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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
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And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)


Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?


Could be the Wake Wussy Weenie Whiners.

Heh - it's starting to look like a truth table. :)

No truth tables to be found in this group .


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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:33:04 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:08:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Stop splitting hairs, Reggie. At really low speeds, my boat leaves a
practically flat wake that isn't going to cause any small boats nearby
any grief.
And how often do you run at really low speed?

We thought you were on the fast track, getting out to those fish as
quickly as possible. Virtually everyone I know with a boat that will
run at planing speeds can't wait to get up and moving because the ride
is so miserable at slow speed.


Obviously your circle is filled with jerks.

We spend some time exploring the smaller rivers and creeks around here,
and when we do, slow speeds are the way to go. My Parker rides just fine
at slow speeds, and at those speeds, you can barely hear the engine and
there is no exhaust smell. It's great being out in all that air, just a
few feet above the water. You see things you simply cannot see if you're
on an RV barge.

Of course, you wouldn't be able to take that oversized, diesel-smelling
barge into some of the waters we frequent...


What creeks and rivers do you explore? It's not like there are hundreds
around Breezy Point. Do idle all the way across the bay? Once you've been
up the Patuxent, the Severn, the South, etc, rivers, how often do you go
back? Hell, they don't change that much.



Get yourself a chart of the Bay.
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:52:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
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HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast,
including the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?

Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)
I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.

The point is that your name is Jim Gallow.


And you are hilarious!

JimH's guessing what my real name is, isn't worth any comment what so
ever. I can remember when Harry used to use JimH's real name in
rec.boats and he was screaming about Harry stalking him and making
threats to his sick wife. When Chuck posted a link to JimH's ad where
he was selling his Vespa, he accussed Chuck of posting his telephone
number, even though he knew it did not include his number.
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:33:04 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:08:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Stop splitting hairs, Reggie. At really low speeds, my boat leaves a
practically flat wake that isn't going to cause any small boats nearby
any grief.


And how often do you run at really low speed?

We thought you were on the fast track, getting out to those fish as
quickly as possible. Virtually everyone I know with a boat that will
run at planing speeds can't wait to get up and moving because the ride
is so miserable at slow speed.



Obviously your circle is filled with jerks.

We spend some time exploring the smaller rivers and creeks around here,
and when we do, slow speeds are the way to go. My Parker rides just fine
at slow speeds, and at those speeds, you can barely hear the engine and
there is no exhaust smell. It's great being out in all that air, just a
few feet above the water. You see things you simply cannot see if you're
on an RV barge.

Of course, you wouldn't be able to take that oversized, diesel-smelling
barge into some of the waters we frequent...


What creeks and rivers do you explore? It's not like there are hundreds
around Breezy Point. Do idle all the way across the bay? Once you've been
up the Patuxent, the Severn, the South, etc, rivers, how often do you go
back? Hell, they don't change that much.
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:05:08 -0400, "Don White"
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"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right
to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or
get off ''his'' waters.

Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2.
============================

No whine before its time.

One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat"
implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if
any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I
suspected it.

That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away
from where the big boys play.


Geez...what an arrogant ass you are.

He's a 'professional boater'..don't ya know, heads & shoulders above the
common weekend recreational types.


Down boy! Good puppy!


Didn't WayneB tell you to clam up in another thread?
It worked on JohnH and I was really hoping it would make you straighten up
and fly straight.


How's your mom, Don? Haven't heard anything in a while. Is she doing OK?


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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:45:18 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is
manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.



Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?


Reggie has previously stated that he owns a house boat. I would guess he
cannot take wakes any larger than those produced by PWC.

Maybe that is why he spends all his boating time at the dock........you
know.......real boating hours. ;-)


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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:52:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast,
including the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?


Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)


I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.


The point is that your name is Jim Gallow.


And you are hilarious!
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:11:20 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side
of the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D
canal.... Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the
Elk with only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a
problem for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving
fairly flat wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship
channel, it usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.


Sure you have.


Harry,
Do you read what SWS said to Charile and BAR when they were accusing you
of not owning a lobster boat? It is just as boring and stupid when you
do the same thing.


Sorry, Reggie, but I don't pay much attention to the crap posted here by
the likes of BAR and Charile. In fact, I don't even recall a Charile.
Perhaps you like reading the posts of idiots on a regular basis, but I
do not.

There's no reason to believe you have a boat.


Harry, is there any reason to believe you own a 36' lobster style boat?
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:18:26 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:32:48 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Side issue: Silliest thing I see on the Bay is the mid-size Sea Rays
(primarily) going along "on plane" with the bow ridiculously above the
helmsman's line of sight. They throw an enormous wake for their size
and speed and look so strange with their bows pointing up to the sky.


And there's no reason for it either. All Searays have trim tabs, and
the I/O models also have adjustable tilt/trim on the outdrive. It is
relatively easy to trim them flat if you know what you're doing, and
fuel economy usually improves as a bonus.


Those are the guys that left Hummers in the parking lot. They are into the
'erection' look.
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John H. wrote:


'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.


I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.





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