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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:10:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Really, I don't. Heard it on at least 3 news sources within 48 hours of
the
initial occurrence. But, it really doesn't matter.

well, yes it does because if it was a christian newspaper, then that
is a whole different story. and i have looked and looked and looked
and cant find a reference to a christian newspaper.

Tom, if you think I'm inventing this, let me know, and give me a good
reason why I'd do so. Unfortunately, money's been tight, so a few months
back, I had to fire the secretary who used to follow me around and take
notes any time I wanted to track something which might be of interest to
this newsgroup. Otherwise, I'd have the precise date & time I heard
this, the source, the reporter's name & shoe size, etc.

Here's an angle: Can you think of any reasons why news editors &
producers might've dropped the "Christian" aspect of this story very
quickly?


You need to start thinking more capitalist and less socialist and money
will not be so tight.

Show us the proof it was a christian publication.


Show me proof I didn't hear it.


Or so now you heard it... ok... i have checked everywhere, even NPR, and
there is no mention that it was a Christian newspaper.

Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:41:18 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Go do a search at www.npr.org. That's usually the first radio station I
tune to in the car. Next would be our local right-wing Clear Channel
disaster, WHAM.

The original cartoons were published Sept.30 in Jyllands-Posten.
I'm not
sure, but I don't believe it's a "Christian" newspaper. The following
link has the paper's rationale for the cartoons.

http://www.jp.dk/udland/tema:fid=11328/

The cartoons:

http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2005/...posten-racism/


Interesting debate, freedom of speech vs. religious sensibilities. To
place it closer to home, to those in the freedom of speech camp, did you
also support Serrano's freedom to display his **** Christ?

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg...mages/502.html



Hadn't seen it. But, there might be a difference. Muslims believe it's
a bad thing to portray their god in any way at all. Christians don't
have such issues with the mere existence of images of JC. The *nature*
of an image of JC is another issue entirely.



Mohammed isn't the Muslim god. And it is only *some* Muslims who believe
depicting Mohammed is sinful, because there are plenty of Muslim cities
where he is depicted.

What we have now is the simple-minded Muslim rabble being stirred up for
various reasons.

I think every country should arrest and charge/deport any cleric who
preaches hatred & violence.

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:02:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

This isn't "major* political crap. No one is calling Bush an idiot here,
or even blaming it on Bill Clinton.

Have a few more poptarts, eh?

Give it up Harry, wrong group.

"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:41:18 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Go do a search at www.npr.org. That's usually the first radio station
I
tune to in the car. Next would be our local right-wing Clear Channel
disaster, WHAM.

The original cartoons were published Sept.30 in Jyllands-Posten. I'm
not
sure, but I don't believe it's a "Christian" newspaper. The following
link has the paper's rationale for the cartoons.

http://www.jp.dk/udland/tema:fid=11328/

The cartoons:

http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2005/...posten-racism/

Interesting debate, freedom of speech vs. religious sensibilities. To
place it closer to home, to those in the freedom of speech camp, did
you
also support Serrano's freedom to display his **** Christ?

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg...mages/502.html


Hadn't seen it. But, there might be a difference. Muslims believe it's a
bad thing to portray their god in any way at all. Christians don't have
such issues with the mere existence of images of JC. The *nature* of an
image of JC is another issue entirely.



Mohammed isn't the Muslim god. And it is only *some* Muslims who believe
depicting Mohammed is sinful, because there are plenty of Muslim cities
where he is depicted.

What we have now is the simple-minded Muslim rabble being stirred up for
various reasons.

I think every country should arrest and charge/deport any cleric who
preaches hatred & violence.

Deport them to where, though? It'll be like a shell game. We'll send ours to
you, you'll send them to Ghana or Iraq, they'll send theirs to you.... :-)

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:10:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Really, I don't. Heard it on at least 3 news sources within 48 hours
of the
initial occurrence. But, it really doesn't matter.

well, yes it does because if it was a christian newspaper, then that
is a whole different story. and i have looked and looked and looked
and cant find a reference to a christian newspaper.

Tom, if you think I'm inventing this, let me know, and give me a good
reason why I'd do so. Unfortunately, money's been tight, so a few
months back, I had to fire the secretary who used to follow me around
and take notes any time I wanted to track something which might be of
interest to this newsgroup. Otherwise, I'd have the precise date & time
I heard this, the source, the reporter's name & shoe size, etc.

Here's an angle: Can you think of any reasons why news editors &
producers might've dropped the "Christian" aspect of this story very
quickly?


You need to start thinking more capitalist and less socialist and money
will not be so tight.

Show us the proof it was a christian publication.


Show me proof I didn't hear it.


Or so now you heard it... ok... i have checked everywhere, even NPR, and
there is no mention that it was a Christian newspaper.


OK, then.

