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HK wrote:




Does he trailer that mystery boat from Lake Lanier?

If I had the time, I'd archive posts like this - for "giggles"!

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HK wrote:


Does he trailer that mystery boat from Lake Lanier?

He previously stated here that he does not have a trailer. He must
have a boat that converts to an airplane. ;-)



A flying boat!

Wish I were living along the Atlantic again, or closer to it than we are
now.

My wife is talking a bit about Hilton Head Island as a possible
retirement area. Gosh, *that* would break my heart.


Notice the smooth transition to narcissism. Well done, Krause!

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:25:30 -0500, HK wrote:

My wife is talking a bit about Hilton Head Island as a possible
retirement area. Gosh, *that* would break my heart.

Red neck country. You might not fit in.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:25:30 -0500, HK wrote:

My wife is talking a bit about Hilton Head Island as a possible
retirement area. Gosh, *that* would break my heart.

Red neck country. You might not fit in.


If there are rednecks on Hilton Head Isle, they are sweeping up.

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:56:17 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:25:30 -0500, HK wrote:

My wife is talking a bit about Hilton Head Island as a possible
retirement area. Gosh, *that* would break my heart.

Red neck country. You might not fit in.

If there are rednecks on Hilton Head Isle, they are sweeping up.

How ecumenical of you.

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" JimH" ask wrote in
:


If that is his purpose of being here..........too bad.

The problem is that he is failing.

There is no taking back what he said. Why you continue to defend him
is beyond me.



Mayhaps Wayne is getting fed up with the stupid "everyone else is
responsible for my irresponsibility" attitude of too many Americans.
Go on the water on a boat and you will need to deal with waves and
wakes...... from both sides.
Sure, there are idiots who have no knowledge and/or concern about their
potential for creating a problem with their wake....but their numbers are
equalled and exceeded by those idiots who have no knowledge or common sense
to realize that on the water, wakes/waves may cause them problems under
many conditions and it's up to them to handle those problems so that their
passengers and their vessel can proceed, safely.

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:42 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

I believe his attitude is
"Deal with It, I have the Bigger Boat".

Never said that.

You have missed my point somewhere along the line, obviously a failure
to communicate clearly on my part.

This "wake" business is not about "big boat vs small boat" or "who has
the bigger boat". That's not the point. The point I was trying to
make, and have apparently not yet succeded, is that wakes (and waves)
are part of being out there. Wakes (and waves) travel a long way from
their point of origin, and it is unreasonable to expect that no wakes
will ever be created. Contrary to the opinion of some, no one is out
there creating wakes just to make life miserable for others. And also
contrary to opinion, not all wakes are created by "large" boats, and
"large" is always relative to what you happen to be in at the moment.

As you may have correctly surmised, I have little sympathy for "wake
whiners".

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:42 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

I believe his attitude is
"Deal with It, I have the Bigger Boat".

Never said that.

You have missed my point somewhere along the line, obviously a failure
to communicate clearly on my part.

This "wake" business is not about "big boat vs small boat" or "who has
the bigger boat". That's not the point. The point I was trying to
make, and have apparently not yet succeded, is that wakes (and waves)
are part of being out there. Wakes (and waves) travel a long way from
their point of origin, and it is unreasonable to expect that no wakes
will ever be created. Contrary to the opinion of some, no one is out
there creating wakes just to make life miserable for others. And also
contrary to opinion, not all wakes are created by "large" boats, and
"large" is always relative to what you happen to be in at the moment.

As you may have correctly surmised, I have little sympathy for "wake
whiners".

Wayne,
He knows what you said, what is saying about you is the exact same thing
he used to say about Don and Harry. If you keep this up, he is going to
be your best buddy real soon.

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On 2007-11-12 19:33:41 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
said:

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen
a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying
to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is
leaving a wake larger than a container ship.

Agreement that the container ships leave less steep wakes that are no
problem, even when I am only a few boat lengths away (we're *on* the
channel, so sometimes have to wait for traffic to pass).

