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Short Wave Sportfishing August 16th 07 12:25 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?

JoeSpareBedroom August 16th 07 12:55 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?


Yeah, and I wonder if the price swings are based on physical reality (yet),
or just speculation. You know: Hamad Karzai stubs his toe, oil goes up a
dollar a barrel, and stays there, even though Mr. Karzai's toe is fine.



John August 16th 07 10:52 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?


No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency.
Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that
case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual
and high enough that most people will not want to pay it.

If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but
you should have to pay for the privilege!

Same should apply to boats.



Midlant August 16th 07 11:38 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.

"john" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?


No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force
efficiency. Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to
30 MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick
in. It should be annual and high enough that most people will not
want to pay it.

If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it -
but you should have to pay for the privilege!

Same should apply to boats.





BAR August 16th 07 11:41 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
john wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?


No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force efficiency.
Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30 MPG, so in that
case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It should be annual
and high enough that most people will not want to pay it.

If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but
you should have to pay for the privilege!


Why, are SUVs illegal? Should we prevent people from owning houses that
you believe are too big for them?

Same should apply to boats.


Why do you want to prevent Joe-six-pack the joy of boat ownership?


D.Duck August 16th 07 11:42 PM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.


Yes sir, a drivers license in not a right, it's a priveledge.





"john" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?


No doubt - the best approach to energy independence is to force
efficiency. Of course it would be hard to get that monster SUV up to 30
MPG, so in that case a very hefty gas guzzler/surtax should kick in. It
should be annual and high enough that most people will not want to pay
it.

If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it -
but you should have to pay for the privilege!

Same should apply to boats.







JoeSpareBedroom August 17th 07 12:06 AM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.



We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the
right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license,
therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut &
paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you
imagine.



Short Wave Sportfishing August 17th 07 12:34 AM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:06:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.


We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the
right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license,
therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut &
paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you
imagine.


Did you know that Article V, Section 4 requires that every state have
Republican government?

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a
Republican Government.....

JoeSpareBedroom August 17th 07 12:36 AM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:06:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.


We have the right to travel freely throughout this country. We have the
right to own a car. We do NOT have the right to a driver's license,
therefore we have no guaranteed right to drive a car. If you disagree, cut
&
paste the section of the Constitution which deals with this right you
imagine.


Did you know that Article V, Section 4 requires that every state have
Republican government?

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a
Republican Government.....


Run away! :)



[email protected] August 17th 07 12:59 AM

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 
On Aug 16, 5:52 pm, "john" wrote:

If you can afford to drive it, you should have the right to drive it - but
you should have to pay for the privilege!

Same should apply to boats.


Yeah, that's it! Tax the middleclass out of lifestyle so fatcats can
endulge themselves in it. Then turn around and tell the middle class
how you feel their pain, and if they can just tax you a little more,
things will get better (for them). What's next, you want to buy my
legs because I can't afford to go anywhere to use them anyway?? This
is a sick concept/scam on the level of carbon credits which
essentially work the same way.




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