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Gary Warner April 15th 04 08:29 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back. I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say, "Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?




Doug Kanter April 15th 04 08:42 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


BLAM!



Netsock April 15th 04 08:54 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
You're right...it really depends on the nature of the owner, and what the
intent is of the person boarding.

In Lake Cumberland, there are literal pirates. They paddle their power boats
up to unsuspecting house-boaters at night, and do a type of home invasion,
stealing everything from clothing, to electronics, and even furnishings.
They typically disable the boat before their departure.

I know that's somewhat extreme, but I do know house boaters there, that have
armed themselves, and are more than willing to shot first, and ask questions
later.

But back on track, generally I would NEVER board someone else's boat without
permission, but I would go out of my way in an emergency. For example, I'm
sitting in the marina, and a boat pull into the next slip...ties off, and
the folks go ashore. After they are out of sight, I notice their boat
filling water. You bet I'm jumping onboard to man the pumps, and try to stop
the leakage.

But outside of a situation like that, I say stay off.
--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/



John H April 15th 04 09:17 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:29:20 -0400, "Gary Warner" wrote:


Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back. I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say, "Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


I would have turned down the radio and told the guy I did it to keep him out of
trouble with other boaters.

I probably wouldn't have sat on someone's rail. I'd be afraid mine would bend if
someone sat on it (although it probably wouldn't).

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Gary Warner April 15th 04 09:43 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"John H" wrote in message
...


On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down

on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the

boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened

to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we

really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.


Not that's it's any more right, but I should be more accurate - it wasn't a
railing. It
was the top-deck - about 8" wide - as it runs down the side of the boat. Is
this
the gunnels? Anyway, really no chance of our sitting there doing anything
to his
boat. But also no reason at all we should be sitting or leaning on his boat.




Bob D. April 15th 04 09:46 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Quick question along these lines, when is it okay to fire your flare gun
into somone elses bilge, or at least urinate upon their deck?

Two years ago, I was at Put-in-Bay sleeping one off at my favorite
facility, when at 7:30am one Sunday this "gentleman" started his go fast
boat which had twin unmuffled engines.

I was along the wall, the marina was packed, so this guy was perpendicular
to me along the pier squeezed between me and the boat in front of him.
His exhaust was about one foot away from the starboard side of my boat
hull.

Needless to say when he started the engine, I sprang up and almost crapped
my pants. Now I'll admit I am prejudiced against loud go fast boats, as
I don't personally see the use in the excess noise (same opinion of loud
harleys), but I've never begrudged someone over it. If its loud and
moving into my quiet zone, it will eventually move out of earshot and it's
no longer a problem. And even though it's 7:30am, he still has to start
his boat to leave, right?

Unfortunately this ****head didn't have a clue about courtesy and decided
he needed to start his engines long before unsecuring his spring lines, or
taking in his power line, water hose, or even his morning reign on the
porcelin throne. I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond



In article , "Gary Warner"
wrote:

Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back. I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say, "Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


Terry Spragg April 16th 04 01:09 AM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When wouldyou board someone else's boat??
 
Bob D. wrote:

Quick question along these lines, when is it okay to fire your flare gun
into somone elses bilge, or at least urinate upon their deck?

Two years ago, I was at Put-in-Bay sleeping one off at my favorite
facility, when at 7:30am one Sunday this "gentleman" started his go fast
boat which had twin unmuffled engines.

I was along the wall, the marina was packed, so this guy was perpendicular
to me along the pier squeezed between me and the boat in front of him.
His exhaust was about one foot away from the starboard side of my boat
hull.

Needless to say when he started the engine, I sprang up and almost crapped
my pants. Now I'll admit I am prejudiced against loud go fast boats, as
I don't personally see the use in the excess noise (same opinion of loud
harleys), but I've never begrudged someone over it. If its loud and
moving into my quiet zone, it will eventually move out of earshot and it's
no longer a problem. And even though it's 7:30am, he still has to start
his boat to leave, right?