Have seen a few powerboats throw as high wakes, though, and they were
much more square-shouldered. THEY can cause problems when they pass
within a few hundred yards.

Side issue: Silliest thing I see on the Bay is the mid-size Sea Rays
(primarily) going along "on plane" with the bow ridiculously above the
helmsman's line of sight. They throw an enormous wake for their size
and speed and look so strange with their bows pointing up to the sky.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:07:10 -0000, otnmbrd
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in
:


If that is his purpose of being here..........too bad.

The problem is that he is failing.

There is no taking back what he said. Why you continue to defend him
is beyond me.

Mayhaps Wayne is getting fed up with the stupid "everyone else is
responsible for my irresponsibility" attitude of too many Americans.
Go on the water on a boat and you will need to deal with waves and
wakes...... from both sides.
Sure, there are idiots who have no knowledge and/or concern about their
potential for creating a problem with their wake....but their numbers are
equalled and exceeded by those idiots who have no knowledge or common sense
to realize that on the water, wakes/waves may cause them problems under
many conditions and it's up to them to handle those problems so that their
passengers and their vessel can proceed, safely.

Amen.

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:32:48 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Side issue: Silliest thing I see on the Bay is the mid-size Sea Rays
(primarily) going along "on plane" with the bow ridiculously above the
helmsman's line of sight. They throw an enormous wake for their size
and speed and look so strange with their bows pointing up to the sky.

And there's no reason for it either. All Searays have trim tabs, and
the I/O models also have adjustable tilt/trim on the outdrive. It is
relatively easy to trim them flat if you know what you're doing, and
fuel economy usually improves as a bonus.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:42:51 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
m...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed
as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels to SF bay.

Bow wave/wake - same damn thing in effect. :)

Nope, the sub bow wave is HUGE compared to any of the tanker wakes. Much
more affected by effect.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub
captain, an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's
driving a bait boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore
channels to SF bay.

You can doubt it all you wish. It was covered on the TV news in Jax, and
there were a couple of articles in the area newspapers.

I doubt he is driving a date barge.


Or a bait barge.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:07:10 -0000, otnmbrd
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in
:


If that is his purpose of being here..........too bad.

The problem is that he is failing.

There is no taking back what he said. Why you continue to defend him
is beyond me.

Mayhaps Wayne is getting fed up with the stupid "everyone else is
responsible for my irresponsibility" attitude of too many Americans.
Go on the water on a boat and you will need to deal with waves and
wakes...... from both sides.
Sure, there are idiots who have no knowledge and/or concern about their
potential for creating a problem with their wake....but their numbers are
equalled and exceeded by those idiots who have no knowledge or common
sense
to realize that on the water, wakes/waves may cause them problems under
many conditions and it's up to them to handle those problems so that their
passengers and their vessel can proceed, safely.

Amen.

All my years of boating, and I have only had one real problem with a large
commercial ship. Couple of years ago I am fishing in San Francisco Bay off
Angel Island. I am outside the channel a short distance. I see a tanker
coming under the San Rafael Bridge. No problem. Yes problem, he is empty
and cutting the corner and is outside the channel. I am in 23' of water, so
plenty of depth for him Unfortunately I forget I have the drift sock out
and drive over it, locking up the kicker prop and covering intake to the
jet. I get on the radio and call the ship and he actually turns to pass me
between the island and me. We both screwed up. Me forgetting the drift
sock and he cutting corners and hoping there is no idiot with a dead boat in
the way. But I was impressed with their seamanship. Biggest problem in the
bay is sailboats. They think they have the right of way over everything.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Unfortunately there's more than one. :-)

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:41:46 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I was impressed with their seamanship. Biggest problem in the
bay is sailboats. They think they have the right of way over everything.

