OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
 

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:26:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


What's really ridiculous about your claim is that when I type "good
speaker" and "thomas jefferson" into google, the first two results I get
have the words "not a" before "good speaker". Show me an instance where
somebody described Jefferson as a good speaker.

I'm wondering if our modern definition of a "good speaker" is the same as
Jefferson's contemporaries. In the time before mass media, oratory was
the way a politician addressed the public. Speeches sometimes lasted
hours and could incite riots. Perhaps Jefferson was less effective in
this aspect.

Less effective than Bush in inciting riots? Perhaps. ;-)


Bush's lack of ability in public speaking doesn't necessarily reflect on
his intelligence, nor do his frequent "misspeaks", factual errors,
grammatical errors, and miss-pronunciations. They do, however, exhibit an
intellectual laziness and lack of preparation unworthy of the President of
the United States.

I've listed several successful and effective presidents or prominant figures
in government who were known as poor speakers. I don't think it's quite the
handicap you make it out to be.

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Asians *are* orientals you idiot.




Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next
few
Asians
you
meet and see sort of reaction you get?

"With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left,
I
will
kick
your
nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a
good
look
at
my
face. I'm an Oriental."

Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987)




Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40
years
more
education than you? You've just provided a perfect example
of
why
I
said
that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from
movies.



Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read
serious
books...

Or maybe even a real newspaper or magazine whose articles take
longer
than
38 seconds to read....

That's because of my adult ADD.


I scored a whopping 82 on this quiz:
http://psychcentral.com/addquiz.htm

I guess I'm in good company though:
http://www.oneaddplace.com/famous.htm



Time for excuses, eh?

It's not an excuse. If a topic doesn't interest me, I don't have
the
ability to focus my thoughts on it for very long. If I find it
interesting,
I have the ability to "hyper-focus" my thoughts on it and analyze
the
details like nobody else. In my profession, this trait is all that
matters.

Does this explain why you have little or no ability to apply the
lessons
of
history to current events?


Quite the contrary. When legitimate parallels between historical and
current events are presented to me, I spend a lot of time reading
historical
references to learn more.




Good. Read up on our adventures in the Phillippines.


The key phrase in my paragraph: *LEGITIMATE PARALLELS*.

But I will "read up on the Phillippines".

Can you provide a specific period or time frame that you're alluding to? My
ADD will not allow me to spend hours sifting through two centuries of
US/Filipino history to find a parallel that may or may not exist.

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Quite the contrary. When legitimate parallels between historical and
current events are presented to me, I spend a lot of time reading
historical
references to learn more.




Good. Read up on our adventures in the Phillippines.


The key phrase in my paragraph: *LEGITIMATE PARALLELS*.

But I will "read up on the Phillippines".

Can you provide a specific period or time frame that you're alluding to?
My
ADD will not allow me to spend hours sifting through two centuries of
US/Filipino history to find a parallel that may or may not exist.

1898 through present. Try:
"In Our Image - America's Empire in the Phillippines", by Stanley Karnow.
There is no better chronicle on the subject.

It's an actual book, by the way. Barnes & Noble has used copies available,
and you library may have it. That's a building where you can borrow books.

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"basskisser" wrote in message

You are getting more stupid by the day. Getting any pictures of
"children in the biblical sense" lately?

pictures in the biblical sense. now that's a new one. LOL

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

John Gaquin wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message

You are getting more stupid by the day. Getting any pictures of
"children in the biblical sense" lately?


pictures in the biblical sense. now that's a new one. LOL




Since you apparently have not learned anything since being tossed out of
the 4th grade, I suspect much in life is "a new one" to you.

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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John Gaquin wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message

You are getting more stupid by the day. Getting any pictures of
"children in the biblical sense" lately?


pictures in the biblical sense. now that's a new one. LOL




Since you apparently have not learned anything since being tossed out of
the 4th grade, I suspect much in life is "a new one" to you.

Momma bear coming to the defense of baby bear....how touching.

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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Quite the contrary. When legitimate parallels between historical
and
current events are presented to me, I spend a lot of time reading
historical
references to learn more.