Unfortunately this ****head didn't have a clue about courtesy and decided
he needed to start his engines long before unsecuring his spring lines, or
taking in his power line, water hose, or even his morning reign on the
porcelin throne. I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond



I would consider writing a gentle, threatening note signed "an
x-friend" warning him that his "lack of consideration" for other
persons' quiet enjoyment of their property could become reciprocal,
and surreptitiously gluing it to his windscreen with soluable glue
and a long handled applicator some lonely 4 AM. Don't go aboard. I
might also leave a rotton fish or bag of dog **** or a rotton egg or
six on his deck, not broken, just a warning gift. Use rubber gloves
and cut out words from some magazine or newspaper, and burn the book
with the holes in it. Don't cause any damage to his boat.

You could get several niegbours to sue him in small claims court
over it, a week or so apart. Expect to lose, but you might get lucky.

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono at 6 AM a couple of times, he'll enjoy that. Make
sure your niegbours all laugh and applaud and toast to him with
grapefruit and liqueurs as soon as he comes on deck to complain.
They could all hold up score cards, like 2.3, 4.1, 6.8, etc. You
could make it into a really nice breakfast party. Tape it all and
send it to funniest videos, he'll look good on TV, you'll get some
money.

No point in politely advising him of your fellow boaters' feelings
in the presence of a witness or two, the clod would just go overly
defensive, right? It would be really nice if the ignorant asshole
would idle out of the slip under trolling motor power and start his
sonic warp drive up out side the breakwater if leaving early, but he
would never agree until he had suffered as you did.

You could clean a few guns where he could see you doing it, while
muttering insanely about sonic vandals and drinking heavily from a
whiskey bottle full of tea beside a bag of sugar. Tip a little sugar
into the bottle from time to time. Don't speak to him, just yell at
your "crew" below decks about inconsiderate assholes, while ignoring
him.

Print this out (minus my name, please), or something similar and
tell him someone asked you to give it to him, and that your
niegbours all voted it was the best thing to do, because you all did
not really want to upset him unneccessarily. Maybe they will all
sign it.

Or, just forgive him once or twice and pray for him.

Judge Judy would be on your side, so long as you did not instigate
violence or real damage. She hates noisy, inconsiderate people, too.

There is a site somewhere concerning really nasty dirty tricks, some
of which are essentially harmless, I don't remember the URL.

Terry K


Gould 0738 April 16th 04 01:49 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Wouldn't board somebody else's boat without permission unless it was a serious
emergency.

Smoke pouring out a cabin window, (smoke that doesn't have a relaxed and
friendly smell, of course)? I'm going aboard. Line chafed almost through and
boat in danger of getting loose? Same thing.

Loud stereo with nobody aboard? Nope.
Just grumble in an extremely animated manner when the owner comes back around.

People are unpredictible about a lot of things. You have to be sure you're
willing to put up with the grief the owner will give you. Will the guilty
conscience be worse than the tongue lashing?

Not exactly the same thing, but same moral question. Years ago, when I was an
automobile salesman, we had a woman come into the showroom with a little kid
probably 3-4 years old. The woman parked her son in the back of a pickup truck
on the showroom floor while she went into a closing booth to dicker price. I
guess she thought the kid wold just sit in the truck, and not get restless.

The kid climbed up on the front wall of the pickup bed, stood there, and within
the blink of an eye climbed up onto the roof of the pickup. He was on his hands
and knees on the roof of the truck, and began sliding toward the edge. It would
have been
almost a seven foot drop onto a concrete floor, possibly head first.

I scurried across the showroom and grabbed the kid, just as he was sliding off
the roof and hollering "help!" in a very frightened voice. At that point, his
mother looked up to see why her kid was hollering for help, and there I was,
holding him.

I though she was going to kill me. "What the hell are you doing, touching my
kid! You must be some kind of pervert! I think I'll call the police! You
asshole!.......etc,etc"

When I could get a word in edgewise, I said, "Lady, I grabbed your kid because
he was on the roof of the truck and was about to slide off onto the floor!"

Never forget this world class mother's response: "That's pure bull****. I
looked at the door to check on him just a minute or so ago. He was not on the
roof yet, he was on his way *up* to the roof!"

Never can tell when the guy or gal who owns the boat next door might be as
crazy as that little kid's mom. :-)








Gould 0738 April 16th 04 01:50 AM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Quick question along these lines, when is it okay to fire your flare gun
into somone elses bilge, or at least urinate upon their deck?


When you're feeling suicidal and your life insurance is paid up?


Gary Warner April 16th 04 01:58 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...



