When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Don" wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
. ..
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.



Actually, I give anchored fishermen a berth so wide, they hardly know I'm
there. I've taught my son to assist other boaters who are docking, or stay
out of their ways if they don't want help. I keep unused bait nice & fresh,
because there are always kids back at the dock who seem to find it useful.
When fishing streams, I not only stay hundreds of feet from other fishermen,
I don't even say hello unless their body language indicates they're in the
mood to share info. I go over my outboard with a friggin' toothbrush after I
change oil so I don't create the oil slick that some guys think is macho.
(Same guys who don't flush the toilet in public bathrooms).

Henry has no idea what he's talking about.

Really?

Tell us again about how you would ignore a boater in distress and even
help their boat sink?

Oh forget it, you are old news...

later

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Don" wrote:



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.



Actually, I give anchored fishermen a berth so wide, they hardly know I'm
there. I've taught my son to assist other boaters who are docking, or stay
out of their ways if they don't want help. I keep unused bait nice &
fresh,
because there are always kids back at the dock who seem to find it useful.
When fishing streams, I not only stay hundreds of feet from other
fishermen,
I don't even say hello unless their body language indicates they're in the
mood to share info. I go over my outboard with a friggin' toothbrush after
I
change oil so I don't create the oil slick that some guys think is macho.
(Same guys who don't flush the toilet in public bathrooms).

Henry has no idea what he's talking about.

Do as you please.
You have to answer to no other, let alone a moron in Usenet.
Blackmoore presents his false bravado as a symbol of his cowardice and poor
character.
Blackmoore is one of the last people to help when help is needed, so he
shadows himself in his false accusations of others.

One only has to DejaNews a few posts (or read the current ones) of yours
to see who the real "moron is. LOL

You are nothing but a self-righteous and selfish little bookyak (probably a
female masquarading as "Don").

Cya Don! You are the man! We are all very impressed.

:^)

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:
Path:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...

Actually, Henry, a garden *does* fall under that definition. These laws
were
almost eliminated as farms began to vanish, but in many places, they were
kept intact because of the victory garden movement during World War II.
The
current legal argument is that flowers have no intrinsic value unless
they're raised by a commercial grower. But, food *does* have value to
anyone
who grows it. Therefore, any food garden is defined as a farm.

Sorry to burst your bubble.....

Show me where the laws in a suburban area in this country have been
interpreted to allow a homeowner to hide under the guise of growing "food
crops" while killing his neighbors dog or cats? Garden be damned.

You are twisted.

Like Charles says -"keep back--pedaling".


Call your town hall and ask. So far, it's been the case in 2 out of 3 towns
in which I've lived. While we're discussing this, answer the following:

How big does a food garden need to be in order to be considered a farm, in
your opinion?

I won't hold my breath. Thus far, you've been too much of a pussy to answer
the muffler question, because you'd have to reveal that you'd do exactly
what I would: Lean on the local law enforcement authorities until they
rained hell on the guy and made his life miserable.


Only a "pussy" would kill somebody's pet under the guise of protecting
their "farm crops" (****ty old garden) in the suburbs.

Only a "pussy" would help a distressed boater's boat to sink and ignore
their personal plight.

Only a "pussy" (and a rather ignorant one at that) would rub their
pet's nose in their own **** to try and "train" it OR support some
whacko that does so.

Pussy isn't a strong enough word for the person described above. **** is more
like it.

Have a nice day! :^)

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In article , "Don" wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
Show me where the laws in a suburban area in this country have been
interpreted to allow a homeowner to hide under the guise of growing "food
crops" while killing his neighbors dog or cats? Garden be damned.

The *law* says that if you touch my stuff, I am required to shoot your
stupid ass in the face. Get it?


Speak of bookyak...

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In article , "Don" wrote:

John, you better straighten up your act or you will be sent to the corner
for contemplation.
Where in my single sentence below did I mention dogs?

Speaking of bookyak...


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:vr%hc.5371$YP5.524839@attbi_s02...
Don,
Again, I am confused, are you saying if your neighbors dog takes a crap in
your lawn, you are required by law to shot him in the face?


"Don" wrote in message
...
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
Show me where the laws in a suburban area in this country have been
interpreted to allow a homeowner to hide under the guise of growing
"food
crops" while killing his neighbors dog or cats? Garden be damned.

The *law* says that if you touch my stuff, I am required to shoot your
stupid ass in the face. Get it?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Don" wrote:

"John Smith" wrote
I thought we were talking about the law according to the US Penal Code.
Now
if we were talking about the Penal Code the law is:

I don't give a **** about your discretionary laws.


speaking of bookyak....

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

Yer one o' them thar derned libertarians, ain't ya?

No, he's just another self-righteous **** like you....




"Don" wrote in message
. ..
No one has the right to govern others.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:_tgic.13247$_L6.1027413@attbi_s53...
Whose law do you give a s*** about?


