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Eisboch November 12th 07 02:05 AM

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" JimH" ask wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Traffic cannot be expected to look up every side-channel and slow down
in time if there's boats in them. They'd have to slow down for every
side channel because by the time they could see small boats in them
going at speed it would be too late to slow down. The burden is on the
small boat fishing to keep clear of dangerous wakes coming from the ICW.
Go fish someplace else. There is a rule that says fishing boats shall
not impede traffic in a channel.

Wilbur Hubbard


At some point in the Carolinas (I think South, but can't remember for
sure) we came upon a large fleet of small jon boats, anchored and
fishing, smack in the middle of the channel and along it's shoreline.
The guy ahead of us in a trawler tried to get around them to the left and
promptly ran aground.

After several minutes of deliberations, I started weaving my way between
the boats at idle speed on my 52' vessel. Despite this, we still got the
one finger salute from many of the boats along with references to certain
parts of one's anatomy.

Shuda waked them.

Eisboch


What is that saying about 'sticks and stones'?


Without going into detail, I had one guy on my boat who tends to get a
little hot tempered quickly. Fortunately, my brother kept him under control
because otherwise things would have become real ugly fast.

Eisboch



Vic Smith November 12th 07 02:10 AM

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:05:46 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



Without going into detail, I had one guy on my boat who tends to get a
little hot tempered quickly. Fortunately, my brother kept him under control
because otherwise things would have become real ugly fast.

ICW Rage.

--Vic

Don White November 12th 07 02:12 AM

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
" JimH" ask wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:51:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Wayne's comment is not arrogance. It's realism.
Thank you.

There are a lot of wake whiners out there. :-)
Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger
boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate
for it in your case.


Children, children! My experience is I'd rather a power boat go by full
blast. They make smaller wakes of shorter duration going full blast than
when they slow down trying to be polite. Any sailor whose sailboat can't
take a powerboat wake without stuff flying off the shelves needs to get
his act together.

Wilbur Hubbard



Really? Interesting, because when I come off plane and slow my boat way
down, there's no visible wake. There are bubbles. That's been true for
all the boats I've ever owned.


Duh. Are you dumb or something? Let's say the sailboat's motoring along at
six or seven knots. You need to be going about ten knots in your powerboat
in order to get around them in a timely manner. At ten knots your
powerboat is "plowing." That is it's making a big, slow, rolly wake. This
slow wake is worse than a high speed wake which has smaller waves at a
higher frequency.

You're welcome.

Wilbur Hubbard


Yeah...as if that mustard yellow Coronado 27 could keep up a six or seven
knot cruise without shaking apart.



Scotty November 12th 07 02:39 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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These sportfish were moving fast however, and coming a lot

closer than
you'd really like. No blood, no foul. It gets

interesting if I'm
capsized however. They are resposible for their wake, we

all know
that. What about my quesionable judgement however (too

small a boat),
and failure to negotiate a dangerous wave in a seamanlike

manner. Life
is complicated sometimes.



What Wayne is saying, Jon, is that everybody should be
required , by law, to own a boat larger than 40' so he can
act irresponsible and not cause any serious damage.

SBV



Scotty November 12th 07 02:40 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty"

wrote:

Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given

right
to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it,

or
get off ''his'' waters.

Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2.






That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat,

or stay away
from where the big boys play.




see what I mean?





Scotty November 12th 07 02:42 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty"

wrote:

Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given

right
to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with

it, or
get off ''his'' waters.

Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2.

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No whine before its time.

One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a

smaller boat"
implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't

think much, if
any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone

to task if I
suspected it.

That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger

boat, or stay away
from where the big boys play.




Geez...what an arrogant ass you are.


After a couple of days I realized that when others don't

respect them
and give you a one-finger salute instead ..... wake 'em!

:-)


Ahhh, another one.




Scotty November 12th 07 02:46 AM

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...
Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the

ditch..... was an open
stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side

channel, doin
about 10K.
All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and

noticed a
fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh

Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but
knew it was too late!
As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last

drop of water out
of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and

dry in the mud with
his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps.
Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void

and all we saw was
assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of

directions......
Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman"

from the South who
had many choice words to say about our "Yankee"

heritage.....worst part was
that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact

that we were all
ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled

the worse our fit
became!!!
To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the

channel till he
finally gave up the chase!


Well, at least you tried.

SBV



Scotty November 12th 07 02:53 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message news:L-

In my limited experience traveling the ICW I saw no

"intentional" waking
of a slower or smaller vessel by the larger boats, with

one exception. A
large sportsfish blew by us and others at full speed,

ignoring all speed
zones. I heard on the radio that he was coming and to

watch out. He was
caught further down the ICW about an hour later.



So, with your admitted ''limited experience'' , you admit to
witnessing a stinkpotter waking other boats.

Just think how many you'd see if you had some experience.


To be truthful, I saw more sailboat operators running on

their engine,
ignoring the "rules of the road".




Wake them !!!



I see more crazy powerboat operation in a single weekend

at the entrance to
Scituate harbor during the summer than anything I

witnessed on the ICW and
the biggest offenders are in smaller, outboard or I/O

powered boats.


You shulda waked them all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Eisboch





Scotty November 12th 07 02:54 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote

I've often been out on my little 13' Whaler navigating

over a big (to it)
wake from a passing large boat a mile away.


''a mile away''? Now you're just being stupid.


SBV



Scotty November 12th 07 02:56 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Wayne's comment is pure arrogance.

Eisboch



Agreed.




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