Good story.



jps April 16th 04 02:07 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , gould0738
@aol.com says...

....snip

I though she was going to kill me. "What the hell are you doing, touching my
kid! You must be some kind of pervert! I think I'll call the police! You
asshole!.......etc,etc"


Man, between this experience and the story you related about the chance
encounter at the gas station, I'd be afraid to leave the house!!!

jps

Jim and Becky April 16th 04 02:29 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Not much different than seeing the interior light on in the car parked next
to you. Yes I always pull the door handle. Usually its locked and I'm off
the hook...


"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back. I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to

turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say,

"Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down

on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the

boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened

to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we

really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?






Gould 0738 April 16th 04 04:09 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Man, between this experience and the story you related about the chance
encounter at the gas station, I'd be afraid to leave the house!!!

jps


It's truly a gift-

(The ability to get strange women so "excited")

John H April 16th 04 04:18 AM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:09:44 GMT, Terry Spragg
wrote:

Bob D. wrote:

Quick question along these lines, when is it okay to fire your flare gun
into somone elses bilge, or at least urinate upon their deck?

Two years ago, I was at Put-in-Bay sleeping one off at my favorite
facility, when at 7:30am one Sunday this "gentleman" started his go fast
boat which had twin unmuffled engines.

I was along the wall, the marina was packed, so this guy was perpendicular
to me along the pier squeezed between me and the boat in front of him.
His exhaust was about one foot away from the starboard side of my boat
hull.

Needless to say when he started the engine, I sprang up and almost crapped
my pants. Now I'll admit I am prejudiced against loud go fast boats, as
I don't personally see the use in the excess noise (same opinion of loud
harleys), but I've never begrudged someone over it. If its loud and
moving into my quiet zone, it will eventually move out of earshot and it's
no longer a problem. And even though it's 7:30am, he still has to start
his boat to leave, right?

Unfortunately this ****head didn't have a clue about courtesy and decided
he needed to start his engines long before unsecuring his spring lines, or
taking in his power line, water hose, or even his morning reign on the
porcelin throne. I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond



I would consider writing a gentle, threatening note signed "an
x-friend" warning him that his "lack of consideration" for other
persons' quiet enjoyment of their property could become reciprocal,
and surreptitiously gluing it to his windscreen with soluable glue
and a long handled applicator some lonely 4 AM. Don't go aboard. I
might also leave a rotton fish or bag of dog **** or a rotton egg or
six on his deck, not broken, just a warning gift. Use rubber gloves
and cut out words from some magazine or newspaper, and burn the book
with the holes in it. Don't cause any damage to his boat.

You could get several niegbours to sue him in small claims court
over it, a week or so apart. Expect to lose, but you might get lucky.

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono at 6 AM a couple of times, he'll enjoy that. Make
sure your niegbours all laugh and applaud and toast to him with
grapefruit and liqueurs as soon as he comes on deck to complain.
They could all hold up score cards, like 2.3, 4.1, 6.8, etc. You
could make it into a really nice breakfast party. Tape it all and
send it to funniest videos, he'll look good on TV, you'll get some
money.

No point in politely advising him of your fellow boaters' feelings
in the presence of a witness or two, the clod would just go overly
defensive, right? It would be really nice if the ignorant asshole
would idle out of the slip under trolling motor power and start his
sonic warp drive up out side the breakwater if leaving early, but he
would never agree until he had suffered as you did.

You could clean a few guns where he could see you doing it, while
muttering insanely about sonic vandals and drinking heavily from a
whiskey bottle full of tea beside a bag of sugar. Tip a little sugar
into the bottle from time to time. Don't speak to him, just yell at
your "crew" below decks about inconsiderate assholes, while ignoring
him.

Print this out (minus my name, please), or something similar and
tell him someone asked you to give it to him, and that your
niegbours all voted it was the best thing to do, because you all did
not really want to upset him unneccessarily. Maybe they will all
sign it.

Or, just forgive him once or twice and pray for him.

Judge Judy would be on your side, so long as you did not instigate
violence or real damage. She hates noisy, inconsiderate people, too.

There is a site somewhere concerning really nasty dirty tricks, some
of which are essentially harmless, I don't remember the URL.

