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Scotty November 12th 07 03:02 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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There are plenty of places on the Bay where very small

boats congregate.
You probably don't notice them. There are guys out there

in rowboats,
kayaks, canoes, not in the middle of the bay, but not far

offshore, near
inlets, creeks, et cetera. Most boaters slow down anytime

they get near
these guys, so they don't cause them problems. The

arrogant ass boaters,
of course, don't.


I *always* slow down for rowboats, kayaks and canoes, even

when they
are where they don't belong. Everyone else is a judgement

call. I
don't believe we have ever endangered anyone with our wake

but there
are lots of "wake whiners" out there who expect flat water

where ever
they go. Some of them are in large sailboats which is

kind of
comical.



arrogant, pompous, asshole named Wayne.




Ernest Scribbler November 12th 07 03:21 AM

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
The only time any real sailboat is bothered by a wake is when it's
motoring along in a channel.


I'm mostly bothered when I'm parked. Hard to "stay away from where the big
boys play" when they play in my back yard.
http://blizzard.zmm.com/whips/movie.wmv
(Strictly speaking, if it that's as bad as it ever got, I'd have no
complaints. I don't have any video of my nemesis in the big blue SeaRay
plowing by.)



BAR November 12th 07 03:36 AM

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Don White wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right
to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or
get off ''his'' waters.

Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2.
============================

No whine before its time.

One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat"
implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if
any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I
suspected it.

That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away
from where the big boys play.

Geez...what an arrogant ass you are.
He's a 'professional boater'..don't ya know, heads & shoulders above the
common weekend recreational types.

Down boy! Good puppy!


Didn't WayneB tell you to clam up in another thread?
It worked on JohnH and I was really hoping it would make you straighten up
and fly straight.



Here's a candidate for admonishment. Any takers? Wayne, Tom...

Wayne.B November 12th 07 04:13 AM

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:14 -0500, BAR wrote:

Here's a candidate for admonishment. Any takers? Wayne, Tom...


And why not you?

For better or worse it is our group. Make it what you think it should
be.

Wayne.B November 12th 07 04:28 AM

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:21:27 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

I'm mostly bothered when I'm parked. Hard to "stay away from where the big
boys play" when they play in my back yard.
http://blizzard.zmm.com/whips/movie.wmv
(Strictly speaking, if it that's as bad as it ever got, I'd have no
complaints. I don't have any video of my nemesis in the big blue SeaRay
plowing by.)

Ouch. Nice location but you're in a difficult situation there with
wakes. There are some alternatives to the mooring whips which I've
seen used elsewhere and would be more effective:

- A boat lift, also keeps the bottom clean and makes the boat easier
to work on.

- An anchor to the channel side with a bow and stern bridle, allowing
you to pull the boat further away from the dock.

- A mooring with or without a "haul out" system. A mooring is
essentially a big anchor with chain and a floating ball on the
surface. Unless you rig a "haul out" system you will need to take a
dinghy out to the boat. A "haul out" is essentially a continuous
pulley system like an old fashioned clothes line that allows you to
retrieve the boat from shore.

Eisboch November 12th 07 07:09 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote

I've often been out on my little 13' Whaler navigating

over a big (to it)
wake from a passing large boat a mile away.


''a mile away''? Now you're just being stupid.


SBV


Why is that stupid? It's absolutely true.

Eisboch



Eisboch November 12th 07 07:10 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Wayne's comment is pure arrogance.

Eisboch



Agreed.


Please be careful with your attributes. I didn't say that.

Eisboch



Lew Hodgett November 12th 07 07:27 AM

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Somebody wrote:

''a mile away''? Now you're just being stupid.


A couple of things:

1) You have never been on Lake Erie when a 1,000 ft ore boat with 60,000
tons of ore on board, travelling at 25 knots goes down the lake on the
assigned mid lake course.

You know by the bow wave they leave as they pass you 4-5 miles away.

2) You obviously have you head where the moon doesn't shine.

Lew




Short Wave Sportfishing November 12th 07 11:13 AM

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:02:20 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

arrogant, pompous, asshole named Wayne.


Look in a mirrror.

Moron.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 12th 07 11:47 AM

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HK wrote:

Eisboch


When you have powerboaters like Wayne B., who says,
"That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away
from where the big boys play," then you don't have to wonder whether
there are ill-mannered guys out there who don't give a damn about the
havoc their wakes cause."

I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam about
their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on Chesapeake
Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its tributaries.


Wakes do happen, and on a calm day can travel one hell of a long way. I
have been on the lake and been hit by a large wake, and have looked up
to see a boat that appears to be a mile away. If you made the ICW truly
wake free, you would have all boats creeping barely being able to steer.
If I am not in a no wake zone or 500 ft. from the shore or a
anchored boat, I really don't think about my wake, but I know I am
making one, and yes it can impact on the shoreline and boats tied up on
a dock. If you were honest with yourself, you would have to agree that
your boat does make a wake, and yes that wake has made some impact on
other boats, shorelines and docked boats.

How often have you been boating on the Bay with very little wind, yet
the bay is very choppy from everyone's wake.


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