There was an interesting incident a number of years ago on SF Bay
involving a very well known sailor and sailmaker named Lowell North.
He cut about 50 ft in front of a freighter during a sailboat race. The
freighter skipper reported him and he was fined a large amount by USCG
for failing to stay clear (it was in a traffic lane). North argued
that 50 ft was more than enough for safe passage in front of the ship
and that as an experienced racing skipper he had his vessel totally
under control.

The Coast Guard was not impressed.

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Could be the Wake Wussy Weenie Whiners.

Heh - it's starting to look like a truth table. :)

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.
I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)
It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)
Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Could be the Wake Wussy Weenie Whiners.

Heh - it's starting to look like a truth table. :)

Is there any truth that the WWWW suffer from LT Syndrome?

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:32 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:35:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:41 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

And then there are the Wussy Wake Whiner Weenies (4Ws) who should
really confine their boating to the bathtub.

I always thought it was the Whiney Wussy Wake Weenies.

Learn something new everyday. :)

It's good to know that someone appreciates my humor... :-)

Not the Weenie Whiney Wake Wussy?

Could be the Wake Wussy Weenie Whiners.

Heh - it's starting to look like a truth table. :)
No truth tables to be found in this group .

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:33:04 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:08:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Stop splitting hairs, Reggie. At really low speeds, my boat leaves a
practically flat wake that isn't going to cause any small boats nearby
any grief.
And how often do you run at really low speed?

We thought you were on the fast track, getting out to those fish as
quickly as possible. Virtually everyone I know with a boat that will
run at planing speeds can't wait to get up and moving because the ride
is so miserable at slow speed.

Obviously your circle is filled with jerks.

We spend some time exploring the smaller rivers and creeks around here,
and when we do, slow speeds are the way to go. My Parker rides just fine
at slow speeds, and at those speeds, you can barely hear the engine and
there is no exhaust smell. It's great being out in all that air, just a
few feet above the water. You see things you simply cannot see if you're
on an RV barge.

Of course, you wouldn't be able to take that oversized, diesel-smelling
barge into some of the waters we frequent...

What creeks and rivers do you explore? It's not like there are hundreds
around Breezy Point. Do idle all the way across the bay? Once you've been
up the Patuxent, the Severn, the South, etc, rivers, how often do you go
back? Hell, they don't change that much.


Get yourself a chart of the Bay.

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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:52:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast,
including the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?

Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)
I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.

The point is that your name is Jim Gallow.


And you are hilarious!
JimH's guessing what my real name is, isn't worth any comment what so
ever. I can remember when Harry used to use JimH's real name in
rec.boats and he was screaming about Harry stalking him and making
threats to his sick wife. When Chuck posted a link to JimH's ad where
he was selling his Vespa, he accussed Chuck of posting his telephone
number, even though he knew it did not include his number.

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:33:04 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:08:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Stop splitting hairs, Reggie. At really low speeds, my boat leaves a
practically flat wake that isn't going to cause any small boats nearby
any grief.

And how often do you run at really low speed?

We thought you were on the fast track, getting out to those fish as
quickly as possible. Virtually everyone I know with a boat that will
run at planing speeds can't wait to get up and moving because the ride
is so miserable at slow speed.


Obviously your circle is filled with jerks.

We spend some time exploring the smaller rivers and creeks around here,
and when we do, slow speeds are the way to go. My Parker rides just fine
at slow speeds, and at those speeds, you can barely hear the engine and
there is no exhaust smell. It's great being out in all that air, just a
few feet above the water. You see things you simply cannot see if you're
on an RV barge.

Of course, you wouldn't be able to take that oversized, diesel-smelling
barge into some of the waters we frequent...

What creeks and rivers do you explore? It's not like there are hundreds
around Breezy Point. Do idle all the way across the bay? Once you've been
up the Patuxent, the Severn, the South, etc, rivers, how often do you go
back? Hell, they don't change that much.

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:05:08 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right
to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or
get off ''his'' waters.

Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2.
============================

No whine before its time.

One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat"
implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if
any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I
suspected it.

