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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more

"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King

James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of

that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no
debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term
to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?


I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still
used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.



This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.


Not my problem. Next time pick a better college.

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Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

Address the point, dummy: Bush was NOT referencing the
"ancient" Greek people when he STUPIDLY said "Grecians".




This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.



Not my problem. Next time pick a better college.

Tell us the name of a university or college in which
students are taught to refer to contemporary
inhabitants of Greece as "Grecians".

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more

"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King

James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of

that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except
for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used
to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern
(?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no
debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term
to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?


I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was
previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still
used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.



This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.


Not my problem. Next time pick a better college.

Of course you are assuming he went to college. There is no more resaon to
believe he studied classics in college than to believe he owns a lobsta boat
and has a doctor doctor wife :-)

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:57:46 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954

......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.


Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray. You seem quite a bit
dumber than the rest...except, perhaps for basskisser. Perhaps you two are
related?

No one deserves that kind of comparison, for anything!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education
than
you do.

I'm 33. Are you 73?

Of course, you could be talking "formal education". If you count pre-k
and
kindergarten as "formal education", I have 22 years of "formal
education".
Assuming you started pre-k at age 4, you'd need to be 66 years old to
have
40 more years of education.

You know exactly what I mean.



No. I really don't.


Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....


I'd ask him why he doesn't try Zyban and Nicoderm instead.

Nice squirm!

Ok. I'd ask him why he's seeing a sleepwalker.

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NOYB wrote:



You stupid, STUPID fat ****. Read it and weep.

From the CIA World Factbook,


Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.

Except when it provides for President Fratboy's
preconceived notion to invade the country that
humiliated his daddy, right?


The key word in my sentence was "anymore". Didn't you notice Tenet's and
the other high level resignations recently?



Say it, ****wit: the contemporary inhabitants of
Greece are Greeks, NEVER "Grecians". Say it, you
stupid ****.


OK. "It, you stupid ****".

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.

Yeah, the heck with those guys... they tried to tell Buch & Cheney that
Iraq probably did not have WMDs... friggin' dummies, what do *they*
know...

No they didn't. I believe the exact words Tenet used when telling Bush that
Saddam had WMD were "it's a slam dunk".

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"****tard" wrote in message

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more

"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King

James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of

that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no
debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term
to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?


I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still
used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?

You are (barely) smart enough to understand that when
****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people". Please...you are, aren't you?

What is a "****tard"? Does that mean your mom ****ed a retarded boy that
was carrying out her groceries...and POOF...out popped you...****tard!

NOYB wrote:
"****tard" wrote in message
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jim-- wrote:



I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?

You are (barely) smart enough to understand that when
****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people". Please...you are, aren't you?


What is a

Forget about that, dummy; it's not important. We just
want to know if you are smart enough to understand that
when ****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people", and THEREFORE used a wrong word.

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
As nouns Greek and Grecian may not be completely interchangable.

Hello! Hello! Anybody there?


Oh, so you agree with this part of my link.

... Both
Greek and Grecian can reference a person.

No they can't.


....but not this part. Isn't that convenient.


People who live in the country of Greece are Greek. An object _might_ be
referred to as Grecian, but the most recent reference I can think of is
Keat's 'Ode To A Grecian Urn' and that was written in 1819 and used the
word 'Grecian' as a poetic device.

... For example, you could say, "the
Grecian sat in a dark corner of the restaraunt, keeping an eye on the
partners' dealings."

You could say that if you are either 1- a moron or 2- a really desperate
Bush lackey trying hard to cover up option #1.


I didn't write it...and I have no idea if the person who wrote it is a
moron or a Bush lackey. But, I do know that people write to the author for
his expert opinion. How many letters do you get for *your* expert opinion?