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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:00:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for
some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!



Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.



And don't forget, everyone has the opportunity to buy a Lear Jet.

You make choices every day. Buy the Lear Jet or buy something else. It is
all about the choices you make.


Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


Twelve dollars a month will get you a subscription to a.politics!

What do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html
--
John H

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:00:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance. Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for
some one else's health care insurance. Be the example!



Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

It doesn't matter what it costs in Rochester, NY. Do you have the
opportunity to purchase health care insurance? Yes or no?

Yes.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.


Maybe thirteen?
--
John H

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
snip..
Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument
for good!
http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Oh my! I can see Waylon Smithers & JohnH soiling their undies just looking
at that video.
You should post a warning on the url for their protection.

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.

I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.

Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.

If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!

Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.

Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.

And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not,
I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or
foolish enough to venture out in.

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they have
the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If not,
I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave or
foolish enough to venture out in.




Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

Don White wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
snip..
Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument
for good!
http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Oh my! I can see Waylon Smithers & JohnH soiling their undies just looking
at that video.
You should post a warning on the url for their protection.




The Grand Banks RV that had been parked there broke loose, swamped and
sank.

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.

Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If
not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave
or foolish enough to venture out in.


Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging
etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are
usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern
lines.

Another consequence - bio fuels...
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
...
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.
Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If
not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave
or foolish enough to venture out in.

Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging
etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are
usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern
lines.



That must be it. We have pretty decent ramps here, deep, with concrete
or wood piers.

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On Aug 18, 10:51 am, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
egroups.com...
On Aug 18, 9:50 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:06:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
news:e9qdnac4g8_XQlvbnZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcas t.com...
john wrote:
"Midlant" wrote in message
.. .
A privilege to drive your car? You sir, are a socialist and part of
the
downfall of this country.
I have some socialist leanings ( I believe in social security, and
that
everyone should be able to afford health care). But the folks
causing
the downfall of this great country are the fascists in this
administration who have and are continually tramping on the
constitution.
Everyone has the opportunity to purchase health care just as they
have the
opportunity to purchase food, shelter and clothing.
If you feel so strongly about this issue then why don't you set up a
foundation to pay for the health care or health care insurance costs
of
those that don't have the money for health care or health care
insurance.
Or better yet, why don't you spend your own money to pay for some one
else's health care insurance. Be the example!
Everyone also has the opportunity to purchase an 80 foot yacht.
Tell me what the least expensive family health insurance plan costs in
Rochester NY. At least take a guess.
And everyone has the opportunity to take their political tripe to
a.politics.

So, what do you think of my new boat selection?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah, really? No one even commented. I thought I would hold off, but
geeze. Anyway, I like the lines of the hull on many of their smaller
boats like the 14 and 17's. My only comment is how big it is and how
difficult it might be to single launch and such, Do you boat in open
or protected water, if protected, I might even go a couple feet
smaller. If open water, get a good skid protector on the keel, and
some good bumpers.
Good point. That in-between size can be awkward.
If a person always has at least one able crew along...no problem. If
not, I'd be tempted to either go a bit bigger and keep the boat at a
mooring/slip, or go smaller to something easily handled by one person. As
you say, a lot depends on where you boat and the conditions you're brave
or foolish enough to venture out in.

Jeez...I used to launch and retrieve the original Yo Ho alone once in a
while. This was a boat 25' long, plus another seven feet for the pulpit
and outboard bracket. Close to 7000 pounds with fuel. On and off a bunk
trailer. I could launch a 21-footer blindfolded.

Guess I'm think of my 19 foot sailboat....requiring mast raising, rigging
etc and the shallow launch ramps we have here. Our floating docks are
usually out of easy reach to float off & on by holding the bow & stern
lines.

That must be it. We have pretty decent ramps here, deep, with concrete
or wood piers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, I go to a lot of different places, lots of new places, never
know what you are going to find for facilities. I have found that
boats, 20 feet + in a slight wind or tide can be hard to maneuver
around the loading area for me. I don't think I would want to
constantly trailer anything much bigger than 20 feet. My boats are
usually not powerful enough to "drive up" on the trailer but more
problems for me while the boat is off the trailer either just off, or
waiting to load.

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:22:14 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:01:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


And we do wish people would take their political trash somewhere else.

As for choices, what do you think...

http://tinyurl.com/27277t

or

http://www.scoutboats.com/models/185sportfish.html

I like Scout...... only down side is that at option picking time, you
will be squeezed through the same tube as SWS and Harry:
http://tinyurl.com/2f4xv2

Wow, did you see this? This ought to end the "low transom" argument
for good!
http://www.scoutboats.com/ernesto.html

They seem to be well constructed, and I've no problem with the Yamaha.
Hell, if I decide I don't like it, I'll get something else.


--
John H