Terry K


Nicely said!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Gary Warner April 16th 04 04:54 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Jim and Becky" wrote in message
...
Not much different than seeing the interior light on in the car parked

next
to you. Yes I always pull the door handle. Usually its locked and I'm off
the hook...



Well not quite the same. My conundrum was that this loud stereo was
bothering me
and it would have been sooooo easy to shut it off without doing any damage.



Coff April 16th 04 05:53 AM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ...
Just stuff to talk about:
So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


I went out yesterday afternoon for a few hours after I left the
office. I returned, buttoned up the boat, chatted with the guy in the
next slip for a minute, and left.

That night, my wife, son, and I walk into the yacht club restaurant
and the guy whom I spoke with in the next slip earlier that day
immediatley got up from his table and crossed the room to inform me he
boarded my boat after I left. Seems I absent-mindely left the VHF
radio on up on the bridge. For reasons unknown, the squelch went nuts
and was crackling away up there under all that Sunbrella after I was
long gone. He shut the radio off.

I appreciated his letting me know, and he was very concerned about it.
I must admit I was a little confused at first, as I am pretty easy
going, and would assume (and appreciate) someone taking the time and
effort to unsnap the covers, climb the ladder, and kill the radio due
to my negligence. I felt I was the one to appologize. Thinking about
it now, if I had been in his place, I don't know if I even would have
thought to mention my boarding his boat to him. It just seems
logical.

I respect and admire (most of) my dock neighbors and trust thier
intentions. Perhpas less so if we had transient boaters in the
marina.

Coff

Damn, life is good!

basskisser April 16th 04 12:03 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ...
Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back. I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say, "Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got back?

basskisser April 16th 04 12:05 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:29:20 -0400, "Gary Warner" wrote:


Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back. I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say, "Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


I would have turned down the radio and told the guy I did it to keep him out of
trouble with other boaters.


I'd sure hate to live next to someone as anal as you. Apparently it
was daytime, so why not just chill out a little?

trainfan1 April 16th 04 12:28 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Gary Warner wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...


On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat down


on

the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the


boat

nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy happened


to

come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we


really

should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of thing.



Not that's it's any more right, but I should be more accurate - it wasn't a
railing. It
was the top-deck - about 8" wide - as it runs down the side of the boat. Is
this
the gunnels? Anyway, really no chance of our sitting there doing anything
to his
boat. But also no reason at all we should be sitting or leaning on his boat.




Gunwhales.

Rob

Doug Kanter April 16th 04 02:55 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article , gould0738
@aol.com says...

...snip

I though she was going to kill me. "What the hell are you doing,

touching my
kid! You must be some kind of pervert! I think I'll call the police! You
asshole!.......etc,etc"


Man, between this experience and the story you related about the chance
encounter at the gas station, I'd be afraid to leave the house!!!

jps


"It's been a rough day. I got up this morning, put on a shirt and a button
fell off. I picked up my briefcase and the handle came off. I'm afraid to go
to the bathroom!" -Rodney Dangerfield



Doug Kanter April 16th 04 02:59 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
John H wrote in message

. ..
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:29:20 -0400, "Gary Warner"

wrote:


Just stuff to talk about:

Was reminded this morning of something that happened a few years back.

I
was working on my boat in my slip. Another "non-resident" boat arrived

and
docked next to me. They got off the boat and went up into the buy
restaurant. After a little while their stereo starts blaring. I later
figured out that it was a tape deck and must be the tape was at the end

of
one side in a silent spot as they docked and got off the boat.

I didn't want to get onto their boat. I know I wouldn't want strangers
getting onto my boat. On the other hand it was a very simple thing to

turn
off the radio and get off the boat. But if they happend to be the

people
sitting looking over the marina I could see someone come running down
yelling.

Yes, I could also go to the management. But this is a small place and
finding someone is sometimes a problem. And then they'd probably say,

"Hey,
don't bother me. Just get on his boat and shut it off."

I decided not to get on the boat. And when the guy came down I just

asked
him to be more careful. He happened to be a very friendly type and

said,
"Oh. You should have just shut it off."

On the other hand - same marina, different day - two of us who each

have
boats there were talking. As the conversation went on and on we sat

down on
the railing of another "regular" in the yard. We were in no way on the

boat
nor was there almost any chance of us hurting anything. The guy

happened to
come by at that point and went OFF really HARD about it. I agree we

really
should't be touching his boat - but it was just a natural kind of

thing.