That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away
from where the big boys play.


Geez...what an arrogant ass you are.

He's a 'professional boater'..don't ya know, heads & shoulders above the
common weekend recreational types.

Down boy! Good puppy!

Didn't WayneB tell you to clam up in another thread?
It worked on JohnH and I was really hoping it would make you straighten up
and fly straight.


How's your mom, Don? Haven't heard anything in a while. Is she doing OK?

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:45:18 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is
manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

Reggie has previously stated that he owns a house boat. I would guess he
cannot take wakes any larger than those produced by PWC.

Maybe that is why he spends all his boating time at the dock........you
know.......real boating hours. ;-)


Reading problems?

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:52:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast,
including the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?


Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)

I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.


The point is that your name is Jim Gallow.


And you are hilarious!

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:11:20 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side
of the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D
canal.... Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the
Elk with only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a
problem for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving
fairly flat wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship
channel, it usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.


Sure you have.

Harry,
Do you read what SWS said to Charile and BAR when they were accusing you
of not owning a lobster boat? It is just as boring and stupid when you
do the same thing.


Sorry, Reggie, but I don't pay much attention to the crap posted here by
the likes of BAR and Charile. In fact, I don't even recall a Charile.
Perhaps you like reading the posts of idiots on a regular basis, but I
do not.

There's no reason to believe you have a boat.

Harry, is there any reason to believe you own a 36' lobster style boat?

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:18:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:32:48 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Side issue: Silliest thing I see on the Bay is the mid-size Sea Rays
(primarily) going along "on plane" with the bow ridiculously above the
helmsman's line of sight. They throw an enormous wake for their size
and speed and look so strange with their bows pointing up to the sky.

And there's no reason for it either. All Searays have trim tabs, and
the I/O models also have adjustable tilt/trim on the outdrive. It is
relatively easy to trim them flat if you know what you're doing, and
fuel economy usually improves as a bonus.

Those are the guys that left Hummers in the parking lot. They are into the
'erection' look.

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John H. wrote:


'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.

I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.

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"John H." wrote in message
...


How's your mom, Don? Haven't heard anything in a while. Is she doing OK?


So..you just got back and are targeting me already!
I have to cut you a little slack...considering your Mickey Mouse cruises,
watching transformer movies and who knows what else.....
A logical person might deduce that you've slipped into your second
childhood. Should I book you a room at mom's nursing home?

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:26:45 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:52:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from
the Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast,
including the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?

Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)
I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.

The point is that your name is Jim Gallow.


And you are hilarious!
JimH's guessing what my real name is, isn't worth any comment what so
ever. I can remember when Harry used to use JimH's real name in
rec.boats and he was screaming about Harry stalking him and making
threats to his sick wife. When Chuck posted a link to JimH's ad where
he was selling his Vespa, he accussed Chuck of posting his telephone
number, even though he knew it did not include his number.

'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.

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" JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...


How's your mom, Don? Haven't heard anything in a while. Is she doing OK?


So..you just got back and are targeting me already!
I have to cut you a little slack...considering your Mickey Mouse cruises,
watching transformer movies and who knows what else.....
A logical person might deduce that you've slipped into your second
childhood. Should I book you a room at mom's nursing home?


He has been trying to bait me all day also Don. Too bad the old man has
decided against bringing harmony to the NG and comes here only to stir the
pot.


I think being forced to watch his 'Ps & Qs around the kids all week drives
him crazy. He comes back here with a lot of 'ugly' pent up and he's bursting
at the seams to relieve himself.

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:11:20 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:41 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:

'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.
I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.




Well, if you check Google, you'll see that Reginald Smithers is much more
famous than Jim Gallows. I've vowed to myself never to reveal any 'real'
names to anyone in the group, but I can say that I don't recall any Greek
characters in your name, but...Roman? That's another question.

I think the 'III' is quite appropriate. I also think Jim's post was quite
funny.

