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Calif Bill August 20th 07 04:42 AM

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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.


We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have
the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's
license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you
disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with
this right you imagine.


You post which part of the Constitution prohibits driving a car. When
licenses was first issued, they were issued for life. We need to learn
something from the French. Their government is scared of the people.
We are afraid of our government.


You're such a comedian. Show me which part of the constitution prohibits
neighbors from making too much noise at night.

Not Federal law. And we allow certain laws to be passed as part of a
civilized people.


Is it a federal law that we must have driver's licenses?


The Feds are trying to make a national license. Which part of the
Constitution covers this part.



animal05 August 20th 07 05:00 AM

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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.


I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.

Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for
some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!



Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the
opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no?


Yes.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.



$125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age.



And you can set up a HSA and put the 3k a year in pre tax, and let it
roll over year to year.

JoeSpareBedroom August 20th 07 12:48 PM

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"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.


We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have
the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's
license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you
disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals
with this right you imagine.


You post which part of the Constitution prohibits driving a car. When
licenses was first issued, they were issued for life. We need to
learn something from the French. Their government is scared of the
people. We are afraid of our government.


You're such a comedian. Show me which part of the constitution
prohibits neighbors from making too much noise at night.

Not Federal law. And we allow certain laws to be passed as part of a
civilized people.


Is it a federal law that we must have driver's licenses?


The Feds are trying to make a national license. Which part of the
Constitution covers this part.


I never said it did. But, I think that as imperfect as driving tests are, if
they stop a few people from getting a license, that's an excellent thing.



JoeSpareBedroom August 20th 07 12:49 PM

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Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on
someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.




It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your
theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.

I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the
other hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You
need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a
place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you
want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

Why?

Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something
that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who
lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about
Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,


He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without
knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the
messages in a thread before commenting.


I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in
Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He
may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest.



Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny.



JoeSpareBedroom August 20th 07 12:50 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay
for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!



Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the
opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no?


Yes.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


$125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age.


Where did you find that information?



BAR August 20th 07 01:23 PM

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"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on
someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.



It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your
theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.
I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the
other hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You
need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a
place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you
want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
Why?
Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something
that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who
lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about
Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,

He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without
knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the
messages in a thread before commenting.

I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in
Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He
may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest.



Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny.


That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an
emergency or life threatening situation.


JimH August 20th 07 01:27 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on
someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.




It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your
theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.

I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the
other hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You
need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a
place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you
want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

Why?

Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something
that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who
lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about
Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,


He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without
knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of
the messages in a thread before commenting.


I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in
Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He
may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest.



Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not
funny.


I pay $1,100 per month for medical. What are you bitching about?



JoeSpareBedroom August 20th 07 02:47 PM

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"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go
on someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.



It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your
theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.
I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the
other hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You
need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a
place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone
you want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
Why?
Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something
that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone
who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap
about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,

He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without
knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of
the messages in a thread before commenting.

I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in
Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism.
He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest.



Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not
funny.


That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an
emergency or life threatening situation.


True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level
of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to
manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles
were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly,
the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is
an example.



Calif Bill August 20th 07 06:27 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...

Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go
on someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.



It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your
theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.
I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the
other hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You
need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a
place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone
you want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan
costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
Why?
Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree,
something that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone
who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap
about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,

He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation.
Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading
more of the messages in a thread before commenting.

I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in
Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism.
He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest.


Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not
funny.


That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an
emergency or life threatening situation.


True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income
level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be
able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose
lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So,
suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists.
Here, Kodak is an example.


Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may
have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you
have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a
$45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over.



JoeSpareBedroom August 20th 07 06:28 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...

Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go
on someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.



It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your
theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.
I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the
other hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose.
You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it
is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore
anyone you want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan
costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
Why?
Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree,
something that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone
who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap
about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,

He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation.
Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading
more of the messages in a thread before commenting.

I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in
Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism.
He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest.


Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not
funny.

That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an
emergency or life threatening situation.


True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income
level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be
able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose
lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down.
So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer
exists. Here, Kodak is an example.


Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may
have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you
have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived
a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over.


You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two,
especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up
for me.




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