So - What would you think if someone was boarding your boat?


I would have turned down the radio and told the guy I did it to keep him

out of
trouble with other boaters.


I'd sure hate to live next to someone as anal as you. Apparently it
was daytime, so why not just chill out a little?


It's one thing to find music annoying when someone's listening to it. It's
another story entirely when the stereo's owner has left completely, which
mean's there's NO purpose whatsoever for the music playing. Don't you think
it's a bit arrogant to assume that the whole world wants to listen to your
music?



Gary Warner April 16th 04 03:01 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"basskisser" wrote:


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?



That's pretty much what I did: I thought about getting on his boat, decided
not
to, and went back to working on a wiring problem on my boat. The reason
it was annoying was because the volume was very lound, undoubtedly set
at a volume good for when they were out on open water with the engine
going and lots of wind. Where we were docked is under a huge concrete
bridge. The loud music and echos really weren't very pleasent. ~ I think
I do tend to be laid-back and understanding. When the guy returned I just
told him about it. He said, "Oh. You should have just shut it off." :)



Bob D. April 16th 04 03:07 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
I never knew I had so many peaceful options. Thanks guys! Any other
interesting stories of the obnoxious (I mean inconsiderate, I'm obnoxious)
boaters?

Bob

Doug Kanter April 16th 04 03:13 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Bob D." wrote in message
...

I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond


I'd write down the name & reg numbers of boats like that, for two reasons.
First, report him to the marina's manager. Second, if you ever run across
that same boat in an emergency, you can ignore its owner's calls for help,
and do whatever you can to make his boat sink, burn or crash upon the rocks
more quickly. There's an entire class of people who simply don't deserve to
continue their existence.



Doug Kanter April 16th 04 03:16 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
.cable.rogers.com...

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono....


Yoko?!? Jeez.....it's making my teeth hurt just thinking about that! Perfect
idea.


You could clean a few guns where he could see you doing it, while
muttering insanely about sonic vandals and drinking heavily from a
whiskey bottle full of tea beside a bag of sugar. Tip a little sugar
into the bottle from time to time. Don't speak to him, just yell at
your "crew" below decks about inconsiderate assholes, while ignoring
him.


This is an excellent idea, the whiskey/gun combo. Even better if you wear a
hat which hides your eyes, and steadfastly refuse to make eye contact with
him.


Judge Judy would be on your side, so long as you did not instigate
violence or real damage. She hates noisy, inconsiderate people, too.


So, Judy would be OK with using a crossbow, then.



Doug Kanter April 16th 04 03:17 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Jim and Becky" wrote in message
...
Not much different than seeing the interior light on in the car parked

next
to you. Yes I always pull the door handle. Usually its locked and I'm

off
the hook...



Well not quite the same. My conundrum was that this loud stereo was
bothering me
and it would have been sooooo easy to shut it off without doing any

damage.



How about pulling the plug for his AC power? Maybe it was a 12v radio, but
maybe not.



Doug Kanter April 16th 04 03:21 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.



Gary Warner April 16th 04 03:27 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
.cable.rogers.com...

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono....


Yoko?!? Jeez.....it's making my teeth hurt just thinking about that!

Perfect
idea.


A while after the 9/11 attacks Ken Kesey wrote an open letter to the
terrorists.
His theme was that if they think that they are crazier than Americans by
being suicide bombers they are, well, crazy. He then gave a long list of
examples
of how Americans are crazy. One of the best went something like...

You think you're crazy? We shot John Lennon 6 times and
didn't even aim for Yoko Ono.




Doug Kanter April 16th 04 03:50 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
.cable.rogers.com...

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono....


Yoko?!? Jeez.....it's making my teeth hurt just thinking about that!

Perfect
idea.


A while after the 9/11 attacks Ken Kesey wrote an open letter to the
terrorists.
His theme was that if they think that they are crazier than Americans by
being suicide bombers they are, well, crazy. He then gave a long list of
examples
of how Americans are crazy. One of the best went something like...

You think you're crazy? We shot John Lennon 6 times and
didn't even aim for Yoko Ono.


ROFL!



Bob D. April 16th 04 04:20 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.

