On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:32:48 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Side issue: Silliest thing I see on the Bay is the mid-size Sea Rays
(primarily) going along "on plane" with the bow ridiculously above the
helmsman's line of sight. They throw an enormous wake for their size
and speed and look so strange with their bows pointing up to the sky.

And there's no reason for it either. All Searays have trim tabs, and
the I/O models also have adjustable tilt/trim on the outdrive. It is
relatively easy to trim them flat if you know what you're doing, and
fuel economy usually improves as a bonus.

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:42:51 -0800, "Calif Bill"
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"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed
as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels to SF bay.

Bow wave/wake - same damn thing in effect. :)

Nope, the sub bow wave is HUGE compared to any of the tanker wakes. Much
more affected by effect.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub
captain, an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's
driving a bait boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore
channels to SF bay.

You can doubt it all you wish. It was covered on the TV news in Jax, and
there were a couple of articles in the area newspapers.

I doubt he is driving a date barge.


Or a bait barge.

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:07:10 -0000, otnmbrd
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" JimH" ask wrote in
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If that is his purpose of being here..........too bad.

The problem is that he is failing.

There is no taking back what he said. Why you continue to defend him
is beyond me.

Mayhaps Wayne is getting fed up with the stupid "everyone else is
responsible for my irresponsibility" attitude of too many Americans.
Go on the water on a boat and you will need to deal with waves and
wakes...... from both sides.
Sure, there are idiots who have no knowledge and/or concern about their
potential for creating a problem with their wake....but their numbers are
equalled and exceeded by those idiots who have no knowledge or common
sense
to realize that on the water, wakes/waves may cause them problems under
many conditions and it's up to them to handle those problems so that their
passengers and their vessel can proceed, safely.

Amen.

All my years of boating, and I have only had one real problem with a large
commercial ship. Couple of years ago I am fishing in San Francisco Bay off
Angel Island. I am outside the channel a short distance. I see a tanker
coming under the San Rafael Bridge. No problem. Yes problem, he is empty
and cutting the corner and is outside the channel. I am in 23' of water, so
plenty of depth for him Unfortunately I forget I have the drift sock out
and drive over it, locking up the kicker prop and covering intake to the
jet. I get on the radio and call the ship and he actually turns to pass me
between the island and me. We both screwed up. Me forgetting the drift
sock and he cutting corners and hoping there is no idiot with a dead boat in
the way. But I was impressed with their seamanship. Biggest problem in the
bay is sailboats. They think they have the right of way over everything.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Unfortunately there's more than one. :-)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:41:46 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I was impressed with their seamanship. Biggest problem in the
bay is sailboats. They think they have the right of way over everything.

There was an interesting incident a number of years ago on SF Bay
involving a very well known sailor and sailmaker named Lowell North.
He cut about 50 ft in front of a freighter during a sailboat race. The
freighter skipper reported him and he was fined a large amount by USCG
for failing to stay clear (it was in a traffic lane). North argued
that 50 ft was more than enough for safe passage in front of the ship
and that as an experienced racing skipper he had his vessel totally
under control.

The Coast Guard was not impressed.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Could be the Wake Wussy Weenie Whiners.

Heh - it's starting to look like a truth table. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.
I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)
It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)
Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Could be the Wake Wussy Weenie Whiners.

Heh - it's starting to look like a truth table. :)

Is there any truth that the WWWW suffer from LT Syndrome?