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On Oct 11, 7:32 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:10:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Never mind. The other option is to just let the windows go to hell, and replace them with modern ones sooner than I wanted to. Best move I ever made. I replaced 31 of them in one of our apartment houses to the new vinyl type. Saved me a ton of money on heating costs. But did they get you out of a jam you had talked yourself into?? |
#172
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:10:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Never mind. The other option is to just let the windows go to hell, and replace them with modern ones sooner than I wanted to. Best move I ever made. I replaced 31 of them in one of our apartment houses to the new vinyl type. Saved me a ton of money on heating costs. I'm in a "WTF to do at the moment" situation. I'll tell ya...I looked at the utility bills this morning and thought that if I considered ONLY the cost of the windows, and installing them myself, I could've justified it NOW. I'm positive they'd pay for themselves within a couple of years. But, for a number of reasons, there wasn't enough time to do the job this past summer. And, never having done it before, I'm nowhere near as fast as the pros. A two day job for them is probably a week for me. The other issue is the size of the windows here. They're weird. I'd have to show you pictures to illustrate.... |
#173
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:10:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Never mind. The other option is to just let the windows go to hell, and replace them with modern ones sooner than I wanted to. Best move I ever made. I replaced 31 of them in one of our apartment houses to the new vinyl type. Saved me a ton of money on heating costs. I'm in a "WTF to do at the moment" situation. I'll tell ya...I looked at the utility bills this morning and thought that if I considered ONLY the cost of the windows, and installing them myself, I could've justified it NOW. I'm positive they'd pay for themselves within a couple of years. But, for a number of reasons, there wasn't enough time to do the job this past summer. And, never having done it before, I'm nowhere near as fast as the pros. A two day job for them is probably a week for me. The other issue is the size of the windows here. They're weird. I'd have to show you pictures to illustrate.... I got buddy buddy with the new owner of a local vinyl window supplier. Over three or four years I replaced every window in the house save for a double vertical single hung unit in my kitchen and three small fixed 'piano style' windows.. 2 in my living room & one in my main bedroom. (will probably do those next spring) I get the owner to come out and measure the windows. I also have them weld on the wide j trim to replace the original 5 inch pine boards framing the old windows. What a difference...more comfortable in the house, electric heating cheaper and the windows don't frost up on me. Our handyman and I do the installations. (his day job is with the medical insurance company my wife does contract work for) All the windows he measured fit perfectly, the one I measured & ordered came about 1/8" too wide and I had to hack at the shingles a bit to fit it in. |
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:47:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:10:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Never mind. The other option is to just let the windows go to hell, and replace them with modern ones sooner than I wanted to. Best move I ever made. I replaced 31 of them in one of our apartment houses to the new vinyl type. Saved me a ton of money on heating costs. I'm in a "WTF to do at the moment" situation. I'll tell ya...I looked at the utility bills this morning and thought that if I considered ONLY the cost of the windows, and installing them myself, I could've justified it NOW. I'm positive they'd pay for themselves within a couple of years. But, for a number of reasons, there wasn't enough time to do the job this past summer. And, never having done it before, I'm nowhere near as fast as the pros. A two day job for them is probably a week for me. The other issue is the size of the windows here. They're weird. I'd have to show you pictures to illustrate.... The house we're in now have odd sized windows - when it was built, the builder did some hinky things and one of them was purchasing odd lot windows for a development. We managed to get the house with all the left overs. It's not hard to remove and replace. Do one and you've got the technique down for the rest - it's just a question of measuring properly when you order the windows. Once you've got that done, piece of cake. I did this house, 13 windows, in one day - 10 hours of work. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:47:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:10:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Never mind. The other option is to just let the windows go to hell, and replace them with modern ones sooner than I wanted to. Best move I ever made. I replaced 31 of them in one of our apartment houses to the new vinyl type. Saved me a ton of money on heating costs. I'm in a "WTF to do at the moment" situation. I'll tell ya...I looked at the utility bills this morning and thought that if I considered ONLY the cost of the windows, and installing them myself, I could've justified it NOW. I'm positive they'd pay for themselves within a couple of years. But, for a number of reasons, there wasn't enough time to do the job this past summer. And, never having done it before, I'm nowhere near as fast as the pros. A two day job for them is probably a week for me. The other issue is the size of the windows here. They're weird. I'd have to show you pictures to illustrate.... The house we're in now have odd sized windows - when it was built, the builder did some hinky things and one of them was purchasing odd lot windows for a development. We managed to get the house with all the left overs. It's not hard to remove and replace. Do one and you've got the technique down for the rest - it's just a question of measuring properly when you order the windows. Once you've got that done, piece of cake. I did this house, 13 windows, in one day - 10 hours of work. The measuring would be the first challenge. Never having seen this house "naked" (framed, without coverings), I'm not sure how to measure. In my son's harem is a girl whose dad is a carpenter. I may see if he's interested in a teamwork situation, like the one you described. Speaking of teenagers, my son just left with a friend from his dorm. The friend tried to get out the door ahead of my son, and took 45 seconds to open the screen door. My son's enough of an observer that he didn't say a word while this went on. He turned around and gave me this "I wonder how long this will take" look. The friend finally figured out that the latch needed to be turned instead of pushed. His friend's a physics major. NASA beware. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:20:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... If your daughter was raped and you started talking to her about statistics, I wonder how she'd react. See? The rape thing again. Eisboch It's important because there are cults which think they can dictate the options available to a rape victim. You can't exclude inconvenient facts from the discussion, unless you'd like to say it's over for now. My point is that the majority of abortions, I believe, are performed not because of a rape, but because a resulting pregnancy following voluntary sex where no precautions were taken happens to be embarrassing or inconvenient. Rape is a different issue and much more difficult to resolve in my mind, although I'd probably go along with having abortion a legal option in it's case or in the event of a problematic pregnancy whereby the mother's life may be in danger. But to give everyone via legalized abortion, (call it pro-choice or whatever) a free pass because they didn't act responsibly is not right in my mind. Whatever happened to the fathers with shotguns? Eisboch I do not understand that response. Either the fetus is a human or it isn't. If it is not a human, but simply an accumulation of cells like an appendix or a mole, then why would you be against abortion? Clearly in that case it is the woman's right to decide what to do with that inconvenient lump of cells. You don't need reasons to admit to that right. Whether there was a rape or not is immaterial. Whether the lump of cells is wanted or not is immaterial. Whether the lump of cells may some day be retarded is immaterial. However, if it is a human being then what does the rape of the mother have to do with it? If the baby had already been born and the mother said she had been raped would you allow her to kill the baby? There is only one question surrounding abortion in my opinion. That is whether or not (and possibly at what point) the lump of cells is a human being and not an appendix. The answer to that question fully drives the answer to virtually all subsequent abortion questions. My problem with defining my own position on abortion is trying to come to grips with the "when" question. Clearly it is a human a second after delivery. I can find nothing that changes that 5 minutes earlier, 5 hours earlier, 5 days earlier or 5 weeks earlier. Yet by the same token I can accept that upon fertilization but before attachment to the uterine wall it is not human (which conveniently allows me to fully accept the Pill which keeps a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall) but I find myself without any rational basis for making a distinction past that point, as much as I want to. What I do know, for reasons I won't go into too deeply, is that if abortion was legal and readily available for rape victims in 1928, I would not exist since my mother would have been aborted. I also know that if abortion was legal and readily available in 1957, I would not exist as I was a bit of an unplanned inconvenience. Obviously then my beautiful children and grandchildren would not exist. Some may say upon reading this that my non-existence would have been a boon to humanity - oh well. Enough from me. Dave Hall |
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