On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:54:33 -0800, Lloyd wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:52:16 +0000, Gene Kearns wrote:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:33:27 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:
A proper Robertson has a tapered bit to fit the screw tightly.

Horse feathers.


AHHHHHHHHHHHGHHGHGHGHGHHHHHH...... (primal scream)....

OK, so I'm fixing the deck today and I got a box of these GD SS
screws. $14/lb..... and I must have stripped out the heads of 6-7
already....

POS..... gimme Torx or SOMETHING.....

You know, I can't remember EVER stripping a Robertson screw. Maybe you
should have spent the $14 on a decent screwdriver?

Lloyd


I've never done so either. I'm wondering if maybe he was using the small size
bit on the large size screw. I *have* tried that, before I realized there were
two sizes!

But he seems to have his act together, so I didn't suggest that.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

Lloyd wrote:

You know, I can't remember EVER stripping a Robertson screw.

Been meaning to ask you, Lioyd, how is your new discussion bored going?

--
Skipper

John H. wrote:


I've never done so either. I'm wondering if maybe he was using the small size
bit on the large size screw. I *have* tried that, before I realized there were
two sizes!

But he seems to have his act together, so I didn't suggest that.

Two sizes???
I have 4 different size Robertson screwdrivers.
http://www.waterlooelectronics.com/s...s_special.html
My smallest is size 0 yellow handle
next size 1 green handle
" size 2 red handle usually for # 8 screws
" size 3 black handle " for # 12 screws

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...es&Params=A219

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:22:41 GMT, Don White wrote:

John H. wrote:


I've never done so either. I'm wondering if maybe he was using the small size
bit on the large size screw. I *have* tried that, before I realized there were
two sizes!

But he seems to have his act together, so I didn't suggest that.

Two sizes???
I have 4 different size Robertson screwdrivers.
http://www.waterlooelectronics.com/s...s_special.html
My smallest is size 0 yellow handle
next size 1 green handle
" size 2 red handle usually for # 8 screws
" size 3 black handle " for # 12 screws

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...es&Params=A219

I've only seen two sizes of slots. But I haven't looked for different sizes.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:21:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:



I've never done so either. I'm wondering if maybe he was using the small size
bit on the large size screw. I *have* tried that, before I realized there were
two sizes!

But he seems to have his act together, so I didn't suggest that.


Thanks for you confidence.... actually, there are three in common
usage. My screwdriver is a 3/8" Milwaukee drill and the bit is a
standard (#2) short insert.

Essentially, the problem is that the stainless is likely a 300 grade
and rather soft. The Robertson head has only four gripping sides. It
is not an accident that most bolts have 6 (not 4) sides.... ditto the
fact that many heavy duty fasteners have 12 sides...

I never had this problem with the Phillips deck screws that were
available during my last go at decking.... AND I could use my *real*
screwgun.... not a drill.

You have a 'real' screwgun? i almost got one for my birthday in August
but couldn't decide if I'd use it enough. I have the Craftsman
'Professional' corded drill/driver with clutch.

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Lloyd" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:52:16 +0000, Gene Kearns wrote:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:33:27 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:
A proper Robertson has a tapered bit to fit the screw tightly.

Horse feathers.


AHHHHHHHHHHHGHHGHGHGHGHHHHHH...... (primal scream)....

OK, so I'm fixing the deck today and I got a box of these GD SS
screws. $14/lb..... and I must have stripped out the heads of 6-7
already....

POS..... gimme Torx or SOMETHING.....

You know, I can't remember EVER stripping a Robertson screw. Maybe you
should have spent the $14 on a decent screwdriver?

Lloyd



The Robertson deck screws come with a driver bit.

I found that the square 'slot' in SS decks stripped out much easier than a
philips head.


Depends on the Philips. The Deck Mates brand have a modified Philips, not a
#2. Rarely strip. Griptite's have a Philip's #2 and they strip all the
time if using a long 2.5 -3" screw in anything but the softest wood.

Not that I know anything, but if you are stripping out screws, maybe you
need to pre-drill the holes?

Just my $0.02 worth (Canadian currency of course).

Glenn.
s/v Seawing
www.seawing.net

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Lloyd wrote:

You know, I can't remember EVER stripping a Robertson screw.

Been meaning to ask you, Lioyd, how is your new discussion bored going?

--
Skipper

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:52:02 GMT, "Glenn A. Heslop"
wrote:

Not that I know anything, but if you are stripping out screws, maybe you
need to pre-drill the holes?

Just my $0.02 worth (Canadian currency of course).

Glenn.
s/v Seawing
www.seawing.net


That was my thought at the beginning, but he didn't buy that idea.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:52:02 GMT, "Glenn A. Heslop"

wrote:

Not that I know anything, but if you are stripping out screws, maybe you
need to pre-drill the holes?

Just my $0.02 worth (Canadian currency of course).

Glenn.
s/v Seawing
www.seawing.net


That was my thought at the beginning, but he didn't buy that idea.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Too much extra work, when you can get a screw that will drive without
predrilling. Looking to replace my 30 year old redwood deck with Trex later
this year. Looking at the Torx drive screws for the composite deck.

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:15:40 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Lloyd wrote:

You know, I can't remember EVER stripping a Robertson screw.

Been meaning to ask you, Lioyd, how is your new discussion bored going?

Kind of a hijack of the thread, but what the hell...

It's going pretty good, thanks for asking. 66 members and 289 posts so
far. My only job as Moderator has been to slap the wrists of someone who
was getting a bit over-zealous against Americans in their marinas.

Lloyd Sumpter
http://www.bcboatnet.org