"Don" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote
I thought we were talking about the law according to the US Penal
Code.
Now
if we were talking about the Penal Code the law is:

I don't give a **** about your discretionary laws.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Don" wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a
fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider
"normal
suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the
method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really
ought
to think before you hurl, boy.

Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop"
definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a
damaged tomato plant?

Can I come into your house and eat all your food, drink all your beer,
fondle your 13 yo daughters nubbins, issue you a matched pair of knuckle
sandwiches and take your DVD player on the way out the door?
If you choose to use MY personal property for YOUR use, YOU open yourself up
to that same behavior.
Doesn't anyone know how to *think* anymore?


We are talking about a canine dumbass.

Can YOU read?

lmao, what a fool you are.

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...

Stop being childish. You know that was a typo. What would YOU do in the
aforementioned muffler situation?

Let's just say what I wouldn't do okay? I wouldn't do anything to
escalate
the situation. And I wouldnt do anything illegal or immoral. I wouldn't
hate
my neighbor over it. I wouldn't overly dwell on it. I wouldn't still
seeth
over it months or years later in a newsgroup. I wouldn't nag them over
it.

OTOH if I saw that same neighbor broken down needing help on the side
of the road I would do it. No matter how much sleep that I lost or how
much they bothered me. I would help that person.

I spent part of my life thinking and acting like you do and then I wised
up
Dougie. Life is too short to be seeing the glass half-full all of the
time.

So, you're a patsy. I understand now.

No you are just a self-righteous dickhead. I have better things to do
than to get bent out of shape over a bunch of piddly-ass bull****.

Hey! I went boating today... in the rain... what did you do?

later...much




Spread random acts of kindness and senseless acts of beauty.

I do that constantly, but with some people, it's not worth the effort. I'd
rather be cleaning the bathroom.

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...
In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...

One reaps what they sow
in life.

That's what I've been saying for the past three days, dummy. But, you
only
like that phrase when it suits YOUR purpose. When I suggest that lousy
neighbors should expect consequences, you get all flustered. :-)


How many gas tanks have you sugared in your lifetime Dougster?



No gas tanks, Hank.

Let's see if you can follow this logic. You reap what you sow. You said this
as if it were holy truth. But, according to your messages, a horribly
inconsiderate neighbor should be quietly tolerated. Nothing should be said
or done to make that person aware of the fact that he is making his
neighbors' lives miserable. Is that correct?

If that is correct, when does that neighbor reap what he has sown?

People will get what their just reward is without me trying to play the role
of Enforcer.

One day when you grow up you may see that too.

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , (Bob D.) wrote:


In article . net,
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote:

In article ,
(Bob D.) wrote:

I don't agree with Doug's specific comments about ignoring distress calls,
or watching a boat burn, but then again, I'm not taking what he says
literally as much reading in stating two underlying points:

Why not take them literally? He means them literally and he even says so.


I did not take Doug literally because I chose not to take Doug
literally. IMHO there is OFTEN a difference in what someone says what
they intend to do out of the emotion of a heated discussion, and what
they do when faced wth the reality of the situation. If Doug said he
watched a boat sink, or refused to aid in a distress call based upon a
previous experience with the boat's owner, then yes, I would have no
choice but to take his statements literally. He didn't. Even if he did,
that was HIS choice, and even if I don't agree with that choice I have to
consider that he did not go out of his way to cause harm, and I do not
know all the details of his decision; therefore, I cannot conclude he is a
person completely without redeeming qualities as you seem to be
suggesting.

If you cannot conclude that a person who would ignore a boater's distress
and actually help to sink their boat along with some of the other sick
and disturbing statements along the lines of revenge and vigilantism and
you can't come to a few simple conclusions (like such a person not
being worthy of being called a "boater" or a "seaman") then you are
quite the simpleton.

I really think you need to lighten up, Henry. Look at the general
viewpoint not just keywords. Neither Doug or myself have aimed any
personal attack against you.

Really? Do you wear blinders or are you just a Dougie groupie and a chump to
boot? How about READING his posts?




Yet you seem to be pretty nasty, on a
personal level, in voicing your dissent.




If everyone took every single
post word for word and not the INTENT of the author

Doug made his positions very clear and even reiterated them a several times.
Again, how about reading his threads? Hello?


then the bickering
would never end. Though it's beginning to look like some of us just like
to "play mean" in our little sandbox for the sake of "playing mean"
doesn't it?

That's right, read a few selective posts and jump right in judging the
situation when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.


1. It takes so little effort and time to show consideration for other
people.
2. You can't go through life not giving a **** about the people
around you,
while carrying expectations that everyone should give a ****
about you.

later sock puppet....


When people forget or ignore these simple truisms, which IMHO are needed
for society to function, all bets are off. Forget them and antagonize
someone who is having a bad day, and bad things can happen. When bad
things do happen to the social offender, while the punishment might not
fit the crime, I have a hard time considering them to be the victim, so in
an effort to avoid these "bad things" I would suggest:

3. Never assume somone's inconsideration towards you is a deliberate
act.

I personally will act with goodwill and assume the person committing their
offense to me is goodhearted but oblivious as to their actions. As such,
I will ignore it if it is the first time the offense occurred with that
party, if the action could be deemed as non-deliberate, AND the action
doesn't persist for a great deal of time. If those criteria are not met,
I will tactfully talk with them in hopes of reaching a solution.
Sometimes the solution consists only of hearing a reasonable explanation
as to why the offending behavior is occuring.

