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Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.
A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 |
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Wayne.B wrote:
Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 Did they run into the transmission you dropped? |
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 Did they run into the transmission you dropped? I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm could have moved something around. |
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:37:14 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 Yipe - that sucks. In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money in it for dredging the waterway? |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:10:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money in it for dredging the waterway? That would be nice but I haven't heard anything about it. The "thing" that bit the cruise ship does not appear to have been shoaling related. My guess is an old wreck that got pushed out of position somehow, or possibly the cruise ship got wide of the channel in the dark and moved something around when they hit it. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 Did they run into the transmission you dropped? I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm could have moved something around. Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship? |
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:24:12 -0500, HK wrote:
I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm could have moved something around. Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship? According to the news article they located the obstruction but have to send down divers to identify it. It would have to be a wreck or a rock in my opinion. There are a fair number of tree stumps and logs in that area but I don't think that would be enough to gash the hull. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship? Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave, generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder some distance at Peggys Cove. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:10:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money in it for dredging the waterway? That would be nice but I haven't heard anything about it. The "thing" that bit the cruise ship does not appear to have been shoaling related. My guess is an old wreck that got pushed out of position somehow, or possibly the cruise ship got wide of the channel in the dark and moved something around when they hit it. Poop happens. We had a cargo ship hit the 2nd tower on the San Francisco Bay bridge yesterday and it spilled 150K+ gallons of fuel oil. The quick response teams did not respond and some harbors are closed by oil booms and the coast is getting covered in oil. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:10:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money in it for dredging the waterway? That would be nice but I haven't heard anything about it. The "thing" that bit the cruise ship does not appear to have been shoaling related. My guess is an old wreck that got pushed out of position somehow, or possibly the cruise ship got wide of the channel in the dark and moved something around when they hit it. The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle of the ICW. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:59:20 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle of the ICW. Yes, but that was after the initial damage which went unnoticed until they started taking on water. |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:10:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:59:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle of the ICW. Yes, but that was after the initial damage which went unnoticed until they started taking on water. One of the more acceptable opinions about the Edmond Fitzgerald is that the hatches were leaking and it wasn't noticed until the ship started to list. Seems to be a common theme in these types of accidents. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 Did they run into the transmission you dropped? I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm could have moved something around. The winter storms in Lake Michigan and Lake Superior move some monster boulders very long distances, but I would be surprised if last weeks storm could have moved a large boulder in the ICW. You don't have enough fetch to really generate really powerful waves in the ICW. It will be interesting to see what they turn up. My guess is someone unloaded a derelict boat. |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:30:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933 Did they run into the transmission you dropped? I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm could have moved something around. The winter storms in Lake Michigan and Lake Superior move some monster boulders very long distances, but I would be surprised if last weeks storm could have moved a large boulder in the ICW. You don't have enough fetch to really generate really powerful waves in the ICW. It will be interesting to see what they turn up. My guess is someone unloaded a derelict boat. Three or four years ago, an oiler heading up to the Providence, RI fuel depot in Narragansett Bay hit something right along the starbord side of the navigation channel about 100 yards ESE to the T-wharf at Prudence Island. A slightly below average low tide was at ebb. Lo and behold, a wreck nobody knew was there. 130 foot long, partially wooden hull and partial steel super structure. Researchers can't seem to identify the ship other than to say that it shows aspects of being a coal collier and is at least 80 years old - possibly older. So you never know. :) |
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship? Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave, generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder some distance at Peggys Cove. That would be some wave... |
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I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too
