Oh deer!
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:51:40 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:38:57 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


we are seeing less and less Bambi's in California. Since the eco-nuts
have protected the mountain lion, they have done what cats have always
done. Make lots more cats. Now they run out of deer to eat, and take
out pets and a few hikers. We have endangered Desert Big Horn sheep.
Most every fatality of the decreaseing numbers is caused by mountain
lions. Which are not that rare here.
All the bureaucracies keep denying, but I've been reading of quite a few
sightings of mountain lions east
of the Mississippi. Except for the Florida Panther, mountain lions are
supposed to be extirpated in the
east, but I'm starting to doubt it.
Don't EVEN get me started on that.

Ooops - to late. :)

Three years ago when I still had Duke Dogge Dog, I got a call from TK
up the street asking me to bring my M1 carbine up because he had a big
cat in his heifer pen. I said you mean bobcat, and he said no -
mountain lion.

Uh uh...


We're hearing the same denial from the NY DEC, despite some rather large
evidence from experienced trackers.

When the occasional hippy tells me I'm paranoid for carrying a gun when I'm
hiking into remote fishing areas, I am tempted to pee on their shoes.



I always "carry" when I'm out on the trails near the Shenandoah. There
have been large cat sightings, but the real threat comes from packs of
feral dogs. My buddy's property out there has a genuine bear cave on it,
and he's found remnants of deer nearby, but he's not seen the bears and
doesn't know what killed and ate the deer.

One of my neighbors here claims to have seen a bear tramping through the
woods, but I'm not sure about that. I've seen a couple of really large
critters off in the distance, too, but I think they were just dogs,
though I like to think they were bears. We do have lots of foxes,
raccoons, possums, groundhogs, squirrels, pheasants, wild turkeys, et
cetera, around here, along with all the "domesticated" horses, cattle,
sheep, goats, llamas, ducks, geese and dogs and cats.

Oh deer!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:05:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:51:40 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:38:57 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


we are seeing less and less Bambi's in California. Since the eco-nuts
have protected the mountain lion, they have done what cats have always
done. Make lots more cats. Now they run out of deer to eat, and take
out pets and a few hikers. We have endangered Desert Big Horn sheep.
Most every fatality of the decreaseing numbers is caused by mountain
lions. Which are not that rare here.

All the bureaucracies keep denying, but I've been reading of quite a few
sightings of mountain lions east
of the Mississippi. Except for the Florida Panther, mountain lions are
supposed to be extirpated in the
east, but I'm starting to doubt it.

Don't EVEN get me started on that.

Ooops - to late. :)

Three years ago when I still had Duke Dogge Dog, I got a call from TK
up the street asking me to bring my M1 carbine up because he had a big
cat in his heifer pen. I said you mean bobcat, and he said no -
mountain lion.

Uh uh...

We're hearing the same denial from the NY DEC, despite some rather large
evidence from experienced trackers.

When the occasional hippy tells me I'm paranoid for carrying a gun when
I'm
hiking into remote fishing areas, I am tempted to pee on their shoes.

You laugh, but State surveyors have started carrying .45 Glocks. And
one of the local engineering firms have their surveyors carry 9mm
Glocks when they are working in the woods.

Nothing to do with mountain lions though. :)

Uh uh...

For me, it began with some slimeball on a creek. I'd left my tackle box on
the bank about 100' away. I turned around and found this guy opening it. We
had a talk. He went away. I applied for the pistol permit two days later.

A DEC game warden and a trooper in the Adirondack park told me they'd never
go unarmed into the woods there. Too many ferile dogs. "Bite me and let's
see what happens" is not an acceptable test for rabies, unless you're
stupid.

