noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



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harry,

i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for bush,
ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when
attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites, wargames, and
religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever happened to
this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for that.

terror will not be defeated on the battlefield, and it surely will not be
defeated by giving allies ultimatums and shooting the finger at anybody that
doesnt fall in line. these concepts and ideas are too complex for the redneck
foxnews idiots in this country.

why you, jps, gould and the others engage these clowns in here is beyond me.
what is the point? talk with people who have an open mind and can see this for
what it is. that is our only hope. the swing voters are the key, not these
pricks. stop ****ing in the wind.

chris



Subject: OT The Conservative Brain
From: Harry Krause
Date: 8/4/03 5:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



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email sent to will *never* get to me.

Jamce1 wrote:
harry,

i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for bush,
ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when
attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites, wargames, and
religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever happened to
this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for that.

I'm sure there are Bush-ites who are praying to Allah for another attack
so that their "fearful leader" can try, once again, to look
"presidential," instead of lookling like an idiot.





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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jamce1 wrote:
harry,

i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for
bush,
ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when
attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites,
wargames, and
religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever
happened to
this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for
that.

I'm sure there are Bush-ites who are praying to Allah for another attack
so that their "fearful leader" can try, once again, to look
"presidential," instead of lookling like an idiot.

That's where Dems and Republicans differ. We'd never hope for tragedy and
suffering just to further our agenda. You guys, however, were caught
red-handed in California trying to prolong the budget crisis. You're a
bunch of sick *******s that aren't worth a piece of dried up dog poop on the
bottom of some bum's sole.

"NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jamce1 wrote:
harry,

i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for
bush,
ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when
attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites,
wargames, and
religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever
happened to
this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for
that.

I'm sure there are Bush-ites who are praying to Allah for another attack
so that their "fearful leader" can try, once again, to look
"presidential," instead of lookling like an idiot.

That's where Dems and Republicans differ. We'd never hope for tragedy and
suffering just to further our agenda. You guys, however, were caught
red-handed in California trying to prolong the budget crisis. You're a
bunch of sick *******s that aren't worth a piece of dried up dog poop on the
bottom of some bum's sole.

Oh, really? Bu****es are hoping to get re-elected JUST on tragedy.
What else do they have? Economy? I guess they could hope to get
re-elected on the premise that they put us back into the dark ages
with the Patriot Act.