Should these steps fail, I'm moving further into Doug's camp.

Doug is a mentally unstable vigilante type. You are of that persuasion too?


Doug may be a "mentally unstable vigilante type" I don't presume to know
either way. Once again I don't agree with Doug "word for word" but I do
share Doug's opinions of "personal responsibility" and "reaping what you
sow". Add to this the fact that I always give people the benefit of the
doubt, believing that their hurtful actions were unintentional, until I
have proof otherwise. I'd say in a nutshell portrays me a tolerant and
reasonable person, who seeks to resolve differences through
communication. If those difference cannot be discussed reasonably then I
will stick up for what I believe in and take a harder line, preferably
within the law, but if the behavior is bad enough (e.g raping my mother,
girlfriend, daughter), I'd have to admit I'm not evolved enough to claim I
would never stray outside the law.

As for calling "mental stability" to question, you've never interacted
with me, met me in person, you've probably read only a handful of my post,
and what you've read you blatantly out of context in a very self-serving
manner. And while most people can tell I need to take a typing class or
use a spell-checker, you seem to suggest that you can actually infer my
mental health from my agreements on points of somone you take issue with?
With undergrad majors in psychology and sociology, take what I say
serioulsly when I say you have rare gift indeed....


Oh I won't
ignore that distress call or refuse to help save their boat, but when I
help them, I'll be reminding them who I was and how they offended me,

So somebody is drowning and their boat sinking and you will be bringing
up petty ass bull**** and rubbing it in while you are helping to rescue
them?
Maybe you are in Doug's "camp" after all?


Hmmmm.... who said "petty ass bull****?", Henry. Who said "sinking",
Henry? Who says that I will lecture them the moment I rescue them from
drowning? YOU DID, NOT ME! Please, don't make up a situation in such
absolute terms than use it to put words in my mouth, it does a disservice
to both of us.

To clarify, I'm not taking about someone who just accidently ****ed me off
one time. I'm talking about flamming assholes who have repeatedly blast
their stereo at 3 am after they staggered back to their boat from the
bars, or parties who repeatedly decided they should rev their unmuffled
engines at 4am so they can impress the girls they picked up. I'm talking
about people who ELECT to do these things, despite posted rules, and
repeated requests to stop. At 3am or 4am deeming this as blatantly rude
behavior is not a "subjective" standard as you allude to, therefore the
request to stop is a VERY reasonable one (not a ****y one), so what is
wrong with being outraged when then request is repeatedly ignored?

While the circumstance hasn't happened, so I can't state with 100%
certainty, should the assholes in those vessels need my assistance, I'm
guessing that I would take a certain satisfaction at their situation. In
an effort to be open and reasonable with you, I'll even concede your point
that the satisfaction I take is a character flaw of me personaly and not a
indicative of human nature in general. In fact, I will freely admit I am
far from perfect. I'm sure a select few people can provoke "my bad side"
to the point of retaliation, but that would take a very deliberate act to
invoke the response on their part, with my consequences coming with ample
warning.

Since you felt the need to fault my weakness in taking this satisfaction,
if you can honestly say that you would not derive ANY satisfaction from
seeing someone who intentionally made you miserable get kicked by karma,
if you can honestly say that you can NEVER be provoked to retaliation,
then at least within the confines of this discussion, you are a bigger and
better person than I am. Unfortunately, any statement you would make,
putting you in a better light would, IMHO, be overshadowed by the cheap
shots, name calling, judgemental, and narrow-minded absolute statements
coming from posts with YOUR name on them.

How I'd love for you to prove me wrong, about your being a bigger person,
Henry. Actions speak louder than words, and I have always been moved to
learn from the good example of others. If I had my way, I'd send the
aforementioned assholes to your marina. After you've worked your ass off
all week for a relaxing weekend, you can demonstrate to me your more
evolved sensibility as they excercise their god given right to disturb
their neighbors at all hours without any comment or retaliation. It
would be worth losing a few nights sleep to witness someone with such an
evolved sensibility, and be proven wrong.


smiling, knowing there's a little divine justice in my small corner of the
world. In addition, should they continue their actions, I'll do whatever
is necessary to lessen their action's impact upon me, stop their actions,
or teach them consideration, regardless of the consequences, as I have
absolutely no desire to live in a world where inconsideration for others
becomes an acceptable behavior.

So you in effect are using "inconsideration for others" to fight
inconsideration for others and damn any laws? Your perceived
standards of acceptable behavior becomes the basis for your anti-social
and unacceptable (acceptable to you) behavior towards others. That is
pretty deep. Have you sought help for this yet?