Oh deer!
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:17:54 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:51:40 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:38:57 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


we are seeing less and less Bambi's in California. Since the eco-nuts
have protected the mountain lion, they have done what cats have always
done. Make lots more cats. Now they run out of deer to eat, and take
out pets and a few hikers. We have endangered Desert Big Horn sheep.
Most every fatality of the decreaseing numbers is caused by mountain
lions. Which are not that rare here.
All the bureaucracies keep denying, but I've been reading of quite a few
sightings of mountain lions east
of the Mississippi. Except for the Florida Panther, mountain lions are
supposed to be extirpated in the
east, but I'm starting to doubt it.
Don't EVEN get me started on that.

Ooops - to late. :)

Three years ago when I still had Duke Dogge Dog, I got a call from TK
up the street asking me to bring my M1 carbine up because he had a big
cat in his heifer pen. I said you mean bobcat, and he said no -
mountain lion.

Uh uh...


We're hearing the same denial from the NY DEC, despite some rather large
evidence from experienced trackers.

When the occasional hippy tells me I'm paranoid for carrying a gun when I'm
hiking into remote fishing areas, I am tempted to pee on their shoes.



I always "carry" when I'm out on the trails near the Shenandoah. There
have been large cat sightings, but the real threat comes from packs of
feral dogs. My buddy's property out there has a genuine bear cave on it,
and he's found remnants of deer nearby, but he's not seen the bears and
doesn't know what killed and ate the deer.

How do you know the bear cave is genuine? Does it have a plaque?

One of my neighbors here claims to have seen a bear tramping through the
woods, but I'm not sure about that. I've seen a couple of really large
critters off in the distance, too, but I think they were just dogs,
though I like to think they were bears. We do have lots of foxes,
raccoons, possums, groundhogs, squirrels, pheasants, wild turkeys, et
cetera, around here, along with all the "domesticated" horses, cattle,
sheep, goats, llamas, ducks, geese and dogs and cats.

Guess I'm lucky Illinois isn't so wild like the jungles of the NE U.S.
and the African savannahs.
I just "carry" my Star Trek II phaser ray gun to ward off UFO's.
Boring.

--Vic

Oh deer!
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:17:54 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:51:40 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:38:57 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


we are seeing less and less Bambi's in California. Since the eco-nuts
have protected the mountain lion, they have done what cats have always
done. Make lots more cats. Now they run out of deer to eat, and take
out pets and a few hikers. We have endangered Desert Big Horn sheep.
Most every fatality of the decreaseing numbers is caused by mountain
lions. Which are not that rare here.
All the bureaucracies keep denying, but I've been reading of quite a few
sightings of mountain lions east
of the Mississippi. Except for the Florida Panther, mountain lions are
supposed to be extirpated in the
east, but I'm starting to doubt it.
Don't EVEN get me started on that.

Ooops - to late. :)

Three years ago when I still had Duke Dogge Dog, I got a call from TK
up the street asking me to bring my M1 carbine up because he had a big
cat in his heifer pen. I said you mean bobcat, and he said no -
mountain lion.

Uh uh...

We're hearing the same denial from the NY DEC, despite some rather large
evidence from experienced trackers.

When the occasional hippy tells me I'm paranoid for carrying a gun when I'm
hiking into remote fishing areas, I am tempted to pee on their shoes.


I always "carry" when I'm out on the trails near the Shenandoah. There
have been large cat sightings, but the real threat comes from packs of
feral dogs. My buddy's property out there has a genuine bear cave on it,
and he's found remnants of deer nearby, but he's not seen the bears and
doesn't know what killed and ate the deer.

How do you know the bear cave is genuine? Does it have a plaque?

One of my neighbors here claims to have seen a bear tramping through the
woods, but I'm not sure about that. I've seen a couple of really large
critters off in the distance, too, but I think they were just dogs,
though I like to think they were bears. We do have lots of foxes,
raccoons, possums, groundhogs, squirrels, pheasants, wild turkeys, et
cetera, around here, along with all the "domesticated" horses, cattle,
sheep, goats, llamas, ducks, geese and dogs and cats.

