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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:14 -0500, BAR wrote:

Here's a candidate for admonishment. Any takers? Wayne, Tom...

And why not you?

For better or worse it is our group. Make it what you think it should
be.

To get respect you have to give respect. I will operate under this model
of behavior.

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HK wrote:



Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along
at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow
river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without
churning up a wake.

What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you
pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake.

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JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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otnmbrd wrote:
Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an
open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel,
doin about 10K.
All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a
fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back
but knew it was too late!
As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water
out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the
mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps.
Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw
was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of
directions......
Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South
who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst
part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we
were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the
worse our fit became!!!
To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he
finally gave up the chase!

It would have been really funny for you if someone in his boat had
drowned.
Sorta raises a question though. What is the purpose of the ICW? Is it
an inland waterway for boat traffic or is it a private fishing channel for
locals?

Eisboch


I say........both.



It actually was built as a commercial waterway, that allows rec.boaters
and fishing. A large barge, no matter what they do, will have a major
impact on rec.boaters, fishing from the shore and small boats, and on
the shoreline. A smart boater will stay out of the way of a barge.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:



Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along
at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow
river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without
churning up a wake.

What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you
pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake.


Not Harry's new boat. It just leaves "bubbles". :-)

Here's a good write up of my primary interest of this subject as it relates
to the ICW.
Of particular relevance to me is the "Perfect Pass" paragraphs.

One thing I learned about the ICW. Next time I'll run "outside" much more.
The ICW is interesting and I wanted to experience and see it but it can
become stressful and tiring trying to navigate, pass other boats, pass
private docks, watch out for fishermen etc. always in a courteous manner.
It seems no matter how careful you are, you are occasionally going to ****
somebody off.

http://www.cruisingworld.com/article...ID=419&catID=0

Eisboch

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:32:31 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:



Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along
at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow
river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without
churning up a wake.

What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you
pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake.


Not Harry's new boat. It just leaves "bubbles". :-)

Here's a good write up of my primary interest of this subject as it relates
to the ICW.
Of particular relevance to me is the "Perfect Pass" paragraphs.

One thing I learned about the ICW. Next time I'll run "outside" much more.
The ICW is interesting and I wanted to experience and see it but it can
become stressful and tiring trying to navigate, pass other boats, pass
private docks, watch out for fishermen etc. always in a courteous manner.
It seems no matter how careful you are, you are occasionally going to ****
somebody off.

http://www.cruisingworld.com/article...ID=419&catID=0

I've stayed out of this mostly because I have a different view.

Which I am NOT going to share. :)

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

Eisboch


When you have powerboaters like Wayne B., who says,
"That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away
from where the big boys play," then you don't have to wonder whether
there are ill-mannered guys out there who don't give a damn about the
havoc their wakes cause."

I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam
about their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on
Chesapeake Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its
tributaries.

Wakes do happen, and on a calm day can travel one hell of a long way. I
have been on the lake and been hit by a large wake, and have looked up
to see a boat that appears to be a mile away. If you made the ICW truly
wake free, you would have all boats creeping barely being able to steer.
If I am not in a no wake zone or 500 ft. from the shore or a anchored
boat, I really don't think about my wake, but I know I am making one,
and yes it can impact on the shoreline and boats tied up on a dock. If
you were honest with yourself, you would have to agree that your boat
does make a wake, and yes that wake has made some impact on other boats,
shorelines and docked boats.

How often have you been boating on the Bay with very little wind, yet
the bay is very choppy from everyone's wake.


Lots of times. The Bay is "choppy" as often as not, with or without the
wind, because of all the boat traffic, especially in the shallow inlet
bays. But "choppy" is a lot different than the huge waves some
semi-conscious a**holes create with their boat wakes near small boats.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring
along at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a
narrow river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to
without churning up a wake.

What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you
pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake.



Stop splitting hairs, Reggie. At really low speeds, my boat leaves a
practically flat wake that isn't going to cause any small boats nearby
any grief.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:29:06 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat
does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in
your case.
That seems uncalled for. What happened to "lead by example"?
Like politics, this discussion, although initially worthwhile, has run it's
course.

Eisboch

Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac
26X/M or a Carolina Skiff.
12-16 inches draft.
Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to
wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray
gas costs.

--Vic
These wake issue are a could reason to re-think a Mac 26. Without
proper ballast, and especially with the board up you'll be bobbing and
rolling like a cork.
Lee

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:59:15 -0500, Lee Rayl
wrote:

Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac
26X/M or a Carolina Skiff.
12-16 inches draft.
Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to
wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray
gas costs.

--Vic
These wake issue are a could reason to re-think a Mac 26. Without
proper ballast, and especially with the board up you'll be bobbing and
rolling like a cork.

Sounds like you have one of these Mac 26's.
Thanks for the advice.

--Vic

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:43:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've stayed out of this mostly because I have a different view.

Which I am NOT going to share. :)

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Why should you be different? :-)

PS, If you are concerned about your low wake, get a bigger, heavier
boat. It will make all the difference. :-) )