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Another consequence - bio fuels...

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:58:13 -0000, Tim wrote:

On Aug 18, 12:21 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:44:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
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On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
news:e9qdnac4g8_XQlvbnZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcas t.com...
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
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Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If
not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave
or foolish enough to venture out in.

Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging
etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are
usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern
lines.

My 21'er was a handful for one person, especially if the launch ramp had no
dock alongside. Luckily, Breezy Point, where Harry kept the YO HO, had a
dock alongside the ramp, making launching and retrieval pretty easy.
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I don't really have a problem with either my 18' Chris, or my 23'
Marquis. My lakes do have launch docks with good bumper railing. I
dont' drive up onto the trailer, because the boat always settles in
lpsided because of the additional weight on the helm side, so I get it
all centered pull the craft forward, hook and crank. works ok, just
have to take a bit of time, but not bad.

As long as the docks are there, it goes well. Today we went down to Pohick
Bay, off the Potomac River, just to sit and watch folks launch and retrieve
boats (and to give the dog a chance to play in the water). What a blast.
There are always some fools around to make the watching enjoyable!
--
John H

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:06:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Midlant" wrote in message
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A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.

We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the
right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license,
therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree,
cut & paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right
you imagine.

You post which part of the Constitution prohibits driving a car. When
licenses was first issued, they were issued for life. We need to learn
something from the French. Their government is scared of the people. We
are afraid of our government.

You're such a comedian. Show me which part of the constitution prohibits
neighbors from making too much noise at night.

Answered in a.politics!
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:42:05 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:29:31 -0400, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs
in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.

And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html

I believe there is not enough room behind the helm. The two seats take
up valuable fishing space on a boat of that size. This looks like a
compromise between what the wife wants and what the fisherman wants.

I would rather purchase a http://www.gradywhite.com/180/

The aft 'seats' are just cushions snapped to covers. On the port side is a
live well, and on the starboard the battery. When the covers are removed,
as I would do for fishing, the covers become good bait/lure stations.

You're right that the wife wanted more than a bare bones fishing boat.
Luckily, the amenities on this boat are either removable or useful. The
extra half foot beam doesn't bother me either.

But, I'll drag the wife up to TriState tomorrow or the next day and see
what the small Grady looks like.
--
John H

Problem with Grady's are they are extremely proud of their boats.
Overpriced for the size.

I've always thought so too. But, I'll check out the price of the 18'er.
Whoa, about $35000, which is about $7-$8000 more than the Scout. Worth it?
Maybe, but I don't think so.
--
John H

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:12:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:22:50 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:28:10 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:25:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?

IMHO, we are taking entirely the wrong direction with this. We need to
stop thinking "liquid combustible fuel" and move on to the next step
in power source evolution.

I can't think of a better way to return our economy to #1 and render,
those would do us harm, impotent....

Go Nuclear! Hell, the Navy did it!

I'm sure no fan of that, either. I pay two electric bills: one coal
fired the other nuclear. The nuclear cost per KWh is 30% higher than
the coal.

That may just prove you're getting ripped off.
--
John H

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:35:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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I guess I forgot - which asshole is "BAR"?

He's an identity shifter who's been here for quite some time. He blew his
cover a few minutes ago.

He has changed his name once in his entire USENET career.

He has never tried to hide his identity.

You can't "blew his cover" if he never had a cove.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

That was answered in a.politics.
--
John H

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:35:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Just like the bunny, you go on and on and on. Why don't you go on
someplace
else?
--
John H
Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?
More insight into Doug's personality disorder.

It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories
by asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.

I have one of the toughest skins in this entire group. You on the other
hand have one of the weakest skins.

You believe you are owed a response to every question you pose. You need
to get over that hang-up and just deal with USENET as it is, a place
where you can come and talk with, BS with and ignore anyone you want.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

Why?

Your "why" was answered yesterday. You cannot make claims involving
numbers unless you have the numbers. You will now disagree, something
that's sadly predictable.

Because insurance costs in Rochester, New York only concern someone who
lives there. And so you are the only one here who gives a crap about
Rochester insurance costs. Do your own work,

He made a general statement which applied to the entire nation. Without
knowing specifics, his statement was meaningless. Try reading more of the
messages in a thread before commenting.

Doug, your meaningless question recieved an appropriate answer in
a.politics. Now, what kind of boat do you have again? A Whaler? What
engine?
--
John H

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:36:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 19, 8:35 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Why don't you go **** yourself, diaper boy?

More insight into Doug's personality disorder.

It's amusing to see how you behave when someone deflates your theories by
asking you a question you're too stupid to answer.

Now you're sounding tremendously like basskisser

But, it's true: It's amusing.

That you sound like Bassy is true. That it's amusing is not.
--
John H

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John H. wrote:

And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html

That boat has bracket on the back! You better carry one of these to cut
out the transom in case of an emergency...

http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...productID=4114

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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Hey Don! How's your mom today? One of the things I did, during the last
ten
years or so of my mom's life, was call her every Saturday and Sunday and
just shoot the crap for an hour or so. She greatly appreciated that.
--
John H

She's just fine. We got back from the TCU a few minutes ago after spending a
couple hours with her.
Took here down from the 4th floor to the main floor cafeteria for a coffee
and gab. When we took her back up to the 4th floor my sister was waiting.
The other old ladies weren't sure where we had gone.
I probably won't get in tomorrow as my #2 sister has invited us to their
skybox at the local arena to catch the Cirque du Soleil show.
http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/Cirque....htm?c=Halifax

I saw this one Friday night and it was awesome.

http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/Cirque...m?bandWidth=Hi

There were two boats in the show. We were in the 7th row - I'm not sure
a skybox would be a benefit for a show like this but you should still
enjoy it.