Obviously in the case of guys stereo it wasn't intentional, so making
things difficult on them isn't necessarily the right tact. Assuming it
was a mistake, I would have contacted the marina manager stating my
intentions. If or when the owner showed up I would *hope* as boaters they
would share a similar mindsets that boaters as a group are to be trusted
(at least where I come from), be willing to listen to an explanation why I
boarded, and understand that explanation, knowing that they did something
to cause the situation. If not they can verify my story with the marina.

If they persists in staying in a ****ing contest, then I'll do what needs
to be done to instill better consideration and reasoning. If you have to
be "cruel to be kind", perhaps I'll resort to "lead pipe kindness" :^)

In Doug's case, with the woman at the car dealership it's a tough call.
Obviously the woman was not "well bred" as she is portrayed as devoid of
common sense, maternal instincts, or reasoning. Rather attempt to see
Doug's point and say Thank You, she chose to stay ****y. What to do next
time? Choose to let Darwin's theory take it course, and the kid suffer
because his parent is a ****head? Or do the right thing, save the kid, be
ridiculed by the parent, while the kid grows up to be another
inconsiderate ****head. If we could go back in time would we find that
someone had saved Adolph Hitler from falling off a truck roof, or Saddam
Hussein from the back of a camel. Hmmmmm...... tough call!

Thankfully, it isn't too often, but I've seen some ****ty things that our
fellow boaters do. Besides the rude behavior I've cited before, there was
one time when someone pulled int the Put-in-Bay Yacht Club acting like
their **** didn't stink. I think they were a group of college kids
borrowing dad's boat and using his membership for a dock reservation. Not
only were they rude and uncourteous, but they had the nerve to unplug
another boaters shore power, because they needed to plug into two outlets
so they could run their boats AC electrical as well as their air
conditioner. Thankfully enough of the people were outraged that the
marina manager for the yacht club told them politely that their
reservation for later in the year would not be honored. I only hope that
later reservation was for dad, and that he was able to drive the point
home about being considerate too other boaters (assuming he has any
consideration himself).

Bob Dimond

Doug Kanter April 16th 04 06:16 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Bob D." wrote in message
...

Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people

got
back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of

****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in

the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.



Actually, I'm completely serious. Not trying to be funny at all. Look at it
this way: I began teaching my son to be a good neighbor when he was old
enough to carry on a discussion. Now he's 14 and he realizes it takes
absolutely zero effort to live harmoniously (except for the farting contests
he and his pals conduct in my living room). But, when you run across a
scumbag who pretends his **** don't stink, you can be sure his parents
didn't say one word to him about living among other people. Result: You have
to "help" the scumbag overcome 18+ years of neglect in the wink of an eye.
This is not to say that I won't give someone one opportunity to learn The
Good Way, but one is my limit.



John H April 16th 04 06:23 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:20:21 -0400, (Bob D.) wrote:

In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.

Obviously in the case of guys stereo it wasn't intentional, so making
things difficult on them isn't necessarily the right tact. Assuming it
was a mistake, I would have contacted the marina manager stating my
intentions. If or when the owner showed up I would *hope* as boaters they
would share a similar mindsets that boaters as a group are to be trusted
(at least where I come from), be willing to listen to an explanation why I
boarded, and understand that explanation, knowing that they did something
to cause the situation. If not they can verify my story with the marina.

If they persists in staying in a ****ing contest, then I'll do what needs
to be done to instill better consideration and reasoning. If you have to
be "cruel to be kind", perhaps I'll resort to "lead pipe kindness" :^)

In Doug's case, with the woman at the car dealership it's a tough call.
Obviously the woman was not "well bred" as she is portrayed as devoid of
common sense, maternal instincts, or reasoning. Rather attempt to see
Doug's point and say Thank You, she chose to stay ****y. What to do next
time? Choose to let Darwin's theory take it course, and the kid suffer
because his parent is a ****head? Or do the right thing, save the kid, be
ridiculed by the parent, while the kid grows up to be another
inconsiderate ****head. If we could go back in time would we find that
someone had saved Adolph Hitler from falling off a truck roof, or Saddam
Hussein from the back of a camel. Hmmmmm...... tough call!

