On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:39:02 -0400, HK wrote:

It's always fun in wrecked.boats to start a thread and watch where it
goes, especially if you skip all the parts in the middle where it
changed direction.

Amazing ain't it?

Some of the twists and turns can be down right amusing.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:31:36 -0000, Tim wrote:

prove you didn't....

Ask him about concrete. :)

Even better, ask him about Schnapps.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:05:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:31:36 -0000, Tim wrote:

prove you didn't....

Ask him about concrete. :)

Even better, ask him about Schnapps.

LOL!!!

On Jun 14, 7:42 pm, Dan wrote:
basskisser wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:24 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:44:13 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:15 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
I don't give a crap where you cut and pasted it from. But you did.
Prove it. Do you make a habit of making clear cut statements without
any evidence or knowledge? Well, we all KNOW you make statements
without any knowledge.......
The words below, taken from this site, sure seem to match yours!http://snlease.com/topten.html

Top Ten Reasons to Lease from Surgenor National Leasing

No major Outlay of Your Capital
No down payment required (except security deposit which is refundable at
lease termination).

Lower Monthly Payments
Payment is calculated on the difference between the vehicle's original
value and its expected value at the end of the lease term; benefit is a
lower monthly payment based on your driving needs.

Better Investment Opportunities
With no major cash outlay and lower monthly payments, you will have more
cash available to payoff other bills or for savings; frees up line of
credit for better applications.

More Vehicle for The Payment
Drive a more expensive vehicle than other financing alternatives allow.

Selection Assistance
The Leasing Consultant can guide you through your selection process,
emphasizing vehicle type, resale values, and option availability, as well
as explaining the types and terms of leases available, all with
consideration to your driving and financial needs.

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing company,
we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many makes and models.
One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

Efficient Vehicle Cycling
Leasing allows you to recycle your leased vehicle every two to four years
before expensive maintenance costs occur. Choose the term that best
reflects your anticipated use of the vehicle to maximize this advantage.

Eliminate Used Vehicle Disposal
No need to determine the value or find a buyer; simply drop off the car. Of
course, the option to purchase is always available.

Inflation Fighter
You will determine your payment per month for the full term of your lease.
If you choose a lease with a "buy-back", you can buy the vehicle at
lease-end with inflated dollars.

Simplified Tax Records
Simple record keeping - no need to calculate annual depreciation and
monthly interest; its all in your monthly payment.

Are those the only words on that site? I asked for proof, not
coincedence.

No one cares, asshole. And the educated spell it "coincidence", pot
farmer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

An educated person can have a conversation without childish and petty
name calling. I'll ask you again. Are you stating in a public forum
that I am a pot farmer?

On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Jun 14, 1:35 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

. ..

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:17 -0000, basskisser
wrote:

On Jun 13, 3:24 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:44:13 -0000, basskisser
wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:15 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

I don't give a crap where you cut and pasted it from. But you
did.

Prove it. Do you make a habit of making clear cut statements without
any evidence or knowledge? Well, we all KNOW you make statements
without any knowledge.......

The words below, taken from this site, sure seem to match
yours!http://snlease.com/topten.html

Top Ten Reasons to Lease from Surgenor National Leasing

No major Outlay of Your Capital
No down payment required (except security deposit which is refundable
at
lease termination).

Lower Monthly Payments
Payment is calculated on the difference between the vehicle's
original
value and its expected value at the end of the lease term; benefit is
a
lower monthly payment based on your driving needs.

Better Investment Opportunities
With no major cash outlay and lower monthly payments, you will have
more
cash available to payoff other bills or for savings; frees up line of
credit for better applications.

More Vehicle for The Payment
Drive a more expensive vehicle than other financing alternatives
allow.

Selection Assistance
The Leasing Consultant can guide you through your selection process,
emphasizing vehicle type, resale values, and option availability, as
well
as explaining the types and terms of leases available, all with
consideration to your driving and financial needs.

