OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

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Asians *are* orientals you idiot.




Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few
Asians

you

meet and see sort of reaction you get?

"With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left, I will
kick

your

nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a good
look
at
my
face. I'm an Oriental."

Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987)




Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40 years
more
education than you? You've just provided a perfect example of why
I
said
that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from movies.



Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read
serious
books...


I don't think "They Still Call Me Bruce" was offered in written
format.
I'll be sure to check next time I'm at my local library.




You know, despite your absolute ignorance, social ineptitude, bad
manners and political incorrectness, I'd still go fishing with you
and
possibly let you examine my toofs. Even though you really are an
asshole.

Top that.

If that ever happens, please give me advance notice. I'll bring the
cinder
blocks, chains, and ammo.


You guys sure have funny ways of catching fish up north.




I was referring to the possibility of it being a one way trip for you.



No kidding.

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

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NOYB wrote:
Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large
audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social
functions,
and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush.

OK, but that doesn't make it fact.

My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent
thought.

I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant
people
were very poor speakers.

It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid.


Of course, it's natural to assume that people who mangle words when
speaking
publicly are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Afterall, they don't
exactly sound "smart" when they're butchering their native language.

I had to do speech theraphy when I was young......I was scoring off the
charts on standardized tests, but teachers could barely understand
me.....apprently I was thinking to fast and my mouth could not keep up :-)


I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking
one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's
meeting with the other World leaders in person.


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

Yes.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade!

You're welcome.

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

NOYB wrote:
I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people
were very poor speakers.

Name two.

IMHO you're assuming this as a corollary to a very obvious fact, that
some of the best, most polished, and plausible speakers are not as smart
as they sound.



I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking
one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's
meeting with the other World leaders in person.

You mean, effective at making other world leaders mistrust & dislike him?


BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade!


You're welcome.

If you were a poker player you'd be dropping your cards on the floor.

DSK

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

P.Fritz wrote:
It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid.

Umm, no. GWB's problem is that he uses words wrong, spews a word salad
of sentence fragments, mangles syntax, and cannot express any concept
clearly no matter how many words he uses.

DSK

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

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I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting
"Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians
"Orientals".

Asians *are* orientals you idiot.




Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you
meet and see sort of reaction you get?



Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on

the

"disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient".

Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line
dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The
definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated
as offensive. Always.



Not he

http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Oriental

Oh, yes they are! The Webster definition "there" is
from a 1913 dictionary, which is now badly out of date.
The other one there explicitly says, "for people of
South and East Asian ancestry the term `Asian' is
preferred to `Oriental'"

You stupid ****.


or here

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental%20person

Oh, yes it does! If you click on "Oriental" in the
list of synonyms, it says *exactly* what the one above
does: "for people of South and East Asian ancestry the
term `Asian' is preferred to `Oriental'".


or here

http://www.wordiq.com/dictionary/oriental.html

Oh, yes it does! The same again. ALLLLLLL your
citations say "for people of South and East Asian
ancestry the term `Asian' is preferred to `Oriental'".


In fact, I cannot find anything on the net that refers to the use of the
word Oriental as offensive.

Yes, you can: you already have.

Here are a couple mo

3 often capitalized, sometimes offensive : ASIAN
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...iental&x=0&y=0


n. often Oriental Often Offensive. An Asian.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oriental


taboo term: a highly offensive term for somebody
from eastern Asia
Encarta online dictionary

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

DSK wrote:
NOYB wrote:

I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant
people
were very poor speakers.


Name two.

IMHO you're assuming this as a corollary to a very obvious fact, that
some of the best, most polished, and plausible speakers are not as smart
as they sound.



What? Tony Blair isn't as sharp as he sounds?

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking
one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's
meeting with the other World leaders in person.

How do you know he's effective under those circumstances? Been there with
him?

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large
audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social
functions,
and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush.

OK, but that doesn't make it fact.

My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates
incoherent
thought.

I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant
people
were very poor speakers.

It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid.

Stuttering (now referred to as "fluency" by speech pathologists) is an
entirely different symptom, per my ex wife, who's been an SLP for about 17
years. It's as connected with Bush's situation as fish are to bicycles.

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
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... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd
give
them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is
as
much of an attention span as he could muster.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in
Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in
today.
That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil
dependency.

That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls
for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent on
research and development of alternative energy means.

January 31, 2003

Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money
By SCOTT SONNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in
oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half
the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other
alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday.

OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
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... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd
give
them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is
as
much of an attention span as he could muster.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in
Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in
today.
That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil
dependency.

That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls
for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent
on
research and development of alternative energy means.

January 31, 2003

Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money
By SCOTT SONNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in
oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half
the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other
alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday.




Did the rest of your article mention that 70% of such oil leases have
produced nothing over the past 20 years, and that the ones which *do*
produce are only providing about 3% of our needs?

My point is that your boy needs to come up with a REAL vision, one which
doesn't involve wasting time looking for oil. He has no such vision.