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More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:03:54 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Red Herring" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:10:14 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"Red Herring" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:08 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"Red Herring" wrote in message
om...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than
good
chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising
and
repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia
Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish
down to Florida.

That's a good point.

I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a
rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I
was really active in the business.

You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a
stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole
process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel
when conditions warranted.

Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my
Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total
experience, not just catching fish.

Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is
successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch
their
limit of fish.
--
Red Herring

Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the
day
on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can
buy
them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them.
Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch
them.
A
former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a
limit,
was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the
Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately
because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes.
I
fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not
going
to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes.

Go back and read. Catching some fish *does* make a fishing trip more
enjoyable. I've enjoyed myself when I got skunked, but enjoyed the trip
a
little more when I didn't.

If you have more fun not catching than you do catching, I'd say give up
fishing!
--
Red Herring

I disagree. You said catch a limit. That infers you took home a limit.

The limit is two each. Yes, it's more fun going home with a limit than it
is with none or one. Catching a fish is fun, and catching two is more fun.

I don't know what you're disagreeing with, but that's OK. If you enjoy
catching nothing more than catching two, then have at it.
--
Red Herring

I catch lot more than 2 but rarely bring home one when fishing stripers.

Once I've caught the limit, I go home. I don't believe in catching just to
be catching, or culling as some do.
--
Red Herring

More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Jan 20, 4:00*pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

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People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

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Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

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ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year.......those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?

What a maroon!

BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

And what is that, doctor?

More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Jan 20, 3:34*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:29*pm, wrote:

On Jan 20, 2:50*pm, wrote:

On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:

On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own..
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

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Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...- Hide quoted text -

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If you ever find yourself on I-75 in the vicinity of Live Oak, FL not
far from the GA/FL border, you'll see bright colored billboards for
Sheffield's Catfish House. It's a run down looking truckstop with the
best catfish I've ever tasted!- Hide quoted text -

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My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -

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Tell him to check it out, he'll think it's a dump, but every single
person I've told to stop there has thanked me afterward.

More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:

My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -

It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Jan 21, 11:12*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:00 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...

People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

===========

ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year........those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?
What a maroon!

BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

And what is that, docto

I wasn't following your illness closely, but I vaguely recall you
poisoned yourself with skunky homemade beer. Maybe not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If that's what's in your head, then you need help. Please show where I
said anything of the sort. I can end this easily. At least I didn't
lie about a Zimmerman like lobster boat ownership.

More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Jan 21, 10:55*am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -

It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the

http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm

More political cut and paste from Harry..

On Jan 21, 11:12*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:00 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...

People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

===========

ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year........those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?
What a maroon!

BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

And what is that, docto

I wasn't following your illness closely, but I vaguely recall you
poisoned yourself with skunky homemade beer. Maybe not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, and nice reach around, I'll bet JimH enjoyed it!

More political cut and paste from Harry..