When would you board someone else's boat??
 

Thanks for offering support to people that abuse/kill domesticated animals.
I hope you get whats coming to you, soon.

"John Smith" wrote in message
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That he was a very smart person to move away.


"Don" wrote in message
...
What was your opinion of the neighbor?

"John Smith" wrote in message
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I think your neighbor's neighbor was one sick dude.


"Don" wrote in message
...

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Don wrote:

Drama? You call that drama? Puss.
I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the
door
and
when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next
week
with
the
dead carcass.

I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the
responsibility
of another, and then abuses it.
An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne
colored
cat
that
they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal,
him
and
I
got
along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office
lounging
across the top of my Plotter in the sun.

One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal
splattered
on
the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I
intended to
bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to
get
the
shovel
I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I
scooped
Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I
re-scooped
Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell,
interrupting
their
movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I
threw
Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified,
the
dad
was
stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month
later.
I
hope
I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on
the
road
scarred me. Payback is a whore.

Another truly sick idiot.

What is your opinion of the neighbor?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Don" wrote in message
...
The LAW says that pets and land are property and the owner has the right
to
defend his property with whatever defensive measures he deems appropriate.
If you don't like it, then do something about it, moron.

Don, what law says you can use whatever defensive measure one deems
appropriate to protect his property?

Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property? How
about using a gun with a trip wire to defend your property.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"John Smith" wrote
Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property?

Of course. Don't you?
Answer the question.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

U.S. Penal Code does not allow the use of deadly force in the protection of
your property. Deadly force can only be used when a reasonable man feels
someone's life is in eminent danger.

The use of a trip wires to harm someone illegally entering your home will
result in the owner being charged with either with aggravated assault or
manslaughter if the person is killed.

I also agree with the penal code. While it does not matter if you agree
with the law or not, you will be found guilty. The world would be a better
place if you were behind bars.





"Don" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote
Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property?

Of course. Don't you?
Answer the question.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Don" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote
Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property?

Of course. Don't you?
Answer the question.

The key word above is "believe". You may interpret the law to mean that you
may kill a person to defend your property, but in fact, that's false. You
may kill someone inside your home, but not if they're outside bashing in
your garbage can with a hammer.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:36:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


A life is a life, regardless of whether it's useful to you or not. If you
believe it's cruel to kill a dog, then you believe it's cruel to kill ANY
animal unless it threatens your life. You should not be killing bugs
because
they annoy you or cows because you love steak.

Then the obvious corollary to that logic then is if you can justify
killing bugs, then you should be ok with killing people, since they
are, after all just "Another life".

So how many people have you killed?

I choose not to kill people because for the most part, they can be dealt
with in other ways, usually via reasoning, intimidation, fear, or a
judiciously timed offer of a cold beer.

But you choose to kill selected animals. Even after your attempt at an
"all or nothing" logical approach to killing living things.

Do you believe that you have the right to kill a dog that strays on
your property, despite what the law may say to the contrary?

Honestly, Dave, even if the law didn't explicitly allow it, and a
specific
set of conditions*** were met, I'd do it anyway.

In other words, the law doesn't allow it. You're just a vigilante.

We are not going to settle the "is it legal" question. Drop it. Suffice it
to say that that with rare exceptions, the church committee approach to
getting things done is a lame way of doing things. Of course, for someone
who delegates so much responsibility to a deity, a committee is a natural
thing.



I'm part of society. I do NOT place value on a pet that violates private
property. I think you'd be surprised at how many people feel the same way.
In NY, it's illegal for a hunter to use dogs to "run" deer. Some still do
it, though. Once those dogs are trained to do that, they do it even when the
owner's not with them. Guess what DEC game wardens sometimes do with those
dogs. BLAM....and walk away. Now those dogs are a feast for raccoons and a
bunch of other happy scavengers.


So, taking these last two comments of yours in perspective, you claim,
on one hand, to be a member of society. Part of the responsibility of
being a member of society is consensus building, and harmony in
action. But you've made it abundantly clear that when it comes to
certain matters, you are more than willing to fly in the face of
society and play by your own rules, when it suits you.

In other words, you're a hypocrite




You really need to live a wider life, Dave. You spend too much time with TV.

I rarely watch TV. Why would you think that I do? I find reality (REAL
reality) much more interesting......

Dave

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:04:57 -0400, Charles
wrote:



Don wrote:

Drama? You call that drama? Puss.
I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and
when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the
dead carcass.