Thankfully, it isn't too often, but I've seen some ****ty things that our
fellow boaters do. Besides the rude behavior I've cited before, there was
one time when someone pulled int the Put-in-Bay Yacht Club acting like
their **** didn't stink. I think they were a group of college kids
borrowing dad's boat and using his membership for a dock reservation. Not
only were they rude and uncourteous, but they had the nerve to unplug
another boaters shore power, because they needed to plug into two outlets
so they could run their boats AC electrical as well as their air
conditioner. Thankfully enough of the people were outraged that the
marina manager for the yacht club told them politely that their
reservation for later in the year would not be honored. I only hope that
later reservation was for dad, and that he was able to drive the point
home about being considerate too other boaters (assuming he has any
consideration himself).

Bob Dimond


Contacting the marina manager is the best idea yet. I would expect mine to
either come turn the radio down immediately or have someone do it.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Paul Schilter April 16th 04 10:32 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
John H,
I agree with your comment, but wouldn't it have been a lot more
expedient to top post it? A two word comment in my opinion is a very good
reason to top post.
Paul

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:09:44 GMT, Terry Spragg


wrote:

Bob D. wrote:

Quick question along these lines, when is it okay to fire your flare

gun
into somone elses bilge, or at least urinate upon their deck?

Two years ago, I was at Put-in-Bay sleeping one off at my favorite
facility, when at 7:30am one Sunday this "gentleman" started his go

fast
boat which had twin unmuffled engines.

I was along the wall, the marina was packed, so this guy was

perpendicular
to me along the pier squeezed between me and the boat in front of him.
His exhaust was about one foot away from the starboard side of my boat
hull.

Needless to say when he started the engine, I sprang up and almost

crapped
my pants. Now I'll admit I am prejudiced against loud go fast boats,

as
I don't personally see the use in the excess noise (same opinion of

loud
harleys), but I've never begrudged someone over it. If its loud and
moving into my quiet zone, it will eventually move out of earshot and

it's
no longer a problem. And even though it's 7:30am, he still has to

start
his boat to leave, right?

Unfortunately this ****head didn't have a clue about courtesy and

decided
he needed to start his engines long before unsecuring his spring lines,

or
taking in his power line, water hose, or even his morning reign on the
porcelin throne. I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good

and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming

asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond



I would consider writing a gentle, threatening note signed "an
x-friend" warning him that his "lack of consideration" for other
persons' quiet enjoyment of their property could become reciprocal,
and surreptitiously gluing it to his windscreen with soluable glue
and a long handled applicator some lonely 4 AM. Don't go aboard. I
might also leave a rotton fish or bag of dog **** or a rotton egg or
six on his deck, not broken, just a warning gift. Use rubber gloves
and cut out words from some magazine or newspaper, and burn the book
with the holes in it. Don't cause any damage to his boat.

You could get several niegbours to sue him in small claims court
over it, a week or so apart. Expect to lose, but you might get lucky.

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono at 6 AM a couple of times, he'll enjoy that. Make
sure your niegbours all laugh and applaud and toast to him with
grapefruit and liqueurs as soon as he comes on deck to complain.
They could all hold up score cards, like 2.3, 4.1, 6.8, etc. You
could make it into a really nice breakfast party. Tape it all and
send it to funniest videos, he'll look good on TV, you'll get some
money.

No point in politely advising him of your fellow boaters' feelings
in the presence of a witness or two, the clod would just go overly
defensive, right? It would be really nice if the ignorant asshole
would idle out of the slip under trolling motor power and start his
sonic warp drive up out side the breakwater if leaving early, but he
would never agree until he had suffered as you did.

You could clean a few guns where he could see you doing it, while
muttering insanely about sonic vandals and drinking heavily from a
whiskey bottle full of tea beside a bag of sugar. Tip a little sugar
into the bottle from time to time. Don't speak to him, just yell at
your "crew" below decks about inconsiderate assholes, while ignoring
him.

Print this out (minus my name, please), or something similar and
tell him someone asked you to give it to him, and that your
niegbours all voted it was the best thing to do, because you all did
not really want to upset him unneccessarily. Maybe they will all
sign it.

Or, just forgive him once or twice and pray for him.

Judge Judy would be on your side, so long as you did not instigate
violence or real damage. She hates noisy, inconsiderate people, too.

There is a site somewhere concerning really nasty dirty tricks, some
of which are essentially harmless, I don't remember the URL.

