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JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: basskisser wrote: wrote: On 8 Jan 2007 08:55:05 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but need a pool. That's a guy who never saw a Chesapeake Bay sea nettle. No, but I've seen many, many sea nettles. Also, owning a home pool, I've read a lot about commercial pool water quality. At least the urine and feces that makes it's way to a lot of waterways is treated first! As far as the urine and feces that making it's way to the waterways being treated, you are incorrect. Many cities, including Atlanta, have problems with untreated waste making it way into the waterway, especially when the system is overloaded by heavy rains. Very few of the livestock owners I'm familiar with have their own treatment plants. On many lakes and coves, it is fairly common for geese and other wildlife to cause extremely high bacteria count that result in beaches being closed for extended periods. The truth of the matter, lakes, oceans, bays and pools can all have problems with fecal matter. It is fairly easy to correct a pool problem by shocking the pool with chlorine. It is not quiet as easy in a open water. |
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![]() Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: basskisser wrote: wrote: On 8 Jan 2007 08:55:05 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but need a pool. That's a guy who never saw a Chesapeake Bay sea nettle. No, but I've seen many, many sea nettles. Also, owning a home pool, I've read a lot about commercial pool water quality. At least the urine and feces that makes it's way to a lot of waterways is treated first! As far as the urine and feces that making it's way to the waterways being treated, you are incorrect. Many cities, including Atlanta, have problems with untreated waste making it way into the waterway, especially when the system is overloaded by heavy rains. Very few of the livestock owners I'm familiar with have their own treatment plants. On many lakes and coves, it is fairly common for geese and other wildlife to cause extremely high bacteria count that result in beaches being closed for extended periods. The truth of the matter, lakes, oceans, bays and pools can all have problems with fecal matter. It is fairly easy to correct a pool problem by shocking the pool with chlorine. It is not quiet as easy in a open water. It is, and it isn't. If shocking isn't done correctly, and shock levels kept at the correct levels for the correct amount of time, then it doesn't do much good. Also, you don't shock a pool to get rid of fecal matter, urine and such, the level of constant chlorine sanitation should do that. Shocking is used to get rid of the chloramines, which are a biproduct of the chlorine doing it's job. Also, the level at which to get the pool chlorine up to to shock is not a constant, and even most pool people don't know this. Most people think that they need to maintain X amount of chlorine regardless. BUT, the parts per million of constant chlorine as well as the shock levels are dependent on the amount of stabilizer in the form of cyanuric acid available. Take for instance if your stabilizer is 10 to 20 parts per million, you need a constant chlorine level of 2 to 5 ppm, and 5 to 12 ppm to shock. If your stabilizer is at 60 to 90 ppm, then you need 5 to 10 ppm chlorine and 20 or more to shock. Now here is the clincher. People who use chlorine pucks are putting more and more CYA into the pool, thereby needing more and more chlorine that they don't know about. That's why I use plain bleach, as instructed by a person that knows more about pool chemistry than anybody I've ever seen. |
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![]() basskisser wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: basskisser wrote: wrote: On 8 Jan 2007 08:55:05 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but need a pool. That's a guy who never saw a Chesapeake Bay sea nettle. No, but I've seen many, many sea nettles. Also, owning a home pool, I've read a lot about commercial pool water quality. At least the urine and feces that makes it's way to a lot of waterways is treated first! As far as the urine and feces that making it's way to the waterways being treated, you are incorrect. Many cities, including Atlanta, have problems with untreated waste making it way into the waterway, especially when the system is overloaded by heavy rains. Very few of the livestock owners I'm familiar with have their own treatment plants. On many lakes and coves, it is fairly common for geese and other wildlife to cause extremely high bacteria count that result in beaches being closed for extended periods. The truth of the matter, lakes, oceans, bays and pools can all have problems with fecal matter. It is fairly easy to correct a pool problem by shocking the pool with chlorine. It is not quiet as easy in a open water. It is, and it isn't. If shocking isn't done correctly, and shock levels kept at the correct levels for the correct amount of time, then it doesn't do much good. Also, you don't shock a pool to get rid of fecal matter, urine and such, the level of constant chlorine sanitation should do that. Shocking is used to get rid of the chloramines, which are a biproduct of the chlorine doing it's job. Also, the level at which to get the pool chlorine up to to shock is not a constant, and even most pool people don't know this. Most people think that they need to maintain X amount of chlorine regardless. BUT, the parts per million of constant chlorine as well as the shock levels are dependent on the amount of stabilizer in the form of cyanuric