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing
company,
we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many makes and
models.
One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

Efficient Vehicle Cycling
Leasing allows you to recycle your leased vehicle every two to four
years
before expensive maintenance costs occur. Choose the term that best
reflects your anticipated use of the vehicle to maximize this
advantage.

Eliminate Used Vehicle Disposal
No need to determine the value or find a buyer; simply drop off the
car.
Of
course, the option to purchase is always available.

Inflation Fighter
You will determine your payment per month for the full term of your
lease.
If you choose a lease with a "buy-back", you can buy the vehicle at
lease-end with inflated dollars.

Simplified Tax Records
Simple record keeping - no need to calculate annual depreciation and
monthly interest; its all in your monthly payment.

Are those the only words on that site? I asked for proof, not
coincedence.

Only words? What to hell does that have to do with anything? If I cut
and
paste half the words from a site, I've still cut and pasted. No?

I guess I could even be accused of plagiarism, if I pretended they were
my
words.

Note that I'm not, in a public forum, accusing you of cutting and
pasting
and pretending. But, the fact that the words are the same is a *hell*
of a
coincidence. No?

The words were so well written, that the site quickly cut and pasted from
bassy's posting as he did not copyright them. That was easy.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bill, you've already proven yourself wrong, give it up! First you
stated, and then defended the statement that there was only one valid
reason to lease. Then you turned tail, again, as usual, and backed out
of that statement.

I did not back away from the statement about only one valid reason to lease.
That is if you can deduct the cost as a business expense.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So you are saying that the only valid reason to lease is that, for
ANYONE, or any corporation? Really?

On Jun 14, 4:05 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

k.net...







"basskisser" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Jun 14, 1:33 pm, "Mike" wrote:
Bill, why do you continue on with this moron? He continually makes an
idiot
of himself. This is my favorite of his cut and paste:

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing
company, we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many
makes and models. One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

So, if he didn't cut and paste it, bassy must be a full service leasing
company! He's not even smart enough to change it so it looks like it's
his
own.

Hmmm, and you call ME a moron. Where did I say that I agreed with all
of the instances? I simply stated to Bill's comment that there is ONLY
ONE VALID REASON to lease, is purely wrong. Do you disagree with me,
or are you just being what you like to call others?

And these reasons from a leasing company are meant to show they are valid
reasons?

What did P.T. Barnum say?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are YOU saying that there is only one valid reason for any person or
corporation?

On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:36 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 14, 2:04 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:17 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:24 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:44:13 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:15 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

I don't give a crap where you cut and pasted it from. But you did.

Prove it. Do you make a habit of making clear cut statements without
any evidence or knowledge? Well, we all KNOW you make statements
without any knowledge.......

The words below, taken from this site, sure seem to match yours!http://snlease.com/topten.html

Top Ten Reasons to Lease from Surgenor National Leasing

No major Outlay of Your Capital
No down payment required (except security deposit which is refundable at
lease termination).

Lower Monthly Payments
Payment is calculated on the difference between the vehicle's original
value and its expected value at the end of the lease term; benefit is a
lower monthly payment based on your driving needs.

Better Investment Opportunities
With no major cash outlay and lower monthly payments, you will have more
cash available to payoff other bills or for savings; frees up line of
credit for better applications.

More Vehicle for The Payment
Drive a more expensive vehicle than other financing alternatives allow.

Selection Assistance
The Leasing Consultant can guide you through your selection process,
emphasizing vehicle type, resale values, and option availability, as well
as explaining the types and terms of leases available, all with
consideration to your driving and financial needs.

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing company,
we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many makes and models.
One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

Efficient Vehicle Cycling
Leasing allows you to recycle your leased vehicle every two to four years
before expensive maintenance costs occur. Choose the term that best
reflects your anticipated use of the vehicle to maximize this advantage.

Eliminate Used Vehicle Disposal
No need to determine the value or find a buyer; simply drop off the car. Of
course, the option to purchase is always available.

Inflation Fighter
You will determine your payment per month for the full term of your lease.
If you choose a lease with a "buy-back", you can buy the vehicle at
lease-end with inflated dollars.

