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![]() wrote: Ft. Belvoir,On 9 Jan 2007 04:54:11 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Is that a liner pool? Yes, and that's ANOTHER way the pool store people will hose you! They'll INSIST that you need calcium in your pool. You only need calcium if your pool is a cementitous pool, gunite, concrete, etc. where calcium will leach from the concrete if the water doesn't have any. A fiberglass or liner pool does NOT need calcium. I used to put soda ash in my spa (glass) but my gunite pool drifts to the high pH side. I am now swapping water between them so it eliminated the high pH in the spa. You are right on the baking soda. Sams/Costco will sell you a huge bag for $8 or so. We can get 10% bleach at the pool store in bulk, bring your own jug, for about a buck a gallon. That's a good deal! They will loan you a chlorine jug for a $10 deposit but you can find them in garage sales for a buck or less. It is just a swap out deal. I would like to get an automatic bleach chlorinator but I am having pretty good luck just dropping a couple pucks in a floater once a week and shocking it every sunday. But remember, those pucks have stabilizer in the form of cyuranic acid, the higher the cya, the higher the chlorine levels need to be. I use bleach only. I check it every other day when open, add bleach accordingly. That keeps my pool clear in Florida and that isn't easy. I do have to whack it with another dose of bleach when we get a lot of rain. Many years ago I ran a public pool in Md. We had a bleach chlorinator and a truck came by about once a month and filled up our tanks. That was a very easy pool to keep going. Now the rage is salt water generators. Again, a lot of commercial pools have gone the way of liquid chlorinators for just the reason I talked about. If you use a chlorinating product that the pool store sells, and it is solid, be it pucks or granuals, it will most likely have stabilizer in it to prolong shelf life. The downside is that it then raises the stabilizer level of your pool, thus needing more chlorine! The only way to get rid of high CYA levels is to drain and refill. I test with a very good commercial kit. I only shock when necessary, when the chloramine level gets above 5 ppm. Then I shock with ordinary bleach, too! Except when I happen to be at the store and I know I need to shock soon, I'll go ahead and buy shock, but ONLY chlorine shock. Don't even get me started on that Baquacil crap. Anybody who uses that **** soon finds out that it's just awful, and then it's hard as hell to change over to chlorine based! |
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