Many of the regular political posters here would have stood up and
cheered if 6 ~ 14 years ago they saw a person wearing a T-shirt saying
'F**K CLINTON' and now they are insisting that a similar expression
regarding our current President cannot be allowed. That's childish
partisan malarkey, pure & simple. And if this sentiment prevails in our
gov't then we have lost the freedom of speech, pure and simple.


I doubt that. Personally, I wouldn't wear nor approve of anyone
wearing a tee shirt that says "F**K" anyone - I just don't think it's
appropriate in public and I don't particularly want my grand daughter
exposed to that.. I seriously doubt the woman was thrown off the plane
on political grounds and I imagine the result would have been the same
had the shirt read "F**K" Hillary.

"DSK" wrote in message

Excuse me?
Did you just say the U.S. gov't does not subsidize the airline industry?

There was the one-time bailout following the terrorist attacks, which
legislation did include what you could call indirect subsidy in the form of
deferred tax payments, etc. These deferments have, I believe, all passed in
the intervening 4 years. There is also a small program to subsidize
essential air service to small rural communities, comprising some $120M per
annum, a statistical pittance of which, I believe, Southwest does not
partake. Generally speaking, though, the days are long gone when airlines
were broadly subsidized by federal money across the board.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Oh, puh-lease, save that particular crop of crap for your drugged-up
right-wing buddies.

Cha-Ching!!

Excuse me?
Did you just say the U.S. gov't does not subsidize the airline industry?


John Gaquin wrote:
There was the one-time bailout following the terrorist attacks

Correct.
No subsidy there, huh?

... which
legislation did include what you could call indirect subsidy in the form of
deferred tax payments, etc.

If by "etc" you mean guaranteed bond backing & loans (grants really
since nobody expectes them to be paid back, but calling it a "loan"
helps mask the size of the deficit) then yep, right again.

But that's not really a "subsidy" is it? I mean, what's a few billion
among friends right?

... These deferments have, I believe, all passed in
the intervening 4 years.

Bzzzt
But you're 2 for 3 here, pretty good.

... There is also a small program to subsidize
essential air service to small rural communities, comprising some $120M per
annum, a statistical pittance of which, I believe, Southwest does not
partake.

Don't know about that, if true the program doesn't work. Rural air
service sucks, and that's on the east coast near the DC-Boston axis.

... Generally speaking, though, the days are long gone when airlines
were broadly subsidized by federal money across the board.


Other than all the subsidies and unpaid loans, yeah. But who's gonna get
picky about details when you're having a nice little fascist rant?

Actually I'm glad to see that you have at least a slight connection to
reality, even if you forget at times. Perhaps you could keep an eye on
the other members of your little club.

DSK

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I read a lot of political blogs

I don't read any. Got better things to do.

And (this may be a cruel thing to say) if this is what shapes your
political morals, then I'm glad I don't read blogs and will deliberately
stay away from them.


On average, I read an equal amount of left wing and right wing blogs

Yeah I bet.


My observation is that the liberal/lefties are much more vulgar

Well, that may be true in blog-world but it's the exact opposite in the
real world.

Look at the postings in this newsgroup. Who is it that uses the most
vulgar terms? JohnH, "Bert Robbins" P-Fritz etc etc. In other words, the
Hate-Clinton Club for Angry White Men.




On the other hand the other side of the aisle tends to be much more
civil and language tends to be much less hyperbolic.

No, the righties just tend to lie a lot, and when they can't think of a
good enough lie, they call names. You yourself cussed me out not long
ago. Perhaps you've forgotten.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...

Southwest is one of the few truely profitable airlines, according to a
friend who is a pilot for American.

He said the secret of their profitability is that they only fly one type of
airplane, (the Boeing 737 at the time of our conversation). Their spare
parts inventory, technical maintenance staff, pilots and air crew only have
to support and be qualified in the one type of aircraft.

Eisboch

Also I read somewhere that they bought fuel contracts with guaranteed prices
that gives them a significant advantage over other airlines.
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"DSK" wrote in message
...

Southwest is one of the few truely profitable airlines, according to a
friend who is a pilot for American.

He said the secret of their profitability is that they only fly one type
of airplane, (the Boeing 737 at the time of our conversation). Their
spare parts inventory, technical maintenance staff, pilots and air crew
only have to support and be qualified in the one type of aircraft.

Eisboch

Doug,
Do you read rec.boats? It is the liberals in rec.boats who relish in using
vulgar terms (ie ****head, ****head, rectal fissure, etc). The conservative
argue just as much as the liberals, just without the vulgar terms.


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I read a lot of political blogs

I don't read any. Got better things to do.

And (this may be a cruel thing to say) if this is what shapes your
political morals, then I'm glad I don't read blogs and will deliberately
stay away from them.


On average, I read an equal amount of left wing and right wing blogs

Yeah I bet.


My observation is that the liberal/lefties are much more vulgar

Well, that may be true in blog-world but it's the exact opposite in the
real world.

Look at the postings in this newsgroup. Who is it that uses the most
vulgar terms? JohnH, "Bert Robbins" P-Fritz etc etc. In other words, the
Hate-Clinton Club for Angry White Men.




On the other hand the other side of the aisle tends to be much more
civil and language tends to be much less hyperbolic.

No, the righties just tend to lie a lot, and when they can't think of a
good enough lie, they call names. You yourself cussed me out not long ago.
Perhaps you've forgotten.

DSK

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"DSK" wrote in message
...

Southwest is one of the few truely profitable airlines, according to a
friend who is a pilot for American.

He said the secret of their profitability is that they only fly one type
of
airplane, (the Boeing 737 at the time of our conversation). Their spare
parts inventory, technical maintenance staff, pilots and air crew only
have
to support and be qualified in the one type of aircraft.

Eisboch



They also have a short turn around time WRT getting the planes back in the
air..........without in flight service, there is less cleaning etc to
do.................also their leg to leg operation......instead of the
hub/spoke system works to their advantage.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Ah I see - so the political blogs that are coveted places of discourse
by both political parties for advancing their agendas and viewpoints
are not relevant to you because you are better than them?


Not at all. I have work to do and a real life to attend.

I'm not in the least bit interested in "political discourse" nor
"advancing agendas" but rather, what each person does in the real world.
Outgassing a lot of words on the net doesn't affect anything, except it
can generate a unified field of talking heads all agreed on a point. It
gives them a feeling that they're right, but that doesn't change the
real world one bit.



My morals? You are challenging MY morals?

???

Feeling guilty about something?
Other than that you lie to try and make political points, and you think
furriners are bad just because some of them are French, and you've
raised your children to use violence when threatened by ideas, I don't
know a thing about your morals.


My observation is that the liberal/lefties are much more vulgar

Well, that may be true in blog-world but it's the exact opposite in the
real world.


Really?

Prove it.


Tell me Tom, which of the two of us has cussed out the other, using a
long string of vulgar profanities?


Yes I did - politely in fact

WHAT?
You want me to google up your posts following the evolution expose? You
call that polite?

... and you deserved it.


Heres' another lesson in morals- when you are proven wrong on a subject,
instead of admitting your mistake and learning, you say that the other
person deserves to be called names, and if he persists, to be slapped by
your children.

No wonder President Bush thinks torture is OK, when he's backed by
people with your "morals."


And this particular morning, you deserve this too - you are well and
truly an ass Doug.

Yeah. Whatever.
That was polite, right?

I guess calling names is better than facing facts, if you have a certain
political leaning that makes you always right no matter what.

DSK