Simplified Tax Records
Simple record keeping - no need to calculate annual depreciation and
monthly interest; its all in your monthly payment.

Are those the only words on that site? I asked for proof, not
coincedence.

Only words? What to hell does that have to do with anything? If I cut and
paste half the words from a site, I've still cut and pasted. No?

I guess I could even be accused of plagiarism, if I pretended they were my
words.

Note that I'm not, in a public forum, accusing you of cutting and pasting
and pretending. But, the fact that the words are the same is a *hell* of a
coincidence. No?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, it IS quite a coincedence. You'd make a terrible lawyer though.
You may be narrowing your case by stating that I've "cut and pasted"
from a "website".

Why the play on the word "website"? I didn't use the word.

If you didn't cut and paste the reasons you listed, simply say so. If they
were your original words, just say so. Otherwise it looks as though you're
trying to weasel your way out of the trap you built for yourself. It's very
much like a couple other subscribers to this group would do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You used the word site.

On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Jun 14, 1:35 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

. ..

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:17 -0000, basskisser
wrote:

On Jun 13, 3:24 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:44:13 -0000, basskisser
wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:15 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

I don't give a crap where you cut and pasted it from. But you
did.

Prove it. Do you make a habit of making clear cut statements without
any evidence or knowledge? Well, we all KNOW you make statements
without any knowledge.......

The words below, taken from this site, sure seem to match
yours!http://snlease.com/topten.html

Top Ten Reasons to Lease from Surgenor National Leasing

No major Outlay of Your Capital
No down payment required (except security deposit which is refundable
at
lease termination).

Lower Monthly Payments
Payment is calculated on the difference between the vehicle's
original
value and its expected value at the end of the lease term; benefit is
a
lower monthly payment based on your driving needs.

Better Investment Opportunities
With no major cash outlay and lower monthly payments, you will have
more
cash available to payoff other bills or for savings; frees up line of
credit for better applications.

More Vehicle for The Payment
Drive a more expensive vehicle than other financing alternatives
allow.

Selection Assistance
The Leasing Consultant can guide you through your selection process,
emphasizing vehicle type, resale values, and option availability, as
well
as explaining the types and terms of leases available, all with
consideration to your driving and financial needs.

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing
company,
we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many makes and
models.
One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

Efficient Vehicle Cycling
Leasing allows you to recycle your leased vehicle every two to four
years
before expensive maintenance costs occur. Choose the term that best
reflects your anticipated use of the vehicle to maximize this
advantage.

Eliminate Used Vehicle Disposal
No need to determine the value or find a buyer; simply drop off the
car.
Of
course, the option to purchase is always available.

Inflation Fighter
You will determine your payment per month for the full term of your
lease.
If you choose a lease with a "buy-back", you can buy the vehicle at
lease-end with inflated dollars.

Simplified Tax Records
Simple record keeping - no need to calculate annual depreciation and
monthly interest; its all in your monthly payment.

Are those the only words on that site? I asked for proof, not
coincedence.

Only words? What to hell does that have to do with anything? If I cut
and
paste half the words from a site, I've still cut and pasted. No?

I guess I could even be accused of plagiarism, if I pretended they were
my
words.

Note that I'm not, in a public forum, accusing you of cutting and
pasting
and pretending. But, the fact that the words are the same is a *hell*
of a
coincidence. No?

The words were so well written, that the site quickly cut and pasted from
bassy's posting as he did not copyright them. That was easy.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bill, you've already proven yourself wrong, give it up! First you
stated, and then defended the statement that there was only one valid
reason to lease. Then you turned tail, again, as usual, and backed out
of that statement.

I did not back away from the statement about only one valid reason to lease.
That is if you can deduct the cost as a business expense.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmm, then why did you make THIS statement: "They are lots of reasons
to lease a car. most are really bad
reasons financially" So, is it "most" or all but one? You do know that buying a vehicle is a very poor investment, don't you?

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 14, 4:05 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

k.net...