Once again Henry, except for the circumstances Doug outlined, where did I
specifically say I would be inconsiderate? Did I EVER say that this is
EVER my first course of action. No,, Henry. In fact, in my previous
post, I carefully spelled out that I have ALWAYS made attempts to reason
with someone who was being inconsiderate, and work within the law. Yet
you repeatedly ignore this fact and take exception to the fact that I will
take a stand when all else fails, using your keen insight to declare me a
vigilante and suggest I need to seek help? Excuse me, but I have to ask,
what are your credentials? Assuming your a therapist, what methods to
you use to get your patients to acquiesce to the systematic victimization
that we should all be excercising?

Perhaps you have never had stand up for your beliefs and take matters into
your own hands, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Once again, I may
have to concede you are a bigger person than myself. However, judging by
your juvenille postings, I'm guessing it more likely you either lacked the
fortitude, or were blessed with the luck of not being in a situation bad
enough, to be provoked out of your "evolved" state of mind, rather than
attributing your tolerance to any strength of character.


In the case Doug presented, should I go through all the actions he
described: Tolerance, communication, inaction from the authorities, then
being told to screw myself. It will come down to three choices for the
inconsidrate *******. Fix your exhaust. Compromise with me and learn to
leave quickly and get use to being a little less comfortable on your drive
to work in the winter, or be alot less comfortable changing tires in that
same winter climate.

Are you a Dougie sock puppet?


Ha Ha Ha... yippeee! More name calling! Have you sufficiently entertained
yourself, Henry?


For those who think "rubbing their nose in their own mess" is wrong for
dogs or people, I've trained several dogs, and many people (when I had
to) that way, and they seemed to learn the intended lesson just fine.

Dogs have very short attention spans. You have to catch them in the act to
correct any errant behavior. The only thing that they will learn by rubbing
their noses in their own **** is that want him to eat feces. The dog will
also learn to be afraid of you and also to be afraid of eliminating in
your presence. Only an ignorant lout would train a dog the way you have
described. Do you advocate hitting your dogs too?

With your abhorrent dog-training skills I shudder to think about your ability
to handle & deal with people.



Well I guess dogs aren't the only ones with short attention spans eh
Henry? Okey Dokey, Henry. Since you insist on listing pointless nits and
derailing the subject (an excellent indication of a weak argument, IMHO),
I'll indulge you just this once!

My abhorrent dog training skills have worked for me. The several dogs
I've had were affectionate, playful, happy, and, despite what your
"extensive knowledge on canine behavior" says, NEVER CONSTIPATED. The
dogs I have had have lived very long and pampered lives and were adored by
me as loving faithful companions, but in the interest of a greater good,
they have had boundries and consequences for violating those boundries.
Yes I'll smack a dog, Henry, if that's what's needed to make the dog stop
an objectionable behavior. Henry, I'll even use corporeal l punishment on
my kids as well. My God, what an unenlightened lout I am! Please note:
There is a difference in correcting and abusing. I normally wouldn't cite
this, but based upon your responses, your of olympic caliber in the
conclusion jump....

I love animals and children, adults, and the world in general. As such
tough choices have to be made to make a better environment for everyone.
Often that choice involves dicipline. If my dog ****es, ****s, or chews
funiture in a house, they will not be welcome in the homes of my friends
and family and therefore their quality of life ultimately suffers for
them. If my dog jumps out of the boat and runs away, humps or bites the
children in the marina, or if I am not diligent in cleaning up after them,
then the dog will have to be locked in my boat's cabin when I leave. My
reasonable, and consistent discipline results in a well behaved dog I can
take with me more often and have subject to less restraint in familair
places (at the consent of others, of course). As such, the two dogs I had
as an adult lived to be 13 and 14, spending less than three weeks of that
time in a kennel. My current dogs behavior indicates that she will never
know a kennel she is that loved in the places we visit. So if I have to
occasionally rub a dogs nose in **** or slap their nose or behind for this
greater good, then I'll happily plead guilty to your accusations of being
a lout as charged.

As for my daughter, it's the same thing. I personally feel too many
people want to take the "hands off" approach or be "more creative" in
their parenting. My experience has been this lack of consistent and
absolute consequences often results in spoiled kids that will face a far
harsher discipline from the world when they go through life never having
learned consideration for others, reasoning, or working and compromising
to get what they want. I should know, my mom was to busy to instill what
I needed to learn, and I had a harder time as an adult than I would ever
care to have any kid go through, let alone my own. I'm fortunate that
I've only have to spank the point across to my daughter a few times, but
in my effort to raise a woman who is able to cope and thrive in the real
world, I'll do whatever it takes, regardless of how some arrogant outsider
with limited information on the situation perceives my actions.

When it comes to people, I'm the same way. I'm very good with people from
all social classes and all walks of life. Although I am a little
reserved, at the slightest goodwill, I will extend my warmest
hospitality. It's one of the reasons I love boating so much, it an
enviroment that encourages social behavior. Being imperfect, I have many
faults. I tend to be less friendly with abusive people, those who see
the everything in absolute "this is right" "this is wrong" terms, with no
shades of gray, those who are arrogant or self boastful, those who
"posture" in a social situations, those who don't take the time to
consider other peoples feelings, or people who take liberties at the
expense of others, and those who would rather argue a point at all cost
rather than be open to reason.

