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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:23:46 -0000, wrote:

On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of the
downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the constitution.

Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!

Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

I fooled with one in the water at the marina where I tried it out. It's
about the biggest I could get and still have good trailerability. It
doesn't require a tandem axle, and is small enough not to require trailer
brakes. I've been able to launch and retrieve my 21'er with no major
problems, so the 18'er should be a snap.

Once we move to NC, we'll be in mostly lakes, with an occasional trip to
the beach. I don't envision going out beyond sight of land. I may hit the
Chesapeake Bay bridge/tunnel area.
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:13:07 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.

Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!

Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not,
I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or
foolish enough to venture out in.


Good points. Having had the experience with the 21'er is what prompted me
to go for a boat that is much easier to trailer and launch/retrieve. Most
of the time, if fishing or playing, I'd have fishing buddies or the wife
along. My wife is great at helping with launching and retrieval. She's had
lot's of practice!
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:15:32 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not,
I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or
foolish enough to venture out in.




Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Harry, you're much more capable than the average guy! Hell, we're all
wishing we had your talents!
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:44:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If
not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave
or foolish enough to venture out in.


Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging
etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are
usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern
lines.


My 21'er was a handful for one person, especially if the launch ramp had no
dock alongside. Luckily, Breezy Point, where Harry kept the YO HO, had a
dock alongside the ramp, making launching and retrieval pretty easy.
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:28:10 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:25:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

which are worshipped at the altar of enviro-nuts and Global Warming
evangelicals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...eaorang114.xml

Anybody check the price of meats in the store lately?

Or Milk?

IMHO, we are taking entirely the wrong direction with this. We need to
stop thinking "liquid combustible fuel" and move on to the next step
in power source evolution.

I can't think of a better way to return our economy to #1 and render,
those would do us harm, impotent....

Go Nuclear! Hell, the Navy did it!
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:08:33 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
snip..
Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument
for good!
http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Oh my! I can see Waylon Smithers & JohnH soiling their undies just looking
at that video.
You should post a warning on the url for their protection.


Hey Don! How's your mom today? One of the things I did, during the last ten
years or so of my mom's life, was call her every Saturday and Sunday and
just shoot the crap for an hour or so. She greatly appreciated that.
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:16:30 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
snip..
Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument
for good!
http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Oh my! I can see Waylon Smithers & JohnH soiling their undies just looking
at that video.
You should post a warning on the url for their protection.




The Grand Banks RV that had been parked there broke loose, swamped and
sank.

Harry, you are such a neat guy! It's no wonder so many people in this group
look up to you!
--
John H

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"John H." wrote in message
...

Hey Don! How's your mom today? One of the things I did, during the last
ten
years or so of my mom's life, was call her every Saturday and Sunday and
just shoot the crap for an hour or so. She greatly appreciated that.
--
John H


She's just fine. We got back from the TCU a few minutes ago after spending a
couple hours with her.
Took here down from the 4th floor to the main floor cafeteria for a coffee
and gab. When we took her back up to the 4th floor my sister was waiting.
The other old ladies weren't sure where we had gone.
I probably won't get in tomorrow as my #2 sister has invited us to their
skybox at the local arena to catch the Cirque du Soleil show.
http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/Cirque....htm?c=Halifax

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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:51:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.
You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It
is all about the choices you make.

And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html

I believe there is not enough room behind the helm. The two seats take
up valuable fishing space on a boat of that size. This looks like a
compromise between what the wife wants and what the fisherman wants.

I would rather purchase a http://www.gradywhite.com/180/

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:01:26 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

Hey Don! How's your mom today? One of the things I did, during the last
ten
years or so of my mom's life, was call her every Saturday and Sunday and
just shoot the crap for an hour or so. She greatly appreciated that.
--
John H


She's just fine. We got back from the TCU a few minutes ago after spending a
couple hours with her.
Took here down from the 4th floor to the main floor cafeteria for a coffee
and gab. When we took her back up to the 4th floor my sister was waiting.
The other old ladies weren't sure where we had gone.
I probably won't get in tomorrow as my #2 sister has invited us to their
skybox at the local arena to catch the Cirque du Soleil show.
http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/Cirque....htm?c=Halifax


Sounds most enjoyable! Glad to hear your mom's doing well.
--
John H