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which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? Yeah, and I wonder if the price swings are based on physical reality (yet), or just speculation. You know: Hamad Karzai stubs his toe, oil goes up a dollar a barrel, and stays there, even though Mr. Karzai's toe is fine. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency. Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual and high enough that most people will not want to pay it. If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but you should have to pay for the privilege! Same should apply to boats. |
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country. "john" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency. Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual and high enough that most people will not want to pay it. If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but you should have to pay for the privilege! Same should apply to boats. |
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john wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency. Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual and high enough that most people will not want to pay it. If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but you should have to pay for the privilege! Why, are SUVs illegal? Should we prevent people from owning houses that you believe are too big for them? Same should apply to boats. Why do you want to prevent Joe-six-pack the joy of boat ownership? |
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"Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. Yes sir, a drivers license in not a right, it's a priveledge. "john" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency. Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual and high enough that most people will not want to pay it. If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but you should have to pay for the privilege! Same should apply to boats. |
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"Midlant" wrote in message
... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you imagine. |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:06:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you imagine. Did you know that Article V, Section 4 requires that every state have Republican government? Section 4 - Republican government The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Government..... |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:06:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you imagine. Did you know that Article V, Section 4 requires that every state have Republican government? Section 4 - Republican government The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Government..... Run away! :) |
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On Aug 16, 5:52 pm, "john" wrote:
If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but you should have to pay for the privilege! Same should apply to boats. Yeah, that's it! Tax the middleclass out of lifestyle so fatcats can endulge themselves in it. Then turn around and tell the middle class how you feel their pain, and if they can just tax you a little more, things will get better (for them). What's next, you want to buy my legs because I can't afford to go anywhere to use them anyway?? This is a sick concept/scam on the level of carbon credits which essentially work the same way. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:42:08 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. Yes sir, a drivers license in not a right, it's a priveledge. That is just something propagated by an oppressive government. If you are saying you don't have a right to a driver's license because it is not mentioned in the constitution then minorities have no rights to eat in a resturant either Poor analogy. |
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"john" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency. Force? What country do you live in? Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual and high enough that most people will not want to pay it. If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but you should have to pay for the privilege! Huh? Owners of cars, SUV's, PU's, trucks, RV's, boats........etc...........already pay for their right to own and drive them. If the owners cannot afford to operate them they are garaged, stored until they can or............run! The choice is theirs, at least at the present time in the United States. Is your real name Hillary C. or Nancy P.? |
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wrote in message
... On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:42:08 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. Yes sir, a drivers license in not a right, it's a priveledge. That is just something propagated by an oppressive government. Yah OK. Driving tests pass too many lousy drivers, but they do stop SOME. |
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"Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. |
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john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message m... john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H You'll need to play your game with someone else, diaper boy. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H You'll need to play your game with someone else, diaper boy. Ahh. Herring bought Skipper's bilgeliner! |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? |
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HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is all about the choices you make. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is all about the choices you make. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. |
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On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:15:33 -0400, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. Oh, and a lobsta boat! Why not take it to a.politics, Harry? -- John H |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:
HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is all about the choices you make. And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else. As for choices, what do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html -- John H |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:50:50 -0400, HK wrote:
Ahh. Herring bought Skipper's bilgeliner! Good morning, Harry! You are such a neat guy! Thanks for mentioning me in your post. It's an honor. -- John H |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:00:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is all about the choices you make. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Twelve dollars a month will get you a subscription to a.politics! What do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html -- John H |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:00:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Maybe thirteen? -- John H |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... snip.. Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument for good! http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Oh my! I can see Waylon Smithers & JohnH soiling their undies just looking at that video. You should post a warning on the url for their protection. |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. |
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded. |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
Don White wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... snip.. Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument for good! http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Oh my! I can see Waylon Smithers & JohnH soiling their undies just looking at that video. You should post a warning on the url for their protection. The Grand Banks RV that had been parked there broke loose, swamped and sank. |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
"HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded. Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern lines. |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded. Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern lines. That must be it. We have pretty decent ramps here, deep, with concrete or wood piers. |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
On Aug 18, 10:51 am, HK wrote:
Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message egroups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:e9qdnac4g8_XQlvbnZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcas t.com... john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message .. . A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded. Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern lines. That must be it. We have pretty decent ramps here, deep, with concrete or wood piers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I go to a lot of different places, lots of new places, never know what you are going to find for facilities. I have found that boats, 20 feet + in a slight wind or tide can be hard to maneuver around the loading area for me. I don't think I would want to constantly trailer anything much bigger than 20 feet. My boats are usually not powerful enough to "drive up" on the trailer but more problems for me while the boat is off the trailer either just off, or waiting to load. |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:22:14 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:01:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else. As for choices, what do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html I like Scout...... only down side is that at option picking time, you will be squeezed through the same tube as SWS and Harry: http://tinyurl.com/2f4xv2 Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument for good! http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html They seem to be well constructed, and I've no problem with the Yamaha. Hell, if I decide I don't like it, I'll get something else. -- John H |
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