I've learned that I can be wrong about my assessment of someone character
and to keep my mouth shut. I'm always re-learning I need to distance
myself from people I don't like. If I can't distance myself and their
behavior is that objectionable, I've leaarned to approach them with
respect and tact, and work to resolve the issue. If they are reasonable,
I often make a new friend and both parties are richer for the experience.
Since I believe coutesy is for everyone, not just the other guy, I think
tactfully saying whats on your mind and pointing out inconsiderate
behavior benefits us all. If we all took time to consider how our
actions impacted others the world would be a better place. Of course
feel free to disagree with me here.

For
those who spout asserting my beliefs will eventually lead me to be
victimized by a CCW, it is noted. But then again, I may have a CCW too
and *I might* just be a quicker and better shot than the inconsiderate
******* I'm trying to reason with, so I hope any inconsiderate *******s
take note as well :^)

CCW or not. If you insist on acting out on your vigilante fantasies one
day the pigeons will come home to roost. One reaps what they sow
in life.


Bob D.



Very interesting. Just in this post alone, I've read how you took my
remarks completely out of context, without any provocation retorted to
name calling, called my character into question, hurled nasty remarks
about my mental stability, called to question my ability to deal with the
animals and people in my life that you've never met, then insist (despite
my posts to the contrast) upon continuing to take my words of my post out
of context use those select words to arrive at the conclusion that I am
hell bent on acting out "vigilante fantasies"? Then you have the nerve to
preach to me: "hoping I reap what I sow"?

You sir, are entertaining!

Yes Henry, I am a bit of an idealist. I do believe in personal
responsibility , and reaping what one sows. I have gotten knocked on my
ass for doing the wrong thing, and walked away smarter. I HAVE gotten
knocked on my ass for standing on my principles, but I'll do it again
because I truly believe that SOMEHOW people have to know when their making
others miserable and learn consideration. I wholeheartedly believe that
excercising and instilling politeness and courtesy not just for the "other
guy". Leaving others to deal when the inconsiderate assholes when heads
down the road, is avoiding responsibility. If one chooses to ignore truly
inconsiderate behavior one, is just as responsible for it occurrence.
Obviosly (to most people) like anything else I've stated this is flexible
with the circumstances.

As I have in the past, I'll stand up any day and reap what I sow. Henry,
will you stand up next to me and reap the efforts of your bickering,
finger pointing, name calling, and general hatred that you've sowed
today? Your post speaks volumes about your online personality. I only
hope that it is just that, an anonymous online personality of someone who
needs to provocatively lash out at online blow off some real world
steam. If this is the case, have fun continuing your nasty little
remarks. I'll rest easy thinking hurtful little troll on rec.boats is
probably a nicer person in the real world.

Sincerely,

Bob Dimond

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 

In article , (Bob D.) wrote:


furthermore you are a totally ignorant sick **** and a shadow of a man
for practicing and condoning rubbing your poor dog's nose in his own
excrement under the guise of "training". I hope your dog turns on you
someday.

I didn't bother to read very much of your long-winded weird-ass diatribe
and rationalization of your illogical and irrational thoughts and behavior
patterns. You are a twisted ****.

later.



In article . net,
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote:

In article ,
(Bob D.) wrote:

I don't agree with Doug's specific comments about ignoring distress calls,
or watching a boat burn, but then again, I'm not taking what he says
literally as much reading in stating two underlying points:

Why not take them literally? He means them literally and he even says so.


I did not take Doug literally because I chose not to take Doug
literally. IMHO there is OFTEN a difference in what someone says what
they intend to do out of the emotion of a heated discussion, and what
they do when faced wth the reality of the situation. If Doug said he
watched a boat sink, or refused to aid in a distress call based upon a
previous experience with the boat's owner, then yes, I would have no
choice but to take his statements literally. He didn't. Even if he did,
that was HIS choice, and even if I don't agree with that choice I have to
consider that he did not go out of his way to cause harm, and I do not
know all the details of his decision; therefore, I cannot conclude he is a
person completely without redeeming qualities as you seem to be
suggesting.

I really think you need to lighten up, Henry. Look at the general
viewpoint not just keywords. Neither Doug or myself have aimed any
personal attack against you. Yet you seem to be pretty nasty, on a
personal level, in voicing your dissent. If everyone took every single
post word for word and not the INTENT of the author then the bickering
would never end. Though it's beginning to look like some of us just like
to "play mean" in our little sandbox for the sake of "playing mean"
doesn't it?


1. It takes so little effort and time to show consideration for other
people.
2. You can't go through life not giving a **** about the people
around you,
while carrying expectations that everyone should give a ****
about you.

