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John H. wrote:
I guess I forgot - which asshole is "BAR"? I guess normal conversation just ****es you off, Harry? You are so neat. Being called an asshole by such as you is a real honor. Did you catch this, John? http://www.scoutboats.com/models/pdf...mp020_sm-2.pdf The Parker should have performed better but the motor works hard hauling all of that water. |
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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:17:08 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 18, 9:01 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote: HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet. You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is all about the choices you make. And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else. As for choices, what do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - · Fighting Lady Yellow.." OOOHHHH! JohnH, I don't like it, it doesn't have the prefered Open Transom design. ;) That's why God made http://tinyurl.com/236k9e !! I'm a 'do it yourselfer'. You beat me to it! I guess I should read ahead. At least I selected the cordless model for "emergency" adjustments. Dan |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:08:37 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:
John H. wrote: And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else. As for choices, what do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html That boat has bracket on the back! You better carry one of these to cut out the transom in case of an emergency... http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...productID=4114 HEY! I just posted the same thing for Reggie. Are you telling me I need two of the damn things? -- John H |
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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:58:13 -0000, Tim wrote: On Aug 18, 12:21 pm, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:44:11 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded. Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern lines. My 21'er was a handful for one person, especially if the launch ramp had no dock alongside. Luckily, Breezy Point, where Harry kept the YO HO, had a dock alongside the ramp, making launching and retrieval pretty easy. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't really have a problem with either my 18' Chris, or my 23' Marquis. My lakes do have launch docks with good bumper railing. I dont' drive up onto the trailer, because the boat always settles in lpsided because of the additional weight on the helm side, so I get it all centered pull the craft forward, hook and crank. works ok, just have to take a bit of time, but not bad. As long as the docks are there, it goes well. Today we went down to Pohick Bay, off the Potomac River, just to sit and watch folks launch and retrieve boats (and to give the dog a chance to play in the water). What a blast. There are always some fools around to make the watching enjoyable! Pohick Bay is an accident waiting to happen. Too many idiots in too small of a space. If you want to talk about a body of water that shouldn't allow low/no transom boats then Pokick Bay on a Saturday, Sunday or Holiday. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message news:ibSdnTRWtNpS1lXbnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. It wouldn't surprise me that NY has all sorts of requirements for coverage which drive up the cost. |
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On Aug 19, 3:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ps.com... On Aug 19, 8:35 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. Now you're sounding tremendously like basskisser But, it's true: It's amusing. Not really |
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On Aug 19, 6:21 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:08:37 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote: John H. wrote: And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else. As for choices, what do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html That boat has bracket on the back! You better carry one of these to cut out the transom in case of an emergency... http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...productID=4114 HEY! I just posted the same thing for Reggie. Are you telling me I need two of the damn things? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - One for Starboard and one for Port, John. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:37:46 -0400, BAR wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:30:44 -0400, BAR wrote: Oh, forgot to mention I played Needwood today, shot a 95. Cool! Needwood looks like my kind of course, a slope I can live with. I finally broke the 90 barrier last week. Shot an 89 at Greendale. Then went out to Virginia Oaks the next day and shot a 104, just to deinflate my head! I shot a 51 on the front and a 44 on the back. Interestingly the back is harder than the front. Lots of elevations changes and some blind tee shots. I am going to play Blue Mash on Wed. Aug 29th. That looks like a more difficult proposition. The white tees there have the same slope as the senior tees at our local course (Greendale). I've not yet played any of the courses in Maryland. We're going to Bowling Green on Tuesday, which is a nice course for low scores. It's the first course I played and shot below 100. Not much water...(boating related, you know). -- John H Take to a.golf or a.frustration |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. $125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you imagine. You post which part of the Constitution prohibits driving a car. When licenses was first issued, they were issued for life. We need to learn something from the French. Their government is scared of the people. We are afraid of our government. You're such a comedian. Show me which part of the constitution prohibits neighbors from making too much noise at night. Not Federal law. And we allow certain laws to be passed as part of a civilized people. Is it a federal law that we must have driver's licenses? The Feds are trying to make a national license. Which part of the Constitution covers this part. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message m... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:e9qdnac4g8_XQlvbnZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast. com... john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. $125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age. And you can set up a HSA and put the 3k a year in pre tax, and let it roll over year to year. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license, therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you imagine. You post which part of the Constitution prohibits driving a car. When licenses was first issued, they were issued for life. We need to learn something from the French. Their government is scared of the people. We are afraid of our government. You're such a comedian. Show me which part of the constitution prohibits neighbors from making too much noise at night. Not Federal law. And we allow certain laws to be passed as part of a civilized people. Is it a federal law that we must have driver's licenses? The Feds are trying to make a national license. Which part of the Constitution covers this part. I never said it did. But, I think that as imperfect as driving tests are, if they stop a few people from getting a license, that's an excellent thing. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. $125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age. Where did you find that information? |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. I pay $1,100 per month for medical. What are you bitching about? |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. $125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age. Where did you find that information? SWAG. Put enough deductible in and the rates go way down. You should not worry about the everyday costs, you need to cover the catastrophes. Paying for the yearly or biannual physical out of pocket will save you a lot of money in the end. Just like car insurance. Get a $1000 deductible over a $250 deductibe and you can lower your rate $2-400. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no? Yes. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. $125 / month with $3k deductible. Depends on your and your kids age. Where did you find that information? SWAG. Put enough deductible in and the rates go way down. You should not worry about the everyday costs, you need to cover the catastrophes. Paying for the yearly or biannual physical out of pocket will save you a lot of money in the end. Just like car insurance. Get a $1000 deductible over a $250 deductibe and you can lower your rate $2-400. There's pretty much no such thing as major medical-only coverage in NY. There used to be. The problem is being "looked into" by our legislature. Translation: They're trying to figure out how to back away from a change they made years ago, without looking stupid. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. A family making $45k/year should not be living a $75k/year lifestyle. And if they cannot afford to raise children they should not be having them. Ever hear of taking responsibility for your actions Doug? Trouble is, too many folks like yourself like to fall back on the government when things don't always work out. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "JimH" ask wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. A family making $45k/year should not be living a $75k/year lifestyle. And if they cannot afford to raise children they should not be having them. Ever hear of taking responsibility for your actions Doug? Trouble is, too many folks like yourself like to fall back on the government when things don't always work out. Can you imagine any scenario in which a family who is "responsible", by ***YOUR**** definition, can be making 75K on day and 45K a month later? I am sure it happens all the time. When it does, the family needs to change their lifestyle. No more cable tv. No more eating out. No more going out to watch movies. Just local low cost vacations. Switch to dial up internet service. Drop the cell phones. Drive less. Use coupons and shop for bargains. Get a second job. Heck, come to think of it that is sort of like the lifestyle (less internet) I was born and raised in and we had a great time. We all pitched in and no one complained. A family of 4 can certainly live on $45k/year. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Do you have a degree in chemistry? Or just poured the emulsions into a vat? You may have to move, you may have to go back to school, you may have to go to a $40k job and not buy a car every 4 years. You get unemployment for up to 26 weeks. Time to find another job or career. You may have to move. Life is tough at times, but this is not a world with guaranteed lifetime employment. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Do you have a degree in chemistry? Or just poured the emulsions into a vat? You may have to move, you may have to go back to school, you may have to go to a $40k job and not buy a car every 4 years. You get unemployment for up to 26 weeks. Time to find another job or career. You may have to move. Life is tough at times, but this is not a world with guaranteed lifetime employment. I said you were right. Therefore, any time a family suddenly cannot afford insurance, it's their fault for reproducing outside of your approved criteria, and having too many luxuries. You're right. All done. |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:34:38 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:12:59 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:22:50 -0500, John H. penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:28:10 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:25:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming evangelicals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately? Or Milk? IMHO, we are taking entirely the wrong direction with this. We need to stop thinking "liquid combustible fuel" and move on to the next step in power source evolution. I can't think of a better way to return our economy to #1 and render, those would do us harm, impotent.... Go Nuclear! Hell, the Navy did it! I'm sure no fan of that, either. I pay two electric bills: one coal fired the other nuclear. The nuclear cost per KWh is 30% higher than the coal. That may just prove you're getting ripped off. Yeah, but it isn't like I can take my business elsewhere...... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Do you have a degree in chemistry? Or just poured the emulsions into a vat? You may have to move, you may have to go back to school, you may have to go to a $40k job and not buy a car every 4 years. You get unemployment for up to 26 weeks. Time to find another job or career. You may have to move. Life is tough at times, but this is not a world with guaranteed lifetime employment. I said you were right. Therefore, any time a family suddenly cannot afford insurance, it's their fault for reproducing outside of your approved criteria, and having too many luxuries. You're right. All done. I was not the one saying you have too many kids. I just say crap happens. If you are healthy, then you should go get a new job. Not like you are down with terminal disease. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. Sorry did not mean for this to take off into a meaningless political argument.... You are correct everyone has the opportunity to purchase health insurance, just as everyone has the opportunity to drive a SUV, or buy a 150 foot luxury yacht. But every person lives their life based on their choices. You could go into hock and buy the yacht but could you afford to drive it? Most people make choices based on what they can afford. I was accused of being a commie because I suggested taxing certain "luxury" items to conserve fuel by making energy in-efficient toys less affordable. People are easily manipulated by the media, TV and movies - why else would everyone suddenly decide that they need the biggest car on the road just to commute to and from work? I'll repeat it again, they have the opportunity to buy a monster SUV, but they should have to pay either extra road tax (it cost more in wear and tear as well as parking spots), gas tax ( by you burning more than "your share" it costs everyone else more - why should I subsidize you?) or Luxury tax. You have the opportunity to buy and drive what ever you want, you make your own choices, but if you are going to burn more energy there should be an additional charge to persuade you to conserve. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Do you have a degree in chemistry? Or just poured the emulsions into a vat? You may have to move, you may have to go back to school, you may have to go to a $40k job and not buy a car every 4 years. You get unemployment for up to 26 weeks. Time to find another job or career. You may have to move. Life is tough at times, but this is not a world with guaranteed lifetime employment. I said you were right. Therefore, any time a family suddenly cannot afford insurance, it's their fault for reproducing outside of your approved criteria, and having too many luxuries. You're right. All done. I was not the one saying you have too many kids. I just say crap happens. If you are healthy, then you should go get a new job. Not like you are down with terminal disease. Not me, but neighbors. Besides that, you're right. $600+ is never too much for anyone unless they are complete screwups. |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:42:58 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:
John H. wrote: I guess I forgot - which asshole is "BAR"? I guess normal conversation just ****es you off, Harry? You are so neat. Being called an asshole by such as you is a real honor. Did you catch this, John? http://www.scoutboats.com/models/pdf...mp020_sm-2.pdf The Parker should have performed better but the motor works hard hauling all of that water. No, I hadn't seen that. Quite interesting. I would have thought the less wind resistance of a sternless boat would have improved the economy. -- John H |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:48:34 -0400, BAR wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:58:13 -0000, Tim wrote: On Aug 18, 12:21 pm, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:44:11 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Midlant" wrote in message ... A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the downfall of this country. I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution. Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing. If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one else's health care insurance. Be the example! Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to a.politics. So, what do you think of my new boat selection? -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and some good bumpers. Good point. That in-between size can be awkward. If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or foolish enough to venture out in. Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded. Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern lines. My 21'er was a handful for one person, especially if the launch ramp had no dock alongside. Luckily, Breezy Point, where Harry kept the YO HO, had a dock alongside the ramp, making launching and retrieval pretty easy. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't really have a problem with either my 18' Chris, or my 23' Marquis. My lakes do have launch docks with good bumper railing. I dont' drive up onto the trailer, because the boat always settles in lpsided because of the additional weight on the helm side, so I get it all centered pull the craft forward, hook and crank. works ok, just have to take a bit of time, but not bad. As long as the docks are there, it goes well. Today we went down to Pohick Bay, off the Potomac River, just to sit and watch folks launch and retrieve boats (and to give the dog a chance to play in the water). What a blast. There are always some fools around to make the watching enjoyable! Pohick Bay is an accident waiting to happen. Too many idiots in too small of a space. If you want to talk about a body of water that shouldn't allow low/no transom boats then Pokick Bay on a Saturday, Sunday or Holiday. You're right, but it's a fun place to go! -- John H |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:05:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Then you have to change your lifestyle. Get a different career. You may have to flip burgers for awhile, but no where is it declared that if you have a $75k job, you always get to live that lifestyle. And if you lived a $45k lifestyle while making $75k, your investments would tide you over. You're right. It's easy to get a different career, usually in a day or two, especially if your specialty was film emulsions. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Do you have a degree in chemistry? Or just poured the emulsions into a vat? You may have to move, you may have to go back to school, you may have to go to a $40k job and not buy a car every 4 years. You get unemployment for up to 26 weeks. Time to find another job or career. You may have to move. Life is tough at times, but this is not a world with guaranteed lifetime employment. I said you were right. Therefore, any time a family suddenly cannot afford insurance, it's their fault for reproducing outside of your approved criteria, and having too many luxuries. You're right. All done. Well, we're all glad that's done and you're satisfied. Now, how about telling us about your boat, and take the political crap someplace else? -- John H |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:08:37 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote: John H. wrote: And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else. As for choices, what do you think... http://tinyurl.com/27277t or http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html That boat has bracket on the back! You better carry one of these to cut out the transom in case of an emergency... http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...productID=4114 HEY! I just posted the same thing for Reggie. Are you telling me I need two of the damn things? It has to be cordless. Even if you have a genset it will probably be swamped, too. Dan |
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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:42:58 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote: John H. wrote: I guess I forgot - which asshole is "BAR"? I guess normal conversation just ****es you off, Harry? You are so neat. Being called an asshole by such as you is a real honor. Did you catch this, John? http://www.scoutboats.com/models/pdf...mp020_sm-2.pdf The Parker should have performed better but the motor works hard hauling all of that water. No, I hadn't seen that. Quite interesting. I would have thought the less wind resistance of a sternless boat would have improved the economy. Not true... http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/?p=58 |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on someplace else? -- John H Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy? More insight into Doug's personality disorder. It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer. I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other hand have one of the weakest skins. You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want. Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in Rochester NY. At least take a guess. Why? Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something that's sadly predictable. Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work, He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the messages in a thread before commenting. I read the thread. He probably cares less what insurance costs in Rochester. Maybe Frostbite runs up the rates. Or winter alcoholism. He may be able to look up policies in his area with some interest. Whatever. It's about $675.00, unless you're on NY's poverty plan. Not funny. That doesn't seem to be out of line for what you get in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. True, but if I recall, the poverty plan becomes available at an income level of 42K. While it may seem that a family with maybe 2 kids should be able to manage on (picking a number here) 45K, there are families whose lifestyles were based on let's say 75K, but their employers shut down. So, suddenly, the "opportunity" to pay for the insurance no longer exists. Here, Kodak is an example. Nothing is forever, and I have gone from good job to wondering where my next paycheck is coming from 4 times in my career. Back in '02 I was laid off in late February and my wife was laid off three weeks later. Going from two paychecks in the high tech arena to no paychecks was a shocker but, we regrouped and went out looking for new jobs. Albeit we were lucky enough to have a large employer base in our area. We have stayed in the DC area for just that reason. Pick yourself up and make some plans and make some decisions and get on with your life. |
Another consequence - bio fuels...
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:15:06 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:42:58 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote: John H. wrote: I guess I forgot - which asshole is "BAR"? I guess normal conversation just ****es you off, Harry? You are so neat. Being called an asshole by such as you is a real honor. Did you catch this, John? http://www.scoutboats.com/models/pdf...mp020_sm-2.pdf The Parker should have performed better but the motor works hard hauling all of that water. No, I hadn't seen that. Quite interesting. I would have thought the less wind resistance of a sternless boat would have improved the economy. Not true... http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/?p=58 As the relationship is one to one, would one get a boat full of 'stagnant air' *with* a full transom? Hell, I always thought the smell was my feet! -- John H |
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