acid available. Take for instance if your stabilizer is 10 to 20 parts per million, you need a constant chlorine level of 2 to 5 ppm, and 5 to 12 ppm to shock. If your stabilizer is at 60 to 90 ppm, then you need 5 to 10 ppm chlorine and 20 or more to shock. Now here is the clincher. People who use chlorine pucks are putting more and more CYA into the pool, thereby needing more and more chlorine that they don't know about. That's why I use plain bleach, as instructed by a person that knows more about pool chemistry than anybody I've ever seen. I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:45:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: basskisser wrote: wrote: On 8 Jan 2007 08:55:05 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but need a pool. That's a guy who never saw a Chesapeake Bay sea nettle. No, but I've seen many, many sea nettles. Also, owning a home pool, I've read a lot about commercial pool water quality. At least the urine and feces that makes it's way to a lot of waterways is treated first! As far as the urine and feces that making it's way to the waterways being treated, you are incorrect. Many cities, including Atlanta, have problems with untreated waste making it way into the waterway, especially when the system is overloaded by heavy rains. Very few of the livestock owners I'm familiar with have their own treatment plants. On many lakes and coves, it is fairly common for geese and other wildlife to cause extremely high bacteria count that result in beaches being closed for extended periods. The truth of the matter, lakes, oceans, bays and pools can all have problems with fecal matter. It is fairly easy to correct a pool problem by shocking the pool with chlorine. It is not quiet as easy in a open water. Warnings are often put out locally for bathers to stay out of the Potomac because of high fecal matter content. -- John |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:57:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: On 1/8/2007 3:55 PM, JimH wrote: I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. Just keep Reggie out of the pool. Harry, are you trying to make me jealous? -- John |
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![]() Harry Krause wrote: On 1/8/2007 3:55 PM, JimH wrote: I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. Just keep Reggie out of the pool. LOL! He had actually started to behave and get along with people till John stepped onto the scene and told him to stop it. |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... On 1/8/2007 4:02 PM, JimH wrote: Harry Krause wrote: On 1/8/2007 3:55 PM, JimH wrote: I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. Just keep Reggie out of the pool. LOL! He had actually started to behave and get along with people till John stepped onto the scene and told him to stop it. Are you talking about Reggie posting as Reggie, or Reggie posting as one of his 50 other identities here? I killfile 'em fast as I can. If someone here is going to keep posting total number of posts as proof of disruptive behavior, I may take Smithers lead and create a few alais also. |
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![]() Don White wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... On 1/8/2007 4:02 PM, JimH wrote: Harry Krause wrote: On 1/8/2007 3:55 PM, JimH wrote: I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. Just keep Reggie out of the pool. LOL! He had actually started to behave and get along with people till John stepped onto the scene and told him to stop it. Are you talking about Reggie posting as Reggie, or Reggie posting as one of his 50 other identities here? I killfile 'em fast as I can. If someone here is going to keep posting total number of posts as proof of disruptive behavior, I may take Smithers lead and create a few alais also. Try "Duke Nukem". |
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![]() Don White wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... On 1/8/2007 4:02 PM, JimH wrote: Harry Krause wrote: On 1/8/2007 3:55 PM, JimH wrote: I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. Just keep Reggie out of the pool. LOL! He had actually started to behave and get along with people till John stepped onto the scene and told him to stop it. Are you talking about Reggie posting as Reggie, or Reggie posting as one of his 50 other identities here? I killfile 'em fast as I can. If someone here is going to keep posting total number of posts as proof of disruptive behavior, I may take Smithers lead and create a few alais also. Just like the person who posted them, Fritz, animal, animal05, etc. |
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![]() Harry Krause wrote: On 1/8/2007 5:42 PM, JimH wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... On 1/8/2007 4:02 PM, JimH wrote: Harry Krause wrote: On 1/8/2007 3:55 PM, JimH wrote: I am sure the pool at the marina is properly maintained. As I said originally my wife and daughter will probably use when while I putz around the boat when we cannot go out because of the Lake condition. Just keep Reggie out of the pool. LOL! He had actually started to behave and get along with people till John stepped onto the scene and told him to stop it. Are you talking about Reggie posting as Reggie, or Reggie posting as one of his 50 other identities here? I killfile 'em fast as I can. If someone here is going to keep posting total number of posts as proof of disruptive behavior, I may take Smithers lead and create a few alais also. Try "Duke Nukem". He's already in my bozo bin. He's one of Reggie's altered egos? Nope, that's Tom. |
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