts. * I even enjoy reading some of Harry's.
May I offer a suggestion ....?


Don't take this stuff so seriously. * *It can actually be pretty funny.


Like old farts worrying about how pretty they smell.


Eisboch- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...


Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should


Really?


Just a couple of your classic's:


"By the way, are ALL of your kids prostituting? Are you still
pimping?"


I never said that you liar.



"So, how'd your wife get so greedy that she made you sell your boat,
asshole?"-


Fighting fire with fire, liar. Do you remember all of the nasty untrue
things you said about my wife and school aged children, low life?
Just a couple of your classics:
"So when did you stop beating your wife and kids?"
"Do you give your kids pot?"
"Still smoking pot with your kids"



Pssstt..............Booger...........

I did not make the statement "My family members are stand up sort of
people, and they wouldn't let me get away with acting like Harry
without saying something in a heartbeat, as well they
should"............*YOU* did.

Now, answer my questions you posted.

JimH[_2_] August 12th 08 07:43 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
On Aug 12, 2:33*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:49:24 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message
...


On Aug 12, 12:17 pm, wrote:


I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...


Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should


----------------------------------


Not picking sides here. *But I have a question for anyone and everyone:


Who hurled the first insult?


Betcha nobody can remember for sure. * It's a stupid game of tit-for-tat.


Eisboch


Harry. After a political disagreement.

You have a penchant for discussing politics, etc., with Harry. That is, in
effect, taking sides.

You're free to do so, of course, but you are 'taking sides' IMO. Granted,
you haven't stooped to his level of name-calling, but by your continued
discourse with him you're providing him a lot of encouragement.

But, that's your choice.


What is this, some sort of *us* against *them* NG? Grow up John.

John H.[_5_] August 12th 08 07:46 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:

On Aug 12, 2:33*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:49:24 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message
...


On Aug 12, 12:17 pm, wrote:


I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...


Couldn't have said it bett

er myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should


----------------------------------


Not picking sides here. *But I have a question for anyone and everyone:


Who hurled the first insult?


Betcha nobody can remember for sure. * It's a stupid game of tit-for-tat.


Eisboch


Harry. After a political disagreement.

You have a penchant for discussing politics, etc., with Harry. That is, in
effect, taking sides.

You're free to do so, of course, but you are 'taking sides' IMO. Granted,
you haven't stooped to his level of name-calling, but by your continued
discourse with him you're providing him a lot of encouragement.

But, that's your choice.


What is this, some sort of *us* against *them* NG? Grow up John.


I didn't originate the 'sides' term. I responded to it.

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


[email protected] August 12th 08 07:47 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
On Aug 12, 2:42*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:31*pm, wrote:





On Aug 12, 2:13*pm, JimH wrote:


On Aug 12, 12:39*pm, wrote:


On Aug 12, 12:17*pm, wrote:


On Aug 12, 11:42*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Aug 12, 11:18 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


...


On Aug 12, 9:39 am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Yeah, you and harry are buds.. next shall we expect you to call our
wives fat and chubby.. Mabey you could get a little vulgar about it
too, maybe post some pics that are disrespectful to your wife and
neighbors?? pffffttt........


-------------------------------


No need for those comments. Show me once in the last 12-13 years that I
have *ever* said anything derogatory or disrespectful to anyone's wife or
family. You can't. So there.


But, a bunch of grown up guys discussing how pretty they smell *is* kinda
funny.


Eisboch


I shouldn't have said it. But frivolously joining wafa in the pain and
anguish he brings to so many good, honest, hard working folks here is
never funny.


5 days till Independence day, yay beer!


I enjoy reading most of your posts. * I even enjoy reading some of Harry's.
May I offer a suggestion ....?


Don't take this stuff so seriously. * *It can actually be pretty funny.


Like old farts worrying about how pretty they smell.


Eisboch- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...


Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should


Really?


Just a couple of your classic's:


"By the way, are ALL of your kids prostituting? Are you still
pimping?"


I never said that you liar.


"So, how'd your wife get so greedy that she made you sell your boat,
asshole?"-


Fighting fire with fire, liar. Do you remember all of the nasty untrue
things you said about my wife and school aged children, low life?
Just a couple of your classics:
"So when did you stop beating your wife and kids?"
"Do you give your kids pot?"
"Still smoking pot with your kids"


Pssstt..............Booger...........