close to the edge. :0 "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone. A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress. The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape Hatteras and the Outer Banks. http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...y=136626&ran=6 8933 |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship? Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave, generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder some distance at Peggys Cove. That would be some wave... I'll drive down before the weather turns for the worse and investigate. It's always a beautiful place to visit..... unless you're one of the small lake sailors here who are terrified by a 5 foot swell. |
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship? Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave, generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder some distance at Peggys Cove. That would be some wave... I'll drive down before the weather turns for the worse and investigate. It's always a beautiful place to visit..... unless you're one of the small lake sailors here who are terrified by a 5 foot swell. Bang your fist on that boulder and see if it is hollow! |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:
I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too close to the edge. Do you really believe that people run around on the water deliberately trying to wake sailboats? http://tinyurl.com/6hp2x |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too close to the edge. Do you really believe that people run around on the water deliberately trying to wake sailboats? Some do, it's a fact. Ask the GC. SBV |
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Scotty wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too close to the edge. Do you really believe that people run around on the water deliberately trying to wake sailboats? Some do, it's a fact. Ask the GC. SBV I've seen plenty of guys in floating RV-Condo boats coming down the ICW, oblivious to their wakes. They didn't give a damn they were damaging shell banks, or rocking the hell out of small boats along the way. Justice arrived when some of them ran aground on a sandbar a little south of where we lived near St. Augustine. |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 07, HK wrote:
I've seen plenty of guys in floating RV-Condo boats coming down the ICW, oblivious to their wakes. Not sure the type you're referring to but the worst around here are the 25'-35' space ship looking planing boats that run along half way up on plane. They'd do everybody a favor if they either speed up or slow down. Doesn't really matter which. Either way they'd leave a much smaller wake. And yes, they're totally oblivious to what they're doing. Rick |
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Not sure the type you're referring to but the worst around here are the 25'-35' space ship looking planing boats that run along half way up on plane. They'd do everybody a favor if they either speed up or slow down. Doesn't really matter which. Either way they'd leave a much smaller wake. And yes, they're totally oblivious to what they're doing. That's exactly what I get here on my river. And I have to believe they're oblivious, because it's disturbing to think that anyone would intentionally drive a boat around like that. |
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HK wrote in
: Scotty wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too close to the edge. Do you really believe that people run around on the water deliberately trying to wake sailboats? Some do, it's a fact. Ask the GC. SBV I've seen plenty of guys in floating RV-Condo boats coming down the ICW, oblivious to their wakes. They didn't give a damn they were damaging shell banks, or rocking the hell out of small boats along the way. Justice arrived when some of them ran aground on a sandbar a little south of where we lived near St. Augustine. I wrote a trip report (http://www.geoffschultz.org/Log_Page.php?id=980) talking about a spot just S of St. Augustine where we watched a small power boat go aground at full speed on a sand bar and then the couple proceeded to beat the crap out of one another while calling each other every name in the book. We called the marine patrol, but they never showed up. In that same report I lamented about travelling on the ICW on weekends. I complained about: Tons of boat traffic Jet skies that use you as a slalom course Boaters who don't know the rules Boaters who know the rules and just don't care A special case of the above is the Sports Fishing boats who have important places to be and pass close by throwing up 4' wakes Boaters who think that they're doing you a favor by going along at a slow pace, but their speed is such that their stern is as deep in the water as possible throwing up the maximum wake. I guess that falls under #3. Boats pulling skiers or people in tubes who fall right in front of you. Too many people drinking and boating -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message .. . Boaters who don't know the rules Boaters who know the rules and just don't care A special case of the above is the Sports Fishing boats who have important places to be and pass close by throwing up 4' wakes Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. SBV |
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Scotty wrote:
"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message .. . Boaters who don't know the rules Boaters who know the rules and just don't care A special case of the above is the Sports Fishing boats who have important places to be and pass close by throwing up 4' wakes Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. SBV Well, you can always put torn-up nets in their path. There's nothing like 100' of fishing net wrapped around the propshaft to slow down these inboard behemoths! |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:
Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:06:24 -0500, HK wrote:
