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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:55:14 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

More like satisfaction with our clairvoyance.


Sept 11 -- 9/11 Sept 11 -- 9/11

You knew about it? Treason!
High Crimes and Misdemeanors!!!
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Stolen from the internet:


A Frank Study on What Makes a Political Liberal
You've probably heard about the Berkeley study done with your tax dollars on
what makes a political conservative. Here are the factors they identified:

* Fear and aggression
* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
* Uncertainty avoidance
* Need for cognitive closure
* Terror management

Funny enough, I had been doing my own study about what makes a political
liberal. I think mine was much more efficient, because I traced it to a
single factor:

* They're f'ing morons

As evidence of this finding, just listen to any liberal. Ever read anything
from Noam Chomsky? What a dumbass. Ever seen an article in The Nation? You
can almost imagine the drool stains on the original copy of whomever wrote
it. Heard Michael Moore speak? Than man is fat and ugly! While that doesn't
prove or disprove my theory, he's also a nitwit, which goes with my
findings.

And ever see a bunch of liberals get together for a protest? It's like a
whole gaggle of retards! You almost expect, that with that much stupidity in
one area, it will collapse upon itself and from a logic black hole, sucking
in all sense that gets near it.

And then there is liberal Hollywood where people are about as dumb as you
can be without forgetting to breathe. It's like that to get into Hollywood
you need to take an intelligence test, and they'll only let you in if it
comes up negative.

Then there are liberal congressmen and women. I've seen them argue on
C-SPAN, and they're so moronic I want to hit them with rocks (there's that
aggression).

Well, I think my study was pretty thorough on what makes a liberal, but what
I really want to find is how to cure it. Liberals seems to protect their
idiocy by forming some sort of force field of pure stupidity, a force field
so strong that logic can't penetrate it. What can penetrate it, though, is a
large stick. Such an item is known to the scientific community as a "whomp'n
stick".

What I want to find out is if by whomp'n a liberal whenever he says
something stupid, can I train him away from liberalism through pure pain
avoidance. My theory is that it will cause conservatism as defined by the
Berkeley study:

* Fear and aggression - Fear of a whomp'n
* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity - "Are you going to whomp me or
not?"
* Uncertainty avoidance - "I'll stay quiet so I don't get whomped."
* Need for cognitive closure - "Someone patch up this head wound."
* Terror management - "I'll crouch in the corner and be quiet so the scary
man doesn't whomp me."

So there is the study: will a group of liberal who gets whomped have more
converts to conservatism than a control group with no whomp'n.

Ahh... screw the control group; I'm going to whomp 'em both.

Now all I need is millions in a government grant and a stick fit for
whomp'n.

Oh, and I'll need liberal volunteers. The Berkeley scientists from the
previous study are sure free to help out in this one.

WHOMP! WHOMP!



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Hey,,
Somebody needs to fiscally responsibly run the country or other countries. I
mean your socialist friends would spend their way into poverty and end up
with nothing. If you dont like the way the country is running, just sit back
in your arm chair, collect your welfare and go play bingo. Leave the big
things to those who know how to do them better. If not for you, for the sake
of the entire nation's survival.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the conservative
brain?

A press release from UC Berkeley announced that researchers, culling
50 years of data, had identified psychological patterns common to the
minds of right-wingers. Their findings, published in the American
Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin, listed these
predictors of conservatism: fear, aggression, dogmatism,
authoritarianism, tolerance of inequality, intolerance of ambiguity,
resistance to change and lack of "integrative complexity" in thought
and speech. Hardly a flattering portrait.

The release pushed further, noting that "disparate conservatives" such
as Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and Rush Limbaugh each preached a
return to an idealized past and condoned inequality.

The research is serious scholarship, insist the authors from Stanford,
U.C. Berkeley and the University of Maryland synthesized 88 previously
published samples involving 22,818 participants from 12 countries into
10 "meta-analytic calculations."

The study starts by assuming that people adopt a belief system such as
conservatism partly to satisfy some psychological need. "This does not
mean that conservatism is pathological," the authors hasten to note,
"or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational or
unprincipled."

As Seinfeld might add, "not that there's anything wrong with that . .
. ."