I did not make the statement "My family members are stand up sort of
people, and they wouldn't let me get away with acting like Harry
without saying something in a heartbeat, as well they
should"............*YOU* did.

Now, *answer my questions you posted.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Nice to know that YOUR family condones your saying nasty, vile, things
and telling vicious lies about someone's wife and family. Kind of
figures.

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. August 12th 08 07:47 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:49:24 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message
...

On Aug 12, 12:17 pm, wrote:
I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...

Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should

----------------------------------

Not picking sides here. But I have a question for anyone and everyone:

Who hurled the first insult?

Betcha nobody can remember for sure. It's a stupid game of tit-for-tat.

Eisboch


Harry. After a political disagreement.

You have a penchant for discussing politics, etc., with Harry. That is, in
effect, taking sides.

You're free to do so, of course, but you are 'taking sides' IMO. Granted,
you haven't stooped to his level of name-calling, but by your continued
discourse with him you're providing him a lot of encouragement.

But, that's your choice.



I have to disagree. Eisboch has never encouraged Harry's manic
narcissistic behavior. He has on occasion told Harry he thought Harry's
behavior was counterproductive to having a good boating group, but
whatever Eisboch does it will not change Harry's behavior. There have
been 100's of people who have chastised Harry, he just doesn't care. He
holds SWF and Eisboch as his "righteous rightees" because he is
desperate for a friend, but what they do will NEVER impact Harry. When
Chuck told Harry what he really thought of him, it did not change
Harry's behavior at all. All it did was give Harry one more person to
insult.

If you really want to know what would change Harry's behavior is if all
of us ignored him. Will that ever happen? I doubt it. Harry is too
easy of a target. Someone who is so insecure that he spends all of his
time making up a fictitious life, and then getting his panties in a wad
when he forgets all of his stories. As someone who has enjoyed this
verbal joust with Harry, I have enjoy the game, but if I left, and I
have off and on many times, Harry would not change at all. What you see
is what you get. A very insecure old man.

HK August 12th 08 07:48 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
JimH wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:33 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:49:24 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 12:17 pm, wrote:
I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...
Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should
----------------------------------
Not picking sides here. But I have a question for anyone and everyone:
Who hurled the first insult?
Betcha nobody can remember for sure. It's a stupid game of tit-for-tat.
Eisboch

Harry. After a political disagreement.

You have a penchant for discussing politics, etc., with Harry. That is, in
effect, taking sides.

You're free to do so, of course, but you are 'taking sides' IMO. Granted,
you haven't stooped to his level of name-calling, but by your continued
discourse with him you're providing him a lot of encouragement.

But, that's your choice.


What is this, some sort of *us* against *them* NG? Grow up John.



It really ****es herring off when people he has no control over don't
play by his rules. He must have been one hell of an officer, when he was
sober.




--
"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade
and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion,
regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts
to weaken or undermine that right."

Eisboch August 12th 08 07:54 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 

"John H." wrote in message
...


You have a penchant for discussing politics, etc., with Harry. That is, in
effect, taking sides.

You're free to do so, of course, but you are 'taking sides' IMO. Granted,
you haven't stooped to his level of name-calling, but by your continued
discourse with him you're providing him a lot of encouragement.

But, that's your choice.



I am not a 5th grader taking "sides" John.

I think there's a big difference between having disagreements about
politics, boats, guitars, wine, collard green receipes or whatever and being
able to discuss, even debate the subjects without resorting to name
calling/insults ..... and the tit for tat personal insults that are
constantly being hurled back and forth here.

I try (not always successful) to subscribe to that rule and I have no
problem conversing with anyone who displays the same level of respect to me,
even if we disagree 100%. Even Harry.

Those that argue that politics and guitars don't belong in a boating
newsgroup have a legitimate point, but I'd argue that the pure "Usenet" of
old has evolved with increased bandwidth. The practice of strickly adhering
to OT posts was originally due to limited speed and bandwidth. So, I am
among those that do not have a problem with someOT posts, particularly when
the subject is of interest to others in the group, and as long as the
original purpose of the newsgroup remains the primary subject.

My post was merely to point out that the origins of the name calling has
been long forgotten, but the insults continue from both "sides" as a matter
of ...... what? That's the point.

