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HK November 13th 07 02:25 AM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.



Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?


None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.



Sure you have.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 13th 07 02:57 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction BlocksTraffic
 
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for
the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay
and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the
word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually
isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large.
I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have
that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast, including
the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?


Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)



I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.


Reginald P. Smithers III November 13th 07 02:58 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction BlocksTraffic
 
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for
the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay
and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the
word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually
isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large.
I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have
that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast, including
the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?


It may be possible, but give me a boating route from Lake Lanier to Key West
and the Great Lakes.

You have previously stated that you do not own a trailer for your houseboat.



What world do you live in that one can only use one boat or only go
boating in your boat?


Reginald P. Smithers III November 13th 07 02:59 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction BlocksTraffic
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?


None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.



Sure you have.


Harry,
Do you read what SWS said to Charile and BAR when they were accusing you
of not owning a lobster boat? It is just as boring and stupid when you
do the same thing.


Wayne.B November 13th 07 03:11 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction Blocks Traffic
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:18 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

The Chesapeake Bay has a huge amount of commercial traffic. Head boats,
party boats, car carriers, container ships, LNG ships.


Yes, and they travel at 20+ kts leaving a pretty big bow wave that
travels for miles.


So who was talking about commercial traffic?


We were. What diference does it make? A wake is a wake.

Deal with it, as soon as Lake Eerie warms up 6 or 7 months from now.
Cleveland was on the 6 o'clock news tonight and the weather looked
miserable, nice medical center though.


HK November 13th 07 03:11 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction BlocksTraffic
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side
of the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D
canal.... Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the
Elk with only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a
problem for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving
fairly flat wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship
channel, it usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.



Sure you have.


Harry,
Do you read what SWS said to Charile and BAR when they were accusing you
of not owning a lobster boat? It is just as boring and stupid when you
do the same thing.


Sorry, Reggie, but I don't pay much attention to the crap posted here by
the likes of BAR and Charile. In fact, I don't even recall a Charile.
Perhaps you like reading the posts of idiots on a regular basis, but I
do not.

There's no reason to believe you have a boat.


HK November 13th 07 03:15 AM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:18 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

The Chesapeake Bay has a huge amount of commercial traffic. Head boats,
party boats, car carriers, container ships, LNG ships.
Yes, and they travel at 20+ kts leaving a pretty big bow wave that
travels for miles.

So who was talking about commercial traffic?


We were. What diference does it make? A wake is a wake.

Deal with it, as soon as Lake Eerie warms up 6 or 7 months from now.
Cleveland was on the 6 o'clock news tonight and the weather looked
miserable, nice medical center though.



So, what's the approximate bill on that dropped tranny?

Wayne.B November 13th 07 03:22 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction Blocks Traffic
 
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:20:30 -0000, otnmbrd
wrote:

For a commercial ship to travel at 20+ knots, they will have to be at "sea
speeds" which generally requires a 30-40 minute slow down period before
they can maneuver.....not hardly likely in the "Chessy" (not impossible,
just not likely).


I have tracked them in the lower bay with my radar. It's usually
pretty close.

Short Wave Sportfishing November 13th 07 03:25 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction Blocks Traffic
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:11:05 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:18 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

The Chesapeake Bay has a huge amount of commercial traffic. Head boats,
party boats, car carriers, container ships, LNG ships.

Yes, and they travel at 20+ kts leaving a pretty big bow wave that
travels for miles.


So who was talking about commercial traffic?


We were. What diference does it make? A wake is a wake.

Deal with it, as soon as Lake Eerie warms up 6 or 7 months from now.
Cleveland was on the 6 o'clock news tonight and the weather looked
miserable, nice medical center though.


I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

HK November 13th 07 03:26 AM

Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction BlocksTraffic
 

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:20:30 -0000, otnmbrd
wrote:

For a commercial ship to travel at 20+ knots, they will have to be at "sea
speeds" which generally requires a 30-40 minute slow down period before
they can maneuver.....not hardly likely in the "Chessy" (not impossible,
just not likely).




I've never seen one at that speed in the areas of the Bay I frequent,
usually from the Pax River north to the Baltimore area.


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