Good. Read up on our adventures in the Phillippines.


The key phrase in my paragraph: *LEGITIMATE PARALLELS*.

But I will "read up on the Phillippines".

Can you provide a specific period or time frame that you're alluding to?
My
ADD will not allow me to spend hours sifting through two centuries of
US/Filipino history to find a parallel that may or may not exist.

1898 through present. Try:
"In Our Image - America's Empire in the Phillippines", by Stanley Karnow.
There is no better chronicle on the subject.

The problem with obtaining knowledge from such a book lies in the fact that
the word "Empire" has such negative connotations. Before I even open the
book, I've already formed an opinion about how the author is about to spin
our relationship with the Filipinos.


I prefer a little less subjective source that simply gives me historical
names, dates, and significant occurances as they relate to the United States
and the Philippines.

In the little digging around that I've done (in the last 38 seconds), I'm
already having a hard time seeing a parallel to our current involvement in
Iraq. The Filipinos were fighting a revolution against Spain. We beat
Spain in the Spanish-American war...and then "bought" the Philippines,
Puerto Rico, and several other islands. In other words, we bought an island
that had spent centuries as a Colony, but the prior 3 years fighting for
independence from that outside controlling force...and then we tried to
colonize them again.

I just don't see the parallel with Iraq. Who is supposed to play the role
of Spain? Where was the 3 year revolution prior to our arrival? And,
finally, how are we "colonizing" Iraq? We're turning the country over to
the Iraqis.

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:10:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message

You are getting more stupid by the day. Getting any pictures of
"children in the biblical sense" lately?


pictures in the biblical sense. now that's a new one. LOL




Since you apparently have not learned anything since being tossed out of
the 4th grade, I suspect much in life is "a new one" to you.

Maybe you could provide an explanation if you are so familiar with the subject.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

John H wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:10:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


John Gaquin wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message


You are getting more stupid by the day. Getting any pictures of
"children in the biblical sense" lately?


pictures in the biblical sense. now that's a new one. LOL




Since you apparently have not learned anything since being tossed out of
the 4th grade, I suspect much in life is "a new one" to you.


Maybe you could provide an explanation if you are so familiar with the subject.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



Sure...the reference is to knowledge in the "biblical sense," and in
plain English, it means carnal or sexual knowledge of..."

HK, graduate etymologist. (Indeed, totally useless knowledge, except for
those who appreciated and wanted what was once called a "classical"
education. I got my trade school knowledge outside of college.)


Tell me more about that flash...

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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Quite the contrary. When legitimate parallels between historical
and
current events are presented to me, I spend a lot of time reading
historical
references to learn more.




Good. Read up on our adventures in the Phillippines.


The key phrase in my paragraph: *LEGITIMATE PARALLELS*.

But I will "read up on the Phillippines".

Can you provide a specific period or time frame that you're alluding
to?
My
ADD will not allow me to spend hours sifting through two centuries of
US/Filipino history to find a parallel that may or may not exist.

1898 through present. Try:
"In Our Image - America's Empire in the Phillippines", by Stanley
Karnow.
There is no better chronicle on the subject.

The problem with obtaining knowledge from such a book lies in the fact
that
the word "Empire" has such negative connotations. Before I even open the
book, I've already formed an opinion about how the author is about to spin
our relationship with the Filipinos.


I prefer a little less subjective source that simply gives me historical
names, dates, and significant occurances as they relate to the United
States
and the Philippines.

In the little digging around that I've done (in the last 38 seconds), I'm
already having a hard time seeing a parallel to our current involvement in
Iraq. The Filipinos were fighting a revolution against Spain. We beat
Spain in the Spanish-American war...and then "bought" the Philippines,
Puerto Rico, and several other islands. In other words, we bought an
island
that had spent centuries as a Colony, but the prior 3 years fighting for
independence from that outside controlling force...and then we tried to
colonize them again.

I just don't see the parallel with Iraq. Who is supposed to play the role
of Spain? Where was the 3 year revolution prior to our arrival? And,
finally, how are we "colonizing" Iraq? We're turning the country over to
the Iraqis.






Where did you get your information in 38 seconds?