Guess I'm lucky Illinois isn't so wild like the jungles of the NE U.S.
and the African savannahs.
I just "carry" my Star Trek II phaser ray gun to ward off UFO's.
Boring.

--Vic



The bear cave is genuine. A ranger came out one day to examine the cave,
tracks, stool, and some of the remains of eaten animals, and determined
there were bears living in the cave off and on.

We live out in the country next to woods, forests, farms and Chesapeake
Bay. Lots of wildlife.

Oh deer!
 

"DownTime" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=67160&fr=yvmtf


This ought to rile up the mindless inlanders.


Onions, cajun spice, 6 rounds, BLAM! Should be easy to get at least two
of them.
You LIKE to eat them things? Not me, I've tried deer a few times, always
from someone who likes to hunt "Here try this, it's my secret recipe". or
"It's the wife's speciality". Never once did I go back for seconds. For
me, it is all and always too gamey. I may try it again someday, but
that's unlikely.


I've had venison cooked well, and cooked badly. The latter came from guys
who probably can't make toast without poking themselves in the eye. :-)

Oh deer!
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=67160&fr=yvmtf


This ought to rile up the mindless inlanders.


Onions, cajun spice, 6 rounds, BLAM! Should be easy to get at least two of
them.


You LIKE to eat them things? Not me, I've tried deer a few times, always
from someone who likes to hunt "Here try this, it's my secret recipe".
or "It's the wife's speciality". Never once did I go back for seconds.
For me, it is all and always too gamey. I may try it again someday, but
that's unlikely.

Oh deer!
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:




The bear cave is genuine. A ranger came out one day to examine the cave,
tracks, stool, and some of the remains of eaten animals, and determined
there were bears living in the cave off and on.

Was the ranger alone except for the guy with red skin?
Your story is beginning to make sense.

We live out in the country next to woods, forests, farms and Chesapeake
Bay. Lots of wildlife.

Same here on the wildlife, but without the other stuff.
Oh, and the wildlife is mostly skunks, squirrels, and mice.

--Vic

Oh deer!
 

DownTime wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=67160&fr=yvmtf


This ought to rile up the mindless inlanders.


Onions, cajun spice, 6 rounds, BLAM! Should be easy to get at least
two of them.

You LIKE to eat them things? Not me, I've tried deer a few times, always
from someone who likes to hunt "Here try this, it's my secret recipe".
or "It's the wife's speciality". Never once did I go back for seconds.
For me, it is all and always too gamey. I may try it again someday, but
that's unlikely.


Ditto.

Oh deer!
 

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:52:35 -0400, DownTime
wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=67160&fr=yvmtf


This ought to rile up the mindless inlanders.


Onions, cajun spice, 6 rounds, BLAM! Should be easy to get at least two of
them.


You LIKE to eat them things? Not me, I've tried deer a few times, always
from someone who likes to hunt "Here try this, it's my secret recipe".
or "It's the wife's speciality". Never once did I go back for seconds.
For me, it is all and always too gamey. I may try it again someday, but
that's unlikely.

I've been to a number of "game dinners" and had a wide variety of
dishes, including venison, bear, buffalo and moose. I share your
opinion.
It makes perfect sense that we grow beef and KFC, and manufacture
Cheetos.

--Vic

Oh deer!
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:



The bear cave is genuine. A ranger came out one day to examine the cave,
tracks, stool, and some of the remains of eaten animals, and determined
there were bears living in the cave off and on.

Was the ranger alone except for the guy with red skin?
Your story is beginning to make sense.

We live out in the country next to woods, forests, farms and Chesapeake
Bay. Lots of wildlife.

Same here on the wildlife, but without the other stuff.
Oh, and the wildlife is mostly skunks, squirrels, and mice.

--Vic



I forgot skunks. We have those, too!

The guy's place out at the Shenandoah is along the river and between two
heavily wooded mountain ranges. For me, the draw there is the river.
It's pretty clean, usually fast running, and offers just terrific
canoeing and smallie fishing.