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:09:12 -0500, JimH wrote:


Yep, perhaps more so. Yet we don't see Catholics and Christians taking to
the streets with guns and sabers threatening to cut off the heads of the
"infidels".

I don't know. What was Pat Robertson doing? ;-)

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:48:55 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:09:12 -0500, JimH wrote:


Yep, perhaps more so. Yet we don't see Catholics and Christians taking
to
the streets with guns and sabers threatening to cut off the heads of
the
"infidels".
I don't know. What was Pat Robertson doing? ;-)

oh, id bet there are a few neo-pagan neo-facist groups out there who
would do that in a heart beat.


Brother Robertson is out with a new pronouncement, saying Europe is
causing its own demise by not impregnating its white women. I kid you not.

Here's a theory: Robertson is being paid to come out with a new insane
pronouncement on a regular basis, to make a certain someone appear competent
by comparison.

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:41:18 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Go do a search at www.npr.org. That's usually the first radio
station I
tune to in the car. Next would be our local right-wing Clear Channel
disaster, WHAM.

The original cartoons were published Sept.30 in Jyllands-Posten.
I'm not
sure, but I don't believe it's a "Christian" newspaper. The following
link has the paper's rationale for the cartoons.

http://www.jp.dk/udland/tema:fid=11328/

The cartoons:

http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2005/...posten-racism/


Interesting debate, freedom of speech vs. religious sensibilities. To
place it closer to home, to those in the freedom of speech camp,
did you
also support Serrano's freedom to display his **** Christ?

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg...mages/502.html



Hadn't seen it. But, there might be a difference. Muslims believe
it's a bad thing to portray their god in any way at all. Christians
don't have such issues with the mere existence of images of JC. The
*nature* of an image of JC is another issue entirely.


Mohammed isn't the Muslim god. And it is only *some* Muslims who
believe depicting Mohammed is sinful, because there are plenty of
Muslim cities where he is depicted.

What we have now is the simple-minded Muslim rabble being stirred up
for various reasons.


I think every country should arrest and charge/deport any cleric who
preaches hatred & violence.



Will you take Pat Robertson?

Take him where.... out to sea for disposal?

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:41:18 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:



Go do a search at www.npr.org. That's usually the first radio station
I
tune to in the car. Next would be our local right-wing Clear Channel
disaster, WHAM.

The original cartoons were published Sept.30 in Jyllands-Posten. I'm
not
sure, but I don't believe it's a "Christian" newspaper. The following
link has the paper's rationale for the cartoons.

http://www.jp.dk/udland/tema:fid=11328/

The cartoons:

http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2005/...posten-racism/

Interesting debate, freedom of speech vs. religious sensibilities. To
place it closer to home, to those in the freedom of speech camp, did
you
also support Serrano's freedom to display his **** Christ?

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg...mages/502.html


Hadn't seen it. But, there might be a difference. Muslims believe it's a
bad thing to portray their god in any way at all. Christians don't have
such issues with the mere existence of images of JC. The *nature* of an
image of JC is another issue entirely.



Mohammed isn't the Muslim god. And it is only *some* Muslims who believe
depicting Mohammed is sinful, because there are plenty of Muslim cities
where he is depicted.

What we have now is the simple-minded Muslim rabble being stirred up for
various reasons.

I think every country should arrest and charge/deport any cleric who
preaches hatred & violence.


Deport them to where, though? It'll be like a shell game. We'll send ours to
you, you'll send them to Ghana or Iraq, they'll send theirs to you.... :-)


Suppose it would be easier if they were actually born elsewhere....
but Texas seems like a good spot in a pinch.

"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:41:18 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Go do a search at www.npr.org. That's usually the first radio
station I
tune to in the car. Next would be our local right-wing Clear Channel
disaster, WHAM.

The original cartoons were published Sept.30 in Jyllands-Posten.
I'm not
sure, but I don't believe it's a "Christian" newspaper. The
following
link has the paper's rationale for the cartoons.

http://www.jp.dk/udland/tema:fid=11328/

The cartoons:

http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2005/...posten-racism/

Interesting debate, freedom of speech vs. religious sensibilities.
To
place it closer to home, to those in the freedom of speech camp, did
you
also support Serrano's freedom to display his **** Christ?

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg...mages/502.html


Hadn't seen it. But, there might be a difference. Muslims believe it's
a bad thing to portray their god in any way at all. Christians don't
have such issues with the mere existence of images of JC. The *nature*
of an image of JC is another issue entirely.


Mohammed isn't the Muslim god. And it is only *some* Muslims who
believe depicting Mohammed is sinful, because there are plenty of
Muslim cities where he is depicted.

What we have now is the simple-minded Muslim rabble being stirred up
for various reasons.


I think every country should arrest and charge/deport any cleric who
preaches hatred & violence.



Will you take Pat Robertson?

Take him where.... out to sea for disposal?

That would be a good start.