Eisboch




HK August 12th 08 07:57 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
JimH wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:31 pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:13 pm, JimH wrote:



On Aug 12, 12:39 pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:17 pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:42 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 11:18 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 9:39 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Yeah, you and harry are buds.. next shall we expect you to call our
wives fat and chubby.. Mabey you could get a little vulgar about it
too, maybe post some pics that are disrespectful to your wife and
neighbors?? pffffttt........
-------------------------------
No need for those comments. Show me once in the last 12-13 years that I
have *ever* said anything derogatory or disrespectful to anyone's wife or
family. You can't. So there.
But, a bunch of grown up guys discussing how pretty they smell *is* kinda
funny.
Eisboch
I shouldn't have said it. But frivolously joining wafa in the pain and
anguish he brings to so many good, honest, hard working folks here is
never funny.
5 days till Independence day, yay beer!
I enjoy reading most of your posts. I even enjoy reading some of Harry's.
May I offer a suggestion ....?
Don't take this stuff so seriously. It can actually be pretty funny.
Like old farts worrying about how pretty they smell.
Eisboch- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I am naive I guess, but I am always amazed how folks I would usually
consider friends would play with folks who have been so cruel to me
and others. One thing about the three generations who I am raising
here is we are loyal to the bone. Family and friends first, for better
or worse, right or wrong, no compromises. And we demand the same from
all we deal with...
Couldn't have said it better myself. It must be a shame to have to
live like Harry and make up lies about your family.
My family members are stand up sort of people, and they wouldn't let
me get away with acting like Harry without saying something in a
heartbeat, as well they should
Really?
Just a couple of your classic's:
"By the way, are ALL of your kids prostituting? Are you still
pimping?"

I never said that you liar.



"So, how'd your wife get so greedy that she made you sell your boat,
asshole?"-

Fighting fire with fire, liar. Do you remember all of the nasty untrue
things you said about my wife and school aged children, low life?
Just a couple of your classics:
"So when did you stop beating your wife and kids?"
"Do you give your kids pot?"
"Still smoking pot with your kids"



Pssstt..............Booger...........

I did not make the statement "My family members are stand up sort of
people, and they wouldn't let me get away with acting like Harry
without saying something in a heartbeat, as well they
should"............*YOU* did.

Now, answer my questions you posted.



Here's a better one: to my knowledge no one here knows or admits knowing
Loogy's "wife and school-aged children." I've never seen their names
mentioned, nor am I interested in learning their names. Unless Loogy is
Loogy's real name, any insults Loogy perceives as aimed at his family
are, in reality, aimed at...unknown people.

Loogy is a drooling idiot.







--
"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade
and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion,
regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts
to weaken or undermine that right."

[email protected] August 12th 08 08:09 PM

a "Real" man smells like...........
 
On Aug 12, 2:54*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...



You have a penchant for discussing politics, etc., with Harry. That is, in
effect, taking sides.


You're free to do so, of course, but you are 'taking sides' IMO. Granted,
you haven't stooped to his level of name-calling, but by your continued
discourse with him you're providing him a lot of encouragement.


But, that's your choice.


I am not a 5th grader taking "sides" *John.

I think there's a big difference between having disagreements about
politics, boats, guitars, wine, collard green receipes or whatever and being
able to discuss, even debate the subjects without resorting to name
calling/insults ..... and the tit for tat personal insults that are
constantly being hurled back and forth here.

I try *(not always successful) to subscribe to that rule and I have no
problem conversing with anyone who displays the same level of respect to me,
even if we disagree 100%. * Even Harry.


You have the luxury of being one of the two here wafa kisses up to..
the rest of us I guess just have to hold our noses.

Those that argue that politics and guitars don't belong in a boating
newsgroup have a legitimate point, but I'd argue that the pure "Usenet" of
old has evolved with increased bandwidth. *The practice of strickly adhering
to OT posts was originally due to limited speed and bandwidth. *So, *I am
among those that do not have a problem with someOT posts, particularly when
the subject is of interest to others in the group, and as long as the
original purpose of the newsgroup remains the primary subject.

My post was merely to point out that the origins of the name calling has
been long forgotten, but the insults continue from both "sides" *as a matter
of ...... * what? * That's the point.

Eisboch




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