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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.

Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. I ate a lot of catfish. Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.

--Vic

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On Jan 20, 2:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.

Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

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People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:14:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:13:26 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

LOL!!

Twenty years ago when I was just starting out after semi-retirement as
a "professional" guide, I took a trip out west with the family. Mrs.
Wave took the kids to see something and I went fishing with an First
American guide up the Snake River in Wyoming on reservation land.

Best fish ever. We caught a couple of nice size trout and the guide
kept them. Steamed them in corn husks with some salt and pepper.

Unbelievable.

Of course, outdoors in the beauty of the Grand Tetons might have
helped that along. :)

I bet. I think it was about '72 I stopped somewhere out that way to
gas up and got to talking with the gas pump jockey about fishing.
He was going fishing on the Snake or Green - can't remember - the
next day and invited me along. Said they be damming it up soon, and
he wasn't happy about that. I was in too big a hurry to take him up
on it, and always regretted it.

--Vic

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On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Vic Smith" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...

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On Jan 20, 2:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:18:40 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
Guess we should just cut their frekin' heads off then.. more humane??

Remember that bluefish you argued with for about ten minutes in
Narragansett?

Think it appreciated the time in the live well to recover? *Did it
die? *Did it swim away when you let it go?

There is C&R and then there is correct C&R.

You are right there dawg...;) That fish was in there for at least 3-4
hours and was way cool when we let him go. Catch and release is much
healthier for the fish than choppin' his head off and gutting the
thing, almost any time I would think;) But seriously, that blue looked
very healthy and spry when we put him back...

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On Jan 20, 2:44*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.

Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:53:19 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Red Herring" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them
up out
of the mud, eh?
ROTF!!!!!!!

Word of the Day:

toady


Main Entry:
Pronunciation:
\?to--de-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural toad·ies
Etymology:
by shortening & alteration from toadeater
Date:
1826

: one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors
--
Red Herring


Pot, kettle..black!
Have you hooked up with Snivlers yet today?



I wonder when Herring's 93 grandchildren show up if Gramps takes his
teeth out, winds them up, and lets them dance on the tabletop for the
enjoyment of the younger generation? :-)

At least Herring has grandchildren that come to his house.


Well, Bertie, find a woman. Get her real drunk and see if she will
procreate with you. Send the resulting issue away until it reaches the
age of majority, so it isn't poisoned by your selfish mindset. Perhaps
it, too, will procreate and with a monitor present in your household,
allow you to see kids in your house.

Some would say that was 'very cool', Harry.
--
Red Herring

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On Jan 20, 2:57*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:
Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.
Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.
Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.
Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes you are.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:50:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Vic Smith" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...

Used to be one outside Columbus, GA, too. For about $3.99 you could eat all
the catfish, hushpuppies, cole slaw, and french fries your body could hold.
That was back in 1970, so times may have changed some.
--
Red Herring