When people forget or ignore these simple truisms, which IMHO are needed
for society to function, all bets are off. Forget them and antagonize
someone who is having a bad day, and bad things can happen. When bad
things do happen to the social offender, while the punishment might not
fit the crime, I have a hard time considering them to be the victim, so in
an effort to avoid these "bad things" I would suggest:

3. Never assume somone's inconsideration towards you is a deliberate
act.

I personally will act with goodwill and assume the person committing their
offense to me is goodhearted but oblivious as to their actions. As such,
I will ignore it if it is the first time the offense occurred with that
party, if the action could be deemed as non-deliberate, AND the action
doesn't persist for a great deal of time. If those criteria are not met,
I will tactfully talk with them in hopes of reaching a solution.
Sometimes the solution consists only of hearing a reasonable explanation
as to why the offending behavior is occuring.

Should these steps fail, I'm moving further into Doug's camp.

Doug is a mentally unstable vigilante type. You are of that persuasion too?


Doug may be a "mentally unstable vigilante type" I don't presume to know
either way. Once again I don't agree with Doug "word for word" but I do
share Doug's opinions of "personal responsibility" and "reaping what you
sow". Add to this the fact that I always give people the benefit of the
doubt, believing that their hurtful actions were unintentional, until I
have proof otherwise. I'd say in a nutshell portrays me a tolerant and
reasonable person, who seeks to resolve differences through
communication. If those difference cannot be discussed reasonably then I
will stick up for what I believe in and take a harder line, preferably
within the law, but if the behavior is bad enough (e.g raping my mother,
girlfriend, daughter), I'd have to admit I'm not evolved enough to claim I
would never stray outside the law.

As for calling "mental stability" to question, you've never interacted
with me, met me in person, you've probably read only a handful of my post,
and what you've read you blatantly out of context in a very self-serving
manner. And while most people can tell I need to take a typing class or
use a spell-checker, you seem to suggest that you can actually infer my
mental health from my agreements on points of somone you take issue with?
With undergrad majors in psychology and sociology, take what I say
serioulsly when I say you have rare gift indeed....


Oh I won't
ignore that distress call or refuse to help save their boat, but when I
help them, I'll be reminding them who I was and how they offended me,

So somebody is drowning and their boat sinking and you will be bringing
up petty ass bull**** and rubbing it in while you are helping to rescue
them?
Maybe you are in Doug's "camp" after all?


Hmmmm.... who said "petty ass bull****?", Henry. Who said "sinking",
Henry? Who says that I will lecture them the moment I rescue them from
drowning? YOU DID, NOT ME! Please, don't make up a situation in such
absolute terms than use it to put words in my mouth, it does a disservice
to both of us.

To clarify, I'm not taking about someone who just accidently ****ed me off
one time. I'm talking about flamming assholes who have repeatedly blast
their stereo at 3 am after they staggered back to their boat from the
bars, or parties who repeatedly decided they should rev their unmuffled
engines at 4am so they can impress the girls they picked up. I'm talking
about people who ELECT to do these things, despite posted rules, and
repeated requests to stop. At 3am or 4am deeming this as blatantly rude
behavior is not a "subjective" standard as you allude to, therefore the
request to stop is a VERY reasonable one (not a ****y one), so what is
wrong with being outraged when then request is repeatedly ignored?

While the circumstance hasn't happened, so I can't state with 100%
certainty, should the assholes in those vessels need my assistance, I'm
guessing that I would take a certain satisfaction at their situation. In
an effort to be open and reasonable with you, I'll even concede your point
that the satisfaction I take is a character flaw of me personaly and not a
indicative of human nature in general. In fact, I will freely admit I am
far from perfect. I'm sure a select few people can provoke "my bad side"
to the point of retaliation, but that would take a very deliberate act to
invoke the response on their part, with my consequences coming with ample
warning.

Since you felt the need to fault my weakness in taking this satisfaction,
if you can honestly say that you would not derive ANY satisfaction from
seeing someone who intentionally made you miserable get kicked by karma,
if you can honestly say that you can NEVER be provoked to retaliation,
then at least within the confines of this discussion, you are a bigger and
better person than I am. Unfortunately, any statement you would make,
putting you in a better light would, IMHO, be overshadowed by the cheap
shots, name calling, judgemental, and narrow-minded absolute statements
coming from posts with YOUR name on them.

How I'd love for you to prove me wrong, about your being a bigger person,
Henry. Actions speak louder than words, and I have always been moved to
learn from the good example of others. If I had my way, I'd send the
aforementioned assholes to your marina. After you've worked your ass off
all week for a relaxing weekend, you can demonstrate to me your more
evolved sensibility as they excercise their god given right to disturb
their neighbors at all hours without any comment or retaliation. It
would be worth losing a few nights sleep to witness someone with such an
evolved sensibility, and be proven wrong.


smiling, knowing there's a little divine justice in my small corner of the
world. In addition, should they continue their actions, I'll do whatever
is necessary to lessen their action's impact upon me, stop their actions,
or teach them consideration, regardless of the consequences, as I have
absolutely no desire to live in a world where inconsideration for others
becomes an acceptable behavior.