"basskisser" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Jun 14, 1:33 pm, "Mike" wrote:
Bill, why do you continue on with this moron? He continually makes an
idiot
of himself. This is my favorite of his cut and paste:

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing
company, we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many
makes and models. One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

So, if he didn't cut and paste it, bassy must be a full service
leasing
company! He's not even smart enough to change it so it looks like
it's
his
own.

Hmmm, and you call ME a moron. Where did I say that I agreed with all
of the instances? I simply stated to Bill's comment that there is ONLY
ONE VALID REASON to lease, is purely wrong. Do you disagree with me,
or are you just being what you like to call others?

And these reasons from a leasing company are meant to show they are
valid
reasons?

What did P.T. Barnum say?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are YOU saying that there is only one valid reason for any person or
corporation?

Does "there's a sucker born every minute" mean anything to you?

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:10:17 -0000, basskisser wrote:

On Jun 14, 4:07 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:00:36 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 14, 2:04 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:13:17 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:24 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:44:13 -0000, basskisser wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:15 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

I don't give a crap where you cut and pasted it from. But you did.

Prove it. Do you make a habit of making clear cut statements without
any evidence or knowledge? Well, we all KNOW you make statements
without any knowledge.......

The words below, taken from this site, sure seem to match yours!http://snlease.com/topten.html

Top Ten Reasons to Lease from Surgenor National Leasing

No major Outlay of Your Capital
No down payment required (except security deposit which is refundable at
lease termination).

Lower Monthly Payments
Payment is calculated on the difference between the vehicle's original
value and its expected value at the end of the lease term; benefit is a
lower monthly payment based on your driving needs.

Better Investment Opportunities
With no major cash outlay and lower monthly payments, you will have more
cash available to payoff other bills or for savings; frees up line of
credit for better applications.

More Vehicle for The Payment
Drive a more expensive vehicle than other financing alternatives allow.

Selection Assistance
The Leasing Consultant can guide you through your selection process,
emphasizing vehicle type, resale values, and option availability, as well
as explaining the types and terms of leases available, all with
consideration to your driving and financial needs.

Payment Convenience
No need to arrange bank financing; also, as a full service leasing company,
we can offer you vehicle comparisons and quotes on many makes and models.
One stop shopping can save you a lot of time.

Efficient Vehicle Cycling
Leasing allows you to recycle your leased vehicle every two to four years
before expensive maintenance costs occur. Choose the term that best
reflects your anticipated use of the vehicle to maximize this advantage.

Eliminate Used Vehicle Disposal
No need to determine the value or find a buyer; simply drop off the car. Of
course, the option to purchase is always available.

Inflation Fighter
You will determine your payment per month for the full term of your lease.
If you choose a lease with a "buy-back", you can buy the vehicle at
lease-end with inflated dollars.

Simplified Tax Records
Simple record keeping - no need to calculate annual depreciation and
monthly interest; its all in your monthly payment.

Are those the only words on that site? I asked for proof, not
coincedence.

Only words? What to hell does that have to do with anything? If I cut and
paste half the words from a site, I've still cut and pasted. No?

I guess I could even be accused of plagiarism, if I pretended they were my
words.

Note that I'm not, in a public forum, accusing you of cutting and pasting
and pretending. But, the fact that the words are the same is a *hell* of a
coincidence. No?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, it IS quite a coincedence. You'd make a terrible lawyer though.
You may be narrowing your case by stating that I've "cut and pasted"
from a "website".

Why the play on the word "website"? I didn't use the word.

If you didn't cut and paste the reasons you listed, simply say so. If they
were your original words, just say so. Otherwise it looks as though you're
trying to weasel your way out of the trap you built for yourself. It's very
much like a couple other subscribers to this group would do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You used the word site.

bk, you missed this:

If you didn't cut and paste the reasons you listed, simply say so. If they
were your original words, just say so. Otherwise it looks as though you're
trying to weasel your way out of the trap you built for yourself. It's ery
much like a couple other subscribers to this group would do.