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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:45:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:11:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.
I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.
One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6 rounds
to the range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good
idea.
All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods. For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.
I wouldn't "carry" a semi without a real safety, either, though I do
like shooting a Glock at the range. Is that a single or double action
.357?
single action hammerless.

Wouldn't want it to get caught on the shirt. :)

Geeez. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a SA hammerless .357 mag. But
there's a lot of pistols I've not seen. If it is hammerless, how do you
cock it?
Oy.

You don't cock it.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ion&fam lst=9

Thank you.

Intersting Harry has never seen one. They are pretty common.


As I said, the only SA action revolvers I have handled were
"traditional." The photo on the page you reference there seems to be a
DA ruger.

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:52:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

I work with BCs here in and around golf courses and haven't ever had
that problem.

It's all in how the dogs are trained.

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:53:22 -0400, HK wrote:

He said it was SA. I don't have that much experience with revolvers, but
all the SA revolvers I have handled required that one cock the hammer
before one could fire the trigger.

Um...no?

Never said it was an SA.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:53:22 -0400, HK wrote:

He said it was SA. I don't have that much experience with revolvers, but
all the SA revolvers I have handled required that one cock the hammer
before one could fire the trigger.

Um...no?

Never said it was an SA.


Yeah, you did.

I wouldn't "carry" a semi without a real safety, either, though I do
like shooting a Glock at the range. Is that a single or double
action .357?




Your response:

"single action hammerless.

Wouldn't want it to get caught on the shirt. :)"

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:45:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:11:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.
I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.
One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds to the range, no matter what kind of handgun you're
shooting. Good idea.
All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.
I wouldn't "carry" a semi without a real safety, either, though I do
like shooting a Glock at the range. Is that a single or double action
.357?
single action hammerless.

Wouldn't want it to get caught on the shirt. :)

Geeez. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a SA hammerless .357 mag. But
there's a lot of pistols I've not seen. If it is hammerless, how do you
cock it?
Oy.

You don't cock it.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ion&fam lst=9

Thank you.

Intersting Harry has never seen one. They are pretty common.


As I said, the only SA action revolvers I have handled were "traditional."
The photo on the page you reference there seems to be a DA ruger.


I think you're losing track of the discussion. You said this:

"Geeez. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a SA hammerless .357 mag. But
there's a lot of pistols I've not seen. If it is hammerless, how do you cock
it?"

OK now? That's what we were responding to. However, to be fair, I ignored
"SA" because it wasn't relevant, compared to "hammerless". Obviously, the
two ideas don't belong together, and "SA" has no relevance to this
discussion.

Oh deer!
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:45:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:11:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.
I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.
One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds to the range, no matter what kind of handgun you're
shooting. Good idea.
All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.
I wouldn't "carry" a semi without a real safety, either, though I do
like shooting a Glock at the range. Is that a single or double action
.357?
single action hammerless.

Wouldn't want it to get caught on the shirt. :)
Geeez. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a SA hammerless .357 mag. But
there's a lot of pistols I've not seen. If it is hammerless, how do you
cock it?
Oy.

You don't cock it.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ion&fam lst=9
Thank you.

Intersting Harry has never seen one. They are pretty common.

As I said, the only SA action revolvers I have handled were "traditional."
The photo on the page you reference there seems to be a DA ruger.


I think you're losing track of the discussion. You said this:

"Geeez. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a SA hammerless .357 mag. But
there's a lot of pistols I've not seen. If it is hammerless, how do you cock
it?"

OK now? That's what we were responding to. However, to be fair, I ignored
"SA" because it wasn't relevant, compared to "hammerless". Obviously, the
two ideas don't belong together, and "SA" has no relevance to this
discussion.




It did to me. Tom said he carried a single action hammerless revolver.
I was curious how he cocked it. So there!

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

**snip**

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

I think you need to check again. A .357 will chamber a .38 special, a .38
special CANNOT chamber a .357. The .357 case is quite a bit longer than a
..38.

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:37:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



The trigger finger *always* points straight forward as the gun is drawn from
the holster. Always. Nobody taught that guy correctly. And, a correctly
designed holster completely encloses the trigger guard.

If I liked everything else about a gun, the presence of a safety wouldn't
keep me from buying it. Another "safety" involves not carrying with a round
in the chamber. With practice, you can work the slide *very* fast without
interrupting things.


Hmmm. You a cop? Nice disguise.

--Vic

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

**SNIP**

I think you're losing track of the discussion. You said this:

"Geeez. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a SA hammerless .357 mag. But
there's a lot of pistols I've not seen. If it is hammerless, how do you
cock it?"

OK now? That's what we were responding to. However, to be fair, I ignored
"SA" because it wasn't relevant, compared to "hammerless". Obviously, the
two ideas don't belong together, and "SA" has no relevance to this
discussion.

SA = Single Action, the hammer MUST be cocked for each shot (assuming a
revolver), DA = Double Action it can be fired with a pull of the trigger
only or (if it has a hammer) in SA mode to reduce the trigger pull..

Harrys comment was completely relevant. It is the distinction that makes the
difference.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:37:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


The trigger finger *always* points straight forward as the gun is drawn from
the holster. Always. Nobody taught that guy correctly. And, a correctly
designed holster completely encloses the trigger guard.

If I liked everything else about a gun, the presence of a safety wouldn't
keep me from buying it. Another "safety" involves not carrying with a round
in the chamber. With practice, you can work the slide *very* fast without
interrupting things.


Hmmm. You a cop? Nice disguise.

--Vic


Joe isn't wrong. I have a custom molder "hard plastic" holster for my
Sig. When the handgun is in the holster, you simply cannot get a finger
or anything else onto the trigger to pull it, because the trigger guard
is completely covered by the holster.

Here's a photo of my Sig:

http://tinyurl.com/35ebuf


The black lever fully on the frame just below the hammer is the safety.

I'll have to see if I have a photo of the handgun in its Blade-Tech
holster. When it is, you simply do not see the trigger or trigger guard.
They are covered.

I only have a round in the pipe when I am out in the forest where the
feral dogs and bears live. With a round chambered, there's room for 19
additional rounds in the magazine.

If a round is not chambered, I can cycle the slide and get a round in
the pipe as fast as you can blink an eye, or thereabouts.