So you in effect are using "inconsideration for others" to fight
inconsideration for others and damn any laws? Your perceived
standards of acceptable behavior becomes the basis for your anti-social
and unacceptable (acceptable to you) behavior towards others. That is
pretty deep. Have you sought help for this yet?



Once again Henry, except for the circumstances Doug outlined, where did I
specifically say I would be inconsiderate? Did I EVER say that this is
EVER my first course of action. No,, Henry. In fact, in my previous
post, I carefully spelled out that I have ALWAYS made attempts to reason
with someone who was being inconsiderate, and work within the law. Yet
you repeatedly ignore this fact and take exception to the fact that I will
take a stand when all else fails, using your keen insight to declare me a
vigilante and suggest I need to seek help? Excuse me, but I have to ask,
what are your credentials? Assuming your a therapist, what methods to
you use to get your patients to acquiesce to the systematic victimization
that we should all be excercising?

Perhaps you have never had stand up for your beliefs and take matters into
your own hands, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Once again, I may
have to concede you are a bigger person than myself. However, judging by
your juvenille postings, I'm guessing it more likely you either lacked the
fortitude, or were blessed with the luck of not being in a situation bad
enough, to be provoked out of your "evolved" state of mind, rather than
attributing your tolerance to any strength of character.


In the case Doug presented, should I go through all the actions he
described: Tolerance, communication, inaction from the authorities, then
being told to screw myself. It will come down to three choices for the
inconsidrate *******. Fix your exhaust. Compromise with me and learn to
leave quickly and get use to being a little less comfortable on your drive
to work in the winter, or be alot less comfortable changing tires in that
same winter climate.

Are you a Dougie sock puppet?


Ha Ha Ha... yippeee! More name calling! Have you sufficiently entertained
yourself, Henry?


For those who think "rubbing their nose in their own mess" is wrong for
dogs or people, I've trained several dogs, and many people (when I had
to) that way, and they seemed to learn the intended lesson just fine.

Dogs have very short attention spans. You have to catch them in the act to
correct any errant behavior. The only thing that they will learn by rubbing
their noses in their own **** is that want him to eat feces. The dog will
also learn to be afraid of you and also to be afraid of eliminating in
your presence. Only an ignorant lout would train a dog the way you have
described. Do you advocate hitting your dogs too?

With your abhorrent dog-training skills I shudder to think about your ability
to handle & deal with people.



Well I guess dogs aren't the only ones with short attention spans eh
Henry? Okey Dokey, Henry. Since you insist on listing pointless nits and
derailing the subject (an excellent indication of a weak argument, IMHO),
I'll indulge you just this once!

My abhorrent dog training skills have worked for me. The several dogs
I've had were affectionate, playful, happy, and, despite what your
"extensive knowledge on canine behavior" says, NEVER CONSTIPATED. The
dogs I have had have lived very long and pampered lives and were adored by
me as loving faithful companions, but in the interest of a greater good,
they have had boundries and consequences for violating those boundries.
Yes I'll smack a dog, Henry, if that's what's needed to make the dog stop
an objectionable behavior. Henry, I'll even use corporeal l punishment on
my kids as well. My God, what an unenlightened lout I am! Please note:
There is a difference in correcting and abusing. I normally wouldn't cite
this, but based upon your responses, your of olympic caliber in the
conclusion jump....

I love animals and children, adults, and the world in general. As such
tough choices have to be made to make a better environment for everyone.
Often that choice involves dicipline. If my dog ****es, ****s, or chews
funiture in a house, they will not be welcome in the homes of my friends
and family and therefore their quality of life ultimately suffers for
them. If my dog jumps out of the boat and runs away, humps or bites the
children in the marina, or if I am not diligent in cleaning up after them,
then the dog will have to be locked in my boat's cabin when I leave. My
reasonable, and consistent discipline results in a well behaved dog I can
take with me more often and have subject to less restraint in familair
places (at the consent of others, of course). As such, the two dogs I had
as an adult lived to be 13 and 14, spending less than three weeks of that
time in a kennel. My current dogs behavior indicates that she will never
know a kennel she is that loved in the places we visit. So if I have to
occasionally rub a dogs nose in **** or slap their nose or behind for this
greater good, then I'll happily plead guilty to your accusations of being
a lout as charged.

As for my daughter, it's the same thing. I personally feel too many
people want to take the "hands off" approach or be "more creative" in
their parenting. My experience has been this lack of consistent and
absolute consequences often results in spoiled kids that will face a far
harsher discipline from the world when they go through life never having
learned consideration for others, reasoning, or working and compromising
to get what they want. I should know, my mom was to busy to instill what
I needed to learn, and I had a harder time as an adult than I would ever
care to have any kid go through, let alone my own. I'm fortunate that
I've only have to spank the point across to my daughter a few times, but
in my effort to raise a woman who is able to cope and thrive in the real
world, I'll do whatever it takes, regardless of how some arrogant outsider
with limited information on the situation perceives my actions.

