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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I don't know what their problems is, but when it takes a kid or small
child, I'm not going to say I told you so.

There is DNA evidence that their are Mtn. Lions in the NE in general and
New England, the question is if they are wildlife or captive animals
released into the wild. If the Mtn. Lion is roaming your local woods,
it really doesn't matter.

http://www.theheartofnewengland.com/...tainlions.html

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04151/324253.stm

http://farshores.org/c_mlion2.htm

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DownTime wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=67160&fr=yvmtf


This ought to rile up the mindless inlanders.


Onions, cajun spice, 6 rounds, BLAM! Should be easy to get at least
two of them.

You LIKE to eat them things? Not me, I've tried deer a few times, always
from someone who likes to hunt "Here try this, it's my secret recipe".
or "It's the wife's speciality". Never once did I go back for seconds.
For me, it is all and always too gamey. I may try it again someday, but
that's unlikely.

I have had Brunswick stew made from venison, it was ok, but nothing
special. I am told that the key to get rid of the gameyness is to
marinade the meat. I am just glad that some people enjoy venison,
because the herd definitely needs thinning out.

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:44 -0400, john penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


There are more deer now in the USA than there ever have been. Their natural
predators have been eliminated and hunting is not allowed in urban areas.
So the deer have learned that they are safe if they stay close to humans in
urban areas. If they stray too far into the country, they end up in
someones freezer.


This is a new rule and nobody has signed on, yet, but it could happen.
An Urban Bow & Arrow Season!
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg02_Regs/...ason_Dates.pdf

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:44 -0400, john penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

There are more deer now in the USA than there ever have been. Their natural
predators have been eliminated and hunting is not allowed in urban areas.
So the deer have learned that they are safe if they stay close to humans in
urban areas. If they stray too far into the country, they end up in
someones freezer.


This is a new rule and nobody has signed on, yet, but it could happen.
An Urban Bow & Arrow Season!
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg02_Regs/...ason_Dates.pdf


Gene,
There are many public and private lakes (including those run by the C of
E's ) that are now allowing or hiring hunters to kill the Canadian Geese
that are no longer migrating due to people feeding them. These geese
have taken over coves and lakes that would have been a brief stopover on
their migratory path, until people thought it would be cute or helpful
to feed them.

I have seen these geese killed in mass, and it really is not a pretty
sight. When people feed wildlife, they are removing the animals nature
fear of humans, and it is a recipe for disaster for both the humans they
meet and the animals themselves. Harry might think it is cute to feed
wildlife, but unfortunately it does not only effect Harry. When an
animal bites a neighbor or become sick from not eating a proper diet, it
is the animal who will be killed or ends up suffering, not the person
who is responsible for this behavior or their inability to fend for
themselves.

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wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:13:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

You laugh, but State surveyors have started carrying .45 Glocks. And
one of the local engineering firms have their surveyors carry 9mm
Glocks when they are working in the woods.

Nothing to do with mountain lions though. :)


They think they are going to stop a mountain lion in any meaningful
manner with a 9mm?


Maybe they view 9mm in the same way as some police departments: Shoot many,
many rounds, miss with most, hope the noise gets the target under control.

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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:29:44 -0000, Tim wrote:

On Sep 5, 3:54 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:43:10 -0000, wrote:
On Sep 5, 3:38 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Sep 5, 3:27 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

On Sep 5, 12:54 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:34?am, tsi-yu wrote:
They are all semi tame. Not much sport

in shooting caged bambis.

Make that BAM(!)-bye.

More and more people can live a lifetime without actually encountering
any wildlife.

On this coast, more and more wild animals are coming back. I never saw
hawks in groups of dozen or coyotes and even bears and lot's of other
animals and I spent a lot of time in the woods and fields as a kid.
Now, coyotes are quite common all over the state of CT, I have been
face to face by the lake. Bears in in NW CT, and even Fisher Cats,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_(animal)

in the east are making a comback. Deer, and wild turkeys by the
score, are not uncommon in Essex, although I have not seen signs of
Fox since I have been up north, but I am sure they are still around.

I beleive hunting bans are hurting, not helping in many cases. And I
do not hunt. gut, clean, eat, sure, just don't ask me to shoot it;)

I'm apparently running a zoo here. I've got two coyotes, a huge fox and
two
small ones, a skunk and some babies, a dozen deer, and a few turkeys (not
counting my neighbor across the street who's always trying to kill
himself
with his extension ladder). I'm happy to have the skunks. I understand
they're fond of grubs, and better mousers than cats, something I
witnessed
for the first time last week. Normally, they poke around the lawn at
night,
moving maybe an inch every 30 seconds. But one night, I stepped out onto
the
porch and a skunk came jetting out of nowhere, into the groundcover two
feet
from the porch. I've never seen a skunk move that fast - like a cat. I
just
stood real still until it left.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, well a frekin' skunk got my dog one day and before we knew the
dog came in the house, what a frekin' mess as she sneased and rolled
all over the place. This however was some kind of nulear skunk, it
smelled like burnt rubber more than any other skunk I had ever smelled
in my life and I an not usually that adverse to the smell of good
skunk, but that's another story, this was different, and just hurt
your nose. It took us weeks to get the smell out of everything, the
stove, carpet, my old pipe, evrything was tainted. A few weeks later
we heard squealing of brakes and as we looked outside we noticed our
"friend" was now road kill. Send us to hell, but as a family we all
stood at the window and cheered;) I don't care how many grubs they
eat. You can have em'.