Well, you can always put torn-up nets in their path. There's nothing like 100' of fishing net wrapped around the propshaft to slow down these inboard behemoths! How do we slow the outboard behemoths? |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Wayne... doesn't matter if it's intentional or not. You're responsible for your wake. Having a bigger boat doesn't absolve you of your responsibilities; it increases them. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Geez...what an arrogant ass you are. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. In my limited experience traveling the ICW I saw no "intentional" waking of a slower or smaller vessel by the larger boats, with one exception. A large sportsfish blew by us and others at full speed, ignoring all speed zones. I heard on the radio that he was coming and to watch out. He was caught further down the ICW about an hour later. To be truthful, I saw more sailboat operators running on their engine, ignoring the "rules of the road". Not all, but many refused to give way or slow down a bit to allow safe, minimal wake passing by large power boats. Most at least moved over a bit and waved us by, but more than a few simply ignored the fact that we intended to overtake them, despite radio calls or appropriate toots on the horn to signal intent. I see more crazy powerboat operation in a single weekend at the entrance to Scituate harbor during the summer than anything I witnessed on the ICW and the biggest offenders are in smaller, outboard or I/O powered boats. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Geez...what an arrogant ass you are. He's a 'professional boater'..don't ya know, heads & shoulders above the common weekend recreational types. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Geez...what an arrogant ass you are. Harry, there are some people on the ICW that you would have to drift by in neutral to satisfy. Most of them are sailboaters and local fishermen in jon boats sitting at anchor in the middle of the channel. On my trip, being the first time, I had studied up on all the rules and courtesies expected on the ICW. After a couple of days I realized that when others don't respect them and give you a one-finger salute instead ..... wake 'em! :-) Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. In my limited experience traveling the ICW I saw no "intentional" waking of a slower or smaller vessel by the larger boats, with one exception. A large sportsfish blew by us and others at full speed, ignoring all speed zones. I heard on the radio that he was coming and to watch out. He was caught further down the ICW about an hour later. To be truthful, I saw more sailboat operators running on their engine, ignoring the "rules of the road". Not all, but many refused to give way or slow down a bit to allow safe, minimal wake passing by large power boats. Most at least moved over a bit and waved us by, but more than a few simply ignored the fact that we intended to overtake them, despite radio calls or appropriate toots on the horn to signal intent. I see more crazy powerboat operation in a single weekend at the entrance to Scituate harbor during the summer than anything I witnessed on the ICW and the biggest offenders are in smaller, outboard or I/O powered boats. Eisboch When you have powerboaters like Wayne B., who says, "That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play," then you don't have to wonder whether there are ill-mannered guys out there who don't give a damn about the havoc their wakes cause." I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam about their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on Chesapeake Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its tributaries. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Geez...what an arrogant ass you are. Harry, there are some people on the ICW that you would have to drift by in neutral to satisfy. Most of them are sailboaters and local fishermen in jon boats sitting at anchor in the middle of the channel. On my trip, being the first time, I had studied up on all the rules and courtesies expected on the ICW. After a couple of days I realized that when others don't respect them and give you a one-finger salute instead ..... wake 'em! :-) Eisboch We lived in a house along the ICW for a number of years, and I spent a lot of time fishing along its banks and in its creeks. I saw - literally - hundreds of guys in large boats tossing up huge wakes and totally oblivious to where they were in time and space. I saw all manner of small boats swamped by these wakes, and I've seen the watercops chase after the slobs whose boats caused the damage. But that's neither here nor there. What does stand out is Wayne's arrogance. |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Geez...what an arrogant ass you are. Harry, there are some people on the ICW that you would have to drift by in neutral to satisfy. Most of them are sailboaters and local fishermen in jon boats sitting at anchor in the middle of the channel. On my trip, being the first time, I had studied up on all the rules and courtesies expected on the ICW. After a couple of days I realized that when others don't respect them and give you a one-finger salute instead ..... wake 'em! :-) Eisboch We lived in a house along the ICW for a number of years, and I spent a lot of time fishing along its banks and in its creeks. I saw - literally - hundreds of guys in large boats tossing up huge wakes and totally oblivious to where they were in time and space. I saw all manner of small boats swamped by these wakes, and I've seen the watercops chase after the slobs whose boats caused the damage. But that's neither here nor there. What does stand out is Wayne's arrogance. Arrogance is in the eye of the beholder. |
Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction Blocks Traffic
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:06:58 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:06:24 -0500, HK wrote: Well, you can always put torn-up nets in their path. There's nothing like 100' of fishing net wrapped around the propshaft to slow down these inboard behemoths! How do we slow the outboard behemoths? You don't. ~~ snerk ~~ |
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