"Don White" wrote in message
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I wonder if the fine citizens of 'Key West' or 'South Beach' know about
Dr. No and his phobias?


I won't go to South Beach anymore. I've driven there a couple of times
during the day when I was in Miami or Key Biscayne...but mostly to drive
down the strip looking at the women in g-strings. I once had to get out to
use the public restroom by the beach. Big mistake. I walked in, and there
were 9 guys in there, two of whom were kissing. There was **** on the
floor, glory holes in the dividers, and "call 555-5555 for a BJ" on the
walls. I walked right out, and and crossed the street to use the restroom
in the Irish Pub across the street. I decided I'd never visit South Beach
again.

I've only been to Key West once...as a stopover on a cruise ship. I really
don't go to even the northern keys much because my kids are too young to
enjoy it. I'm sure I'll take my boat down to Galleon when the kids get a
little older. From there, I'll hop over to the Tortugas for some fishing.

Personally, I'm pretty darn happy in Southwest Florida. Most of the people
here are from the Midwest, and have Midwestern conservative values...rather
than the NY/NJ liberal attitude that's prevalent on the East Coast of
Florida. We do have a large number of people from Massachusetts, however.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:09:19 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:
I wonder if the fine citizens of 'Key West' or 'South Beach' know about
Dr. No and his phobias?

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The distance between Naples, South Beach and KW is about a million
miles.

"jps" wrote in message
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There's a boy in our neighborhood who came out that way. I've known him
since he was born. He didn't lick anything up off the floor or get
indoctrinated by the television or radio and share his environment with
a large and extended family that has no other gay people. He's 6 and so
obviously gay it's ridiculous.


He's 6? How the hell do you figure he's "gay" at age 6? Do you mean to say
he's "effeminate". That's a far cry from being a homosexual. Perhaps once
he hits puberty, his hormone levels will make him more masculine and his
start liking girls. If not, his doctor can supplement with meds.


That's Mother Nature at work, not "lifestyle *choice*."

Bull****. If he's effeminate, then that's Mother Nature. If he ends up
liking other men, then that's a lifestyle *choice*.



The other good one I hear from the right on this issue is the AIDS
argument.
"Gays
spread AIDS and other diseases, and if we allow them to marry our
health
care
costs
will go through the roof." What a crock.

Gays *do* spread AIDs and other sexually transmitted diseases at a much
higher rate *proportionately* than heterosexuals. Letting them marry
won't
raise the rate of AIDS...unless more kids grow up to be gay because
their
"parents" were gay.

You silly dweeb. If you're in a legally committed relationship, you're
far less likely to stray and spread, no?

Yup. Those in the relationship are less likely to spread diseases. But if
you raise kids in a gay household, I'd venture to say that it's more likely
the kids will be gay. When those kids grow up, there's a high likelihood
that they'll have more sexual partners on average than heterosexuals...and
statistically, homosexual sex spreads more STD's (and AIDS) than
heterosexual sex.

Bull****. If he's effeminate, then that's Mother Nature. If he ends up
liking other men, then that's a lifestyle *choice*.

Do you remember the day you "chose" between straight and gay?

Gays don't chose to be gay, any more than the rest of choose to be hetero.

Yup. Those in the relationship are less likely to spread diseases. But if
you raise kids in a gay household, I'd venture to say that it's more likely
the kids will be gay.

Not according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

I'd venture to say there are no statistics, at all, to back up your wild
assertion.
Kids who grow up in a gay household are more likely to understand and respect
the gay lifestyle, but no hetero guy is going to
suppress his natural desire for women and force himself to have sex with men
simply because he had two dads at home.

It's not a "choice" for straights. It's not a "choice" for gays.

The only choice a gay person has is to be gay or to repress his or her
sexuality entirely. For those who believe that these people are an evil threat
to the fabric of society, I suppose that is what you would prefer they do. If
they're not going to have sex like you do, then they shouldn't be allowed to
have sex at all. Right?

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bush 'disappointed' by gay marriage ban's defeat
Foes of Senate amendment decry 'political tool'

Thursday, July 15, 2004 Posted: 5:24 AM EDT (0924 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush says he is "disappointed" that a move
to effectively ban same-sex marriage was "temporarily blocked" in the
Senate, and he is urging the House to take up the matter.

"Activist judges and local officials in some parts of the country are
not letting up in their efforts to redefine marriage for the rest of
America, and neither should defenders of traditional marriage flag in
their efforts," Bush said in a statement.
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Awwwwwwwww....hopefully, Bush will have a really big disappointment in
November.

I still cannot figure out why the Fundie Repugs believe "same-sex
marriage" is a threat to heterosexual marriage

It's a threat to the well-being of kids growing up in such a screwed up
environment. It's the moral decay of a society which is dominated by
homosexuality. You think it's not a problem? Look at the history of
civilizations in which homosexuality flourished.



Bull****.

Household "A": Single parent - kids go to day care after school.
Household "B": One of the two gay parents is always home after school.
Household "C" "Straight" family, kid supervision, if lucky falls into
category "B".

"B" and "C" win. "A" is a maybe.

By the way, you have no information to indicate that children from gay
couples have more problems than other kids.