The authors also maintain they're not judgmental. Labeling
conservatives" less integratively complex," isn't precisely the same
as saying they're simple- minded. It merely means conservatives aren't
compelled to jump through complex,

intellectual hoops to justify their relatively black-and-white view of
the world.

One of the researchers' methods involved analyzing political speeches
and judicial opinions on the basis of structural complexity.
Conservatives thought and spoke more simply -- hence President Bush's
observation "Look, my job isn't to nuance."



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"NOYB" wrote in message
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Stolen from the internet:


Feeble retort to many man years of honest work. Figures your hero's "cure"
for liberals is violence. These days it seems conservatives are finding
violence to be the tool they resort to most frequently.

Hurts their brains to do any of that deep thinking or have any manner of
patience, it's simpler to just kick some ass and figure out what happened
later. Meanwhile, 250 of our kids and countless innocents have paid for it
with their lives.

F'ing idiots.


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Tuuk wrote:

Hey,,
Somebody needs to fiscally responsibly run the country or other countries. I
mean your socialist friends would spend their way into poverty and end up
with nothing. If you dont like the way the country is running, just sit back
in your arm chair, collect your welfare and go play bingo. Leave the big
things to those who know how to do them better. If not for you, for the sake
of the entire nation's survival.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the conservative
brain?

A press release from UC Berkeley announced that researchers, culling
50 years of data, had identified psychological patterns common to the
minds of right-wingers. Their findings, published in the American
Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin, listed these
predictors of conservatism: fear, aggression, dogmatism,
authoritarianism, tolerance of inequality, intolerance of ambiguity,
resistance to change and lack of "integrative complexity" in thought
and speech. Hardly a flattering portrait.

The release pushed further, noting that "disparate conservatives" such
as Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and Rush Limbaugh each preached a
return to an idealized past and condoned inequality.

The research is serious scholarship, insist the authors from Stanford,
U.C. Berkeley and the University of Maryland synthesized 88 previously
published samples involving 22,818 participants from 12 countries into
10 "meta-analytic calculations."

The study starts by assuming that people adopt a belief system such as
conservatism partly to satisfy some psychological need. "This does not
mean that conservatism is pathological," the authors hasten to note,
"or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational or
unprincipled."

As Seinfeld might add, "not that there's anything wrong with that . .
. ."

The authors also maintain they're not judgmental. Labeling
conservatives" less integratively complex," isn't precisely the same
as saying they're simple- minded. It merely means conservatives aren't
compelled to jump through complex,

intellectual hoops to justify their relatively black-and-white view of
the world.

One of the researchers' methods involved analyzing political speeches
and judicial opinions on the basis of structural complexity.
Conservatives thought and spoke more simply -- hence President Bush's
observation "Look, my job isn't to nuance."




Fiscally responsible? Then you surely don't want a Republican in the
White House.

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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 +0000, Harry Krause wrote:


It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last
week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make
Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky
marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a
skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50
years? I don't think so.


They sure do bounce around. It's a little like watching a game of
Three Card Monty, only not as slick.
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.


As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah



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noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.


As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah


I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



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harry,

i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for bush,
ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when
attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites, wargames, and
religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever happened to
this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for that.

terror will not be defeated on the battlefield, and it surely will not be
defeated by giving allies ultimatums and shooting the finger at anybody that
doesnt fall in line. these concepts and ideas are too complex for the redneck
foxnews idiots in this country.

why you, jps, gould and the others engage these clowns in here is beyond me.
what is the point? talk with people who have an open mind and can see this for
what it is. that is our only hope. the swing voters are the key, not these
pricks. stop ****ing in the wind.

chris



Subject: OT The Conservative Brain
From: Harry Krause
Date: 8/4/03 5:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.


As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah


I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



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Jamce1 wrote:
harry,

i think what is being lost here is that another attack would be good for bush,
ie simple minded people will always revert back to basic instincts when
attacked. he makes people feel good and safe with his soundbites, wargames, and
religeous good vs evil bull****. 911 was the best thing that ever happened to
this administration, and he would surely be one term if it wasnt for that.


I'm sure there are Bush-ites who are praying to Allah for another attack
so that their "fearful leader" can try, once again, to look
"presidential," instead of lookling like an idiot.





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