Speaking of boobies...both my daughters had a boobygram done and came up
negative. The younger had what the doctor called a 'suspicious spot', but a
biopsy came up negative. Thank God.

I think the correct term is Mammygram,,,,,


Where I live the call it a mammogram, but according to my wife it is
called a smashed-boobygram.

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:24:20 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:11:20 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:41 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:

'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.
I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.

Well, if you check Google, you'll see that Reginald Smithers is much more
famous than Jim Gallows. I've vowed to myself never to reveal any 'real'
names to anyone in the group, but I can say that I don't recall any Greek
characters in your name, but...Roman? That's another question.

I think the 'III' is quite appropriate. I also think Jim's post was quite
funny.

Speaking of boobies...both my daughters had a boobygram done and came up
negative. The younger had what the doctor called a 'suspicious spot', but a
biopsy came up negative. Thank God.

I think the correct term is Mammygram,,,,,

Where I live the call it a mammogram, but according to my wife it is
called a smashed-boobygram.

There are a lot of boobs in this thread.

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James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:24:20 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:11:20 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:41 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:

'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.
I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.

Well, if you check Google, you'll see that Reginald Smithers is much more
famous than Jim Gallows. I've vowed to myself never to reveal any 'real'
names to anyone in the group, but I can say that I don't recall any Greek
characters in your name, but...Roman? That's another question.

I think the 'III' is quite appropriate. I also think Jim's post was quite
funny.

Speaking of boobies...both my daughters had a boobygram done and came up
negative. The younger had what the doctor called a 'suspicious spot', but a
biopsy came up negative. Thank God.
I think the correct term is Mammygram,,,,,
Where I live the call it a mammogram, but according to my wife it is
called a smashed-boobygram.

There are a lot of boobs in this thread.

Jaime,
Not until you made this post. ;)

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:31:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:24:20 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:11:20 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:41 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:

'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.
I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.

Well, if you check Google, you'll see that Reginald Smithers is much more
famous than Jim Gallows. I've vowed to myself never to reveal any 'real'
names to anyone in the group, but I can say that I don't recall any Greek
characters in your name, but...Roman? That's another question.

I think the 'III' is quite appropriate. I also think Jim's post was quite
funny.

Speaking of boobies...both my daughters had a boobygram done and came up
negative. The younger had what the doctor called a 'suspicious spot', but a
biopsy came up negative. Thank God.
I think the correct term is Mammygram,,,,,

Where I live the call it a mammogram, but according to my wife it is
called a smashed-boobygram.

There are a lot of boobs in this thread.

Jaime,
Not until you made this post. ;)

I calls 'em likes I sees 'em...

BOOBIES!!!!

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:41 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:


'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.

I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.




Well, if you check Google, you'll see that Reginald Smithers is much more
famous than Jim Gallows. I've vowed to myself never to reveal any 'real'
names to anyone in the group, but I can say that I don't recall any Greek
characters in your name, but...Roman? That's another question.

I think the 'III' is quite appropriate. I also think Jim's post was quite
funny.

Speaking of boobies...both my daughters had a boobygram done and came up
negative. The younger had what the doctor called a 'suspicious spot', but a
biopsy came up negative. Thank God.

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:23:41 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:


'Gallows' humor?

The Vespa incident was humorous. I think that's when JimH first started
being 'anti-Chuck', as though Chuck gave a damn.

I wonder if it would make JimH feel better if I changed my handle to
"Jim Gallows"? If I did, I would prefer to have the III, just because I
like the way it looks. While there are people in rec.boats who know my
name, you are the only one who actually saw my name on the credit info
when I charged my contribution to the "Run for Boobies" charity.





Whoops. I spoke too soon. My younger hasn't had the biopsy yet. We'll find
out more about the end of the month.

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:24:20 -0500, Reginald Smithers III penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


Where I live the call it a mammogram, but according to my wife it is
called a smashed-boobygram.

Gotta admit, though... it *is* for Mammys.....


I always thought it was for me.