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Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND
missed
the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.

"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.

Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.

You keep believing that...and I'll keep believing you're the dumbest
poster
to hit the pages of rec.boats.

Sheesh. "ONLY an adjective; never a noun". Now, you add the caveat "in
modern usage". Keep squirming, turd. Soon you'll just be a pile of
poop...instead of a twisting mass of fecal matter.




OK, NOYB, maybe he said it. That part's over. But, you still argue that
"Grecian" is in common usage NOWADAYS as a noun. Prove it.


No. If he said it, then Bush misspoke. However, he did not make the word
up.

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Doug Kanter wrote:


Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed

the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.

"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.

Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.

You keep believing that...and I'll keep believing you're the dumbest

poster

to hit the pages of rec.boats.

Sheesh. "ONLY an adjective; never a noun". Now, you add the caveat "in
modern usage". Keep squirming, turd. Soon you'll just be a pile of
poop...instead of a twisting mass of fecal matter.




OK, NOYB, maybe he said it. That part's over. But, you still argue that
"Grecian" is in common usage NOWADAYS as a noun. Prove it.



No. If he said it, then Bush misspoke. However, he did not make the word
up.



Bush, no doubt, has heard of Grecian Formula 44, and probably thinks it
is a cough drop.

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Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in
the
White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to
imply
that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a
noun,
is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his
Bible
studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about
archeologists
digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to
describe
inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up word,
but
it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's going
to
a
somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.

A somnambulist? You better check your dictionary. Then you'll get my
one-sentence response.

No thank, NOYB. In the 1800s, a person who attempted to practice hypnotism
(usually at carnivals, alongside the snake oil vendors) was called a
somnambulist because their victims usually fell asleep.

Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education than
you do. Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....

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Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND



missed

the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.



"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.



Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.




You keep believing that



I shall, because it's true. You should accept it, too, but because
you're a troglodyte, you won't. Your loss, furry one.



As someone who "wasted" six years of his life getting a "classical"
university education (B.A. and M.A.), I can state that I have not
encountered the word "Grecian" in modern usage as a noun. Once again,
if Bush used it as a noun, it was out of ignorance.

You are correct.


"Grecian" as a noun was in use by some until about the middle of the
19th century, but usage faded significantly after that.

"faded"? How about "disappeared"?


No one other than Dubya Dumb refers to modern-day Greeks as Grecians,

You're probably wrong on that, but it's safe to say no
EDUCATED and aware person refers to modern-day Greeks
as "Grecians".

and he only does that out of ignornace. Remember that while an undergrad
at Yale, Bush majored in what served as that college's fraternity
life...drinking, snorting coke, chasing skirts and generally avoiding
academia.

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.


"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and
"Grecians"
are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"
than
your
"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or
were
you
a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of
ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to
refer
to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their
culture?


Ask The Grammarian


If you have a question about grammar or the mechanics of writing
please email


Greek v Grecian

Why is it Greek food, but a Grecian urn? When does one use Greek as an
adjective, and when does one use Grecian?

Carole Love


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Hi Carole,

Sorry this reply took so long -- I've been deployed with my unit and
it's taking some time to get things caught up now that I'm back.

Greek and Grecian are completely interchangable as adjectives. To be
sure, I checked several dictionaries and most of my extensive grammar
resources. I even did an online search. The two words are completely
interchangable as adjectives, right down to calling a person either Greek or
Grecian.

As nouns Greek and Grecian may not be completely interchangable. Both
Greek and Grecian can reference a person. For example, you could say, "the
Grecian sat in a dark corner of the restaraunt, keeping an eye on the
partners' dealings." None of my sources, however, showed Grecian as a
reference to the language, but I personally wouldn't exclude it as a
possibility.

Hope that helps.


Godspeed,

Dave

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous" than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.


I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were you
a Monarch Notes kid?

I am not a believer, so I don't read any bible.


The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop!

"Translations" of the King James? Heh heh heh...

If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?

Derivatively wrong.

Or, they would be, except most of the newer versions
are NOT derived from the King James version.

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.


Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray. You seem quite a

bit


dumber than the rest...except, perhaps for basskisser. Perhaps you

two

are



related?

"Grecian" is another name for a "greek". Go get a dictionary. Maybe

one


of



the smarter liberals could read it to you.





Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed


the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.




Well, "Grecian" may be used as a noun


Uh-oh...your mentor doesn't agree with you, Doug. See what happens when

you

follow the stupid likes of ****tard and basskisser?




...but no one really uses it as one. And Bush's use of it was out of
ignorance, not out of knowledge of language or nuance of usage.


Bush frequently quotes from the bible...sometimes to a fault. The King
James version of the Bible uses the term "Grecian" to describe people of
Greece, so it's logical to conclude that Bush picked up the word "Grecian"
from the bible.

Nevertheless, Kanter and ****tard have tried to argue that it's not a noun.
That's just dumb.

You stupid, STUPID fat ****. Read it and weep.

From the CIA World Factbook, Greece:

Nationality:

noun: Greek(s)
adjective: Greek

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...gr.html#People


God ****ING damn it, you stupid possum-****ing fat
****, you are TRYING to be stupid, and by golly, you
are succeeding admirably!

NO ONE with even a pretense of being educated, let
alone actually being educated, refers to the Greeks as
"Grecians" - NO ****ING ONE, you imbecile.

Just admit it, ****wit: you are wrong, and you're too
GODDAMNED ****ING PIGHEADED to acknowledge your error
and move on.

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Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in

the

White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to

imply

that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a

noun,

is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his

Bible

studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about

archeologists

digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to

describe

inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up word,

but

it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's going

to

a

somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.

A somnambulist? You better check your dictionary. Then you'll get my
one-sentence response.


No thank, NOYB. In the 1800s, a person who attempted to practice hypnotism
(usually at carnivals, alongside the snake oil vendors) was called a
somnambulist because their victims usually fell asleep.

Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education than
you do.

Which you would have even if you were only 19, as that
****wit NOYB is clearly a NEGATIVELY educated goof.

Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....

The ****wit's friends don't quit smoking; too stupid.

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"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954



......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?





NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to refer
to the ancient people of Rome.

WRONGO, jimbo. "grecian" is not a noun in current
usage AT ALL.

You probably refer to modern inhabitants of Israel as
"Israelites", DON'T you, ****wit?

God, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.


"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and
"Grecians"
are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more
"famous"
than
your
"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or
were
you
a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King
James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of
that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of
ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to
refer
to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their
culture?

I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?