I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility
of another, and then abuses it.
An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that
they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got
along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging
across the top of my Plotter in the sun.

One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on
the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to
bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel
I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped
Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped
Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their
movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw
Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was
stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope
I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road
scarred me. Payback is a whore.

Another truly sick idiot.


The sad part is he thinks that HE'S the one who has somehow been
wronged in this situation.

Dave

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:36:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


A life is a life, regardless of whether it's useful to you or not. If
you
believe it's cruel to kill a dog, then you believe it's cruel to kill
ANY
animal unless it threatens your life. You should not be killing bugs
because
they annoy you or cows because you love steak.

Then the obvious corollary to that logic then is if you can justify
killing bugs, then you should be ok with killing people, since they
are, after all just "Another life".

So how many people have you killed?

I choose not to kill people because for the most part, they can be dealt
with in other ways, usually via reasoning, intimidation, fear, or a
judiciously timed offer of a cold beer.

But you choose to kill selected animals. Even after your attempt at an
"all or nothing" logical approach to killing living things.

Do you believe that you have the right to kill a dog that strays on
your property, despite what the law may say to the contrary?

Honestly, Dave, even if the law didn't explicitly allow it, and a
specific
set of conditions*** were met, I'd do it anyway.

In other words, the law doesn't allow it. You're just a vigilante.

We are not going to settle the "is it legal" question. Drop it. Suffice
it
to say that that with rare exceptions, the church committee approach to
getting things done is a lame way of doing things. Of course, for someone
who delegates so much responsibility to a deity, a committee is a natural
thing.



I'm part of society. I do NOT place value on a pet that violates private
property. I think you'd be surprised at how many people feel the same
way.
In NY, it's illegal for a hunter to use dogs to "run" deer. Some still do
it, though. Once those dogs are trained to do that, they do it even when
the
owner's not with them. Guess what DEC game wardens sometimes do with
those
dogs. BLAM....and walk away. Now those dogs are a feast for raccoons and
a
bunch of other happy scavengers.


So, taking these last two comments of yours in perspective, you claim,
on one hand, to be a member of society. Part of the responsibility of
being a member of society is consensus building, and harmony in
action. But you've made it abundantly clear that when it comes to
certain matters, you are more than willing to fly in the face of
society and play by your own rules, when it suits you.

In other words, you're a hypocrite

No, Dave. I don't live by a rigid set of rules. I'm flexible. Just like DEC
game wardens.


You really need to live a wider life, Dave. You spend too much time with
TV.

I rarely watch TV. Why would you think that I do? I find reality (REAL
reality) much more interesting......

You watch courtroom dramas on television. That's already too much.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:39:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:00:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:58:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Frankly, I'm not sure, but that wasn't the point.


Then what is?

Dave

A previous message mentioned a vanishing cat. That seemed OK with you.
So,
what difference does it make HOW a pet vanishes, whether it's whisked
away
by animal control to place where it will likely be euthanized eventually,
or
if it's flattened by a car? Gone is gone.


The difference is intent, and whether or not the action was sanctioned
by the law.


Dave

That would not change how the family felt about losing the pet. Gone is
gone.



Ok, you like using hypothetical examples, so here's one. Would you
feel differently knowing that a loved one was killed in a car
accident, or by some gang banger looking to score some dope?

Dave

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:15:19 -0400, "Don"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:06:43 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Some years ago, a neighbor who had two dogs, a sheltie and a cocker
spaniel, lost the sheltie to another neighbor's German shepherd. The
two
little dogs were in their own yard, kept there by training and by an
"invisible" fence...one of those electronic fences.

About a month later, the shepherd came back for another visit, and
started going after the cocker spaniel. The spaniel owner came out and
bashed in the skull of the shepherd with a shovel, and then dragged the
carcass out to the middle of the road.

All's well that ends well.

I would've dragged the shepherd to the owner's home with the hope that
his
children were there to see it. But that's me. Sometimes I like more drama
than other people.


You're just a bully.

You're an admitted coward. Deal with it.

Coward? For adhering to the principles of morality and abiding by the
statutes of law?

If you think killing an otherwise harmless animal who defecates on
your yard make you brave, you are in serious need of some real world
experiences.

I may not kill a animal who dumps on my yard, but try coming inside my
house and harming my family and we'll see who the real coward is.....


Dave