Terry K


Nicely said!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




Paul Schilter April 16th 04 10:45 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Gene,
A proponent of tough love? Ya, sometimes Darwin should have his chance.
:-)
Paul

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
snipped
Typical southern response to this is quite effective and not intrusive
to a-hole parents..... let kid crash onto concrete floor and say,
"Damn, bet that hurt...... bet you won't try *that* again...
heh-heh...."


Maybe "Mom" will learn something, too..... junior is sure to....


--



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Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:16 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , (Bob D.) wrote:


By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond


ever see the hand grenade that Tony Soprano keeps in a hidden
bookshelf thingie?


Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:28 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Bob D." wrote in message
...

I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond


I'd write down the name & reg numbers of boats like that, for two reasons.
First, report him to the marina's manager. Second, if you ever run across
that same boat in an emergency, you can ignore its owner's calls for help,
and do whatever you can to make his boat sink, burn or crash upon the rocks
more quickly. There's an entire class of people who simply don't deserve to
continue their existence.


You would ignore somebody in an emergency over petty-ass bull**** and help
their boat sink, burn or crash? Really?

And yet you tried to prove that I am ignorant in some earlier debates with
you?

Hoo boy. You are a real piece of work!

Thank gawd not all folks are like you.

I certainly can understand being a little miffed at the circumstances
involving the docking and resulting loud noise however you are not God and you
don't get to pick and choose who doesn't "deserve to continue their
existance". Only a real heartless lout would ignore somebody in distress if
they could lend assistance. Not only that it is the RULE of the Sea to lend
assistance.

Hopefully you don't really behave this way and are having a bad day and
blowing off some steam? If not then you don't deserve to be called a
boater or a seaman.







Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:31 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


And who gets to be the judge of just what is and isn't "inconsiderate"
behavior? You?

What a piece of work you are.

Don White, folks like this are one reason for not going anywhere without a
firearm....


Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:43 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , (Bob D.) wrote:

In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny,


It didn't appear to be tongue-in-cheek or posted in jest. Hopefully he is
just kidding. Because he sure sounds disturbed.

I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.


Really? That is how you train your dogs? I have three dogs and I never
have had to resort to such roguish behavior. Don't know much about dogs
I guess? A dog isn't going to be able to fathom why you are doing such a
dirty deed.


Obviously in the case of guys stereo it wasn't intentional, so making
things difficult on them isn't necessarily the right tact. Assuming it
was a mistake, I would have contacted the marina manager stating my
intentions. If or when the owner showed up I would *hope* as boaters they
would share a similar mindsets that boaters as a group are to be trusted
(at least where I come from), be willing to listen to an explanation why I
boarded, and understand that explanation, knowing that they did something
to cause the situation. If not they can verify my story with the marina.

If they persists in staying in a ****ing contest, then I'll do what needs
to be done to instill better consideration and reasoning. If you have to
be "cruel to be kind", perhaps I'll resort to "lead pipe kindness" :^)


Another reason why over 40 states have concealed carry laws in effect.
It is getting to be very dangerous with all the Charles Bronson types
running amok out there.

One day you will run into somebody with a CCL that doesn't appreciate getting
lead-piped or any other of your acts of cruelty.




Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:45 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Bob D." wrote in message
...

Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people

got
back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of

****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in

the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.



Actually, I'm completely serious. Not trying to be funny at all. Look at it
this way: I began teaching my son to be a good neighbor when he was old
enough to carry on a discussion. Now he's 14 and he realizes it takes
absolutely zero effort to live harmoniously (except for the farting contests
he and his pals conduct in my living room). But, when you run across a
scumbag who pretends his **** don't stink, you can be sure his parents
didn't say one word to him about living among other people. Result: You have
to "help" the scumbag overcome 18+ years of neglect in the wink of an eye.
This is not to say that I won't give someone one opportunity to learn The
Good Way, but one is my limit.


So let the "scumbag's" boat sink and they can drown right Dougie?
Why not just kill em' all and let God sort em' out eh?




Henry Blackmoore April 17th 04 12:40 AM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

John H,
I agree with your comment, but wouldn't it have been a lot more
expedient to top post it? A two word comment in my opinion is a very good
reason to top post.
Paul


http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost


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