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As always, my dog was doing exactly what I told it to do. Which in
this case was go outside for a potty. So apparently it was my fault,
so be it. I won anyway, guess there is really no justice when it comes
to skunks;) They should talk to my kid, I am sure she can find a lobby
group to represent them:(

Skunks make nice pets. I had one as a kid. It wasn't descented. It got out
of its cage (a room in the barn) and got on the neighbor's back porch. The
neighbor opened the porch door and scared the poor skunk (Blackie was its
name.) Blackie opened fire.

The neighbor called my dad. I did some heavy begging and got another
chance. So did the skunk. Within a few days, the neighbor called again.
Yup, skunk had opened fire again. This time all my begging did no good. Dad
shot the skunk.

When skunks get shot, everything inside comes outside. I got to clean up
the mess and bury Blackie. Sad day. Luckily I caught a baby pigeon within a
few days and cheered up.

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Some people feed them, some people are fed by them.

I'd jsut as soon eat one than have it fly though my windshield.

A skunk or a pigeon?

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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:27:29 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:38:57 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

we are seeing less and less Bambi's in California. Since the eco-nuts have
protected the mountain lion, they have done what cats have always done.
Make lots more cats. Now they run out of deer to eat, and take out pets and
a few hikers. We have endangered Desert Big Horn sheep. Most every
fatality of the decreaseing numbers is caused by mountain lions. Which are
not that rare here.

That's interesting, because we're seeing the opposite effect here.

The deer herd in CT is higher than it was 50 years ago and in the last
10 years it's expoloded - consider that in 1970 it was 20,000 head.
2000 it was close to 135.000 and estimates that it could go as high as
175,000 by 2010 were wrong - they reached that mark last year.

Natural predation is present from coyotes to small feral dog/coyote
hybrids and recently, there have been cougar and large bobcat spoor in
the area and in other areas of the state. Their impact is small
however and the herd keeps growing. Last year was the first open
season on doe and there's talk of another open season on doe this
year.

With all due respect to Harry, feeding the deer is a incredibly
ignorant thing to do. Quite beyond taking them to relate to humanity,
there is the danger of bacterial infection to humans from exposure to
deer hemorrhagic disease. Not to mention Lyme Disease.

Not a smart thing to do.


We had a choice...feed the homeless deer or feed the homeless
Republicans. We made the right choice.

Another 'foible' to be overlooked.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:13:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

You laugh, but State surveyors have started carrying .45 Glocks. And
one of the local engineering firms have their surveyors carry 9mm
Glocks when they are working in the woods.

Nothing to do with mountain lions though. :)

They think they are going to stop a mountain lion in any meaningful
manner with a 9mm?


Maybe they view 9mm in the same way as some police departments: Shoot many,
many rounds, miss with most, hope the noise gets the target under control.




Most of the cops I see at the range are really *lousy* shots, no matter
what they are shooting. I suppose that's why it takes so many of them to
kill with 41 shots some poor immigrant they catch in an apartment
building foyer doing nothing more deadly than pulling out his wallet and
ID. But, hey, if they completely miss with their guns, they can always
take him back to the stationhouse and shove a broomstick up his butt.

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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:26:44 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:44 -0400, john penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

There are more deer now in the USA than there ever have been. Their natural
predators have been eliminated and hunting is not allowed in urban areas.
So the deer have learned that they are safe if they stay close to humans in
urban areas. If they stray too far into the country, they end up in
someones freezer.


This is a new rule and nobody has signed on, yet, but it could happen.
An Urban Bow & Arrow Season!
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg02_Regs/...ason_Dates.pdf


Gene,
There are many public and private lakes (including those run by the C of
E's ) that are now allowing or hiring hunters to kill the Canadian Geese
that are no longer migrating due to people feeding them. These geese
have taken over coves and lakes that would have been a brief stopover on
their migratory path, until people thought it would be cute or helpful
to feed them.

I have seen these geese killed in mass, and it really is not a pretty
sight. When people feed wildlife, they are removing the animals nature
fear of humans, and it is a recipe for disaster for both the humans they
meet and the animals themselves. Harry might think it is cute to feed
wildlife, but unfortunately it does not only effect Harry. When an
animal bites a neighbor or become sick from not eating a proper diet, it
is the animal who will be killed or ends up suffering, not the person
who is responsible for this behavior or their inability to fend for
themselves.

I don't disagree with what you have written, but I don't necessarily
think it is that simple. The animals were here first, and when we
destroy their habitat they make do with what is left.... whether it is
our lawn, our vegetable garden, or our flowers.

Other problems have been created by eliminating certain predators....
and irrationally restricting the harvesting of some animals. (While
allowing commercial harvesting of others to the point of
extinction...(for both hunter and prey...eg. the extinct NC
Oysterman.))

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