When it comes to people, I'm the same way. I'm very good with people from
all social classes and all walks of life. Although I am a little
reserved, at the slightest goodwill, I will extend my warmest
hospitality. It's one of the reasons I love boating so much, it an
enviroment that encourages social behavior. Being imperfect, I have many
faults. I tend to be less friendly with abusive people, those who see
the everything in absolute "this is right" "this is wrong" terms, with no
shades of gray, those who are arrogant or self boastful, those who
"posture" in a social situations, those who don't take the time to
consider other peoples feelings, or people who take liberties at the
expense of others, and those who would rather argue a point at all cost
rather than be open to reason.

I've learned that I can be wrong about my assessment of someone character
and to keep my mouth shut. I'm always re-learning I need to distance
myself from people I don't like. If I can't distance myself and their
behavior is that objectionable, I've leaarned to approach them with
respect and tact, and work to resolve the issue. If they are reasonable,
I often make a new friend and both parties are richer for the experience.
Since I believe coutesy is for everyone, not just the other guy, I think
tactfully saying whats on your mind and pointing out inconsiderate
behavior benefits us all. If we all took time to consider how our
actions impacted others the world would be a better place. Of course
feel free to disagree with me here.

For
those who spout asserting my beliefs will eventually lead me to be
victimized by a CCW, it is noted. But then again, I may have a CCW too
and *I might* just be a quicker and better shot than the inconsiderate
******* I'm trying to reason with, so I hope any inconsiderate *******s
take note as well :^)

CCW or not. If you insist on acting out on your vigilante fantasies one
day the pigeons will come home to roost. One reaps what they sow
in life.


Bob D.



Very interesting. Just in this post alone, I've read how you took my
remarks completely out of context, without any provocation retorted to
name calling, called my character into question, hurled nasty remarks
about my mental stability, called to question my ability to deal with the
animals and people in my life that you've never met, then insist (despite
my posts to the contrast) upon continuing to take my words of my post out
of context use those select words to arrive at the conclusion that I am
hell bent on acting out "vigilante fantasies"? Then you have the nerve to
preach to me: "hoping I reap what I sow"?

You sir, are entertaining!

Yes Henry, I am a bit of an idealist. I do believe in personal
responsibility , and reaping what one sows. I have gotten knocked on my
ass for doing the wrong thing, and walked away smarter. I HAVE gotten
knocked on my ass for standing on my principles, but I'll do it again
because I truly believe that SOMEHOW people have to know when their making
others miserable and learn consideration. I wholeheartedly believe that
excercising and instilling politeness and courtesy not just for the "other
guy". Leaving others to deal when the inconsiderate assholes when heads
down the road, is avoiding responsibility. If one chooses to ignore truly
inconsiderate behavior one, is just as responsible for it occurrence.
Obviosly (to most people) like anything else I've stated this is flexible
with the circumstances.

As I have in the past, I'll stand up any day and reap what I sow. Henry,
will you stand up next to me and reap the efforts of your bickering,
finger pointing, name calling, and general hatred that you've sowed
today? Your post speaks volumes about your online personality. I only
hope that it is just that, an anonymous online personality of someone who
needs to provocatively lash out at online blow off some real world
steam. If this is the case, have fun continuing your nasty little
remarks. I'll rest easy thinking hurtful little troll on rec.boats is
probably a nicer person in the real world.

Sincerely,

Bob Dimond

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:svUhc.5070
I also own an Australian Cattle dog. And when any of them do wrong, I
don't
even have to raise my voice. I just admonish them in a certain tone and
they
tow the line. They will do anything to have me praise them. I can't
even
get upset around them about anything as they will do their best to love me
into relaxing and staying calm. They are the ultimate chill pills.

I have a visual image of those dogs marching around your back 40..saluting
you as you come & go.


They are trained to attack anyone with red armbands and sickle and hammer
symbols on their clothing. Stay away!

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In article , Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:
Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:svUhc.5070

I also own an Australian Cattle dog.


Is her name Karen Smith?

u r 2 funny Hairy..

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In article , "Don" wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote

Wait a minute, awhile back you said:
************************************************* ****
I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into the
backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that matter.
You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube.
************************************************* ****

And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards:
************************************************* ****
LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away that
shoots
snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house backs
up to a bayou.
************************************************* ****

So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.


My comments were in context with the fact that their are laws against firearms
here as in most cities in Texas and elsewhere for that matter.

The fact that police officers are often above the law is not something that is
a localized problem. Police officers not enforcing laws on police officers
happens everywhere. That is part of their code.

So how does you feeble attempt to take things out of context make one a liar?

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

Don wrote in message
.. .

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote

Wait a minute, awhile back you said:
************************************************** ***
I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into the
backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that
matter.
You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube.
************************************************** ***

And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards:
************************************************** ***
LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away that
shoots
snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house backs
up to a bayou.
************************************************** ***

So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.

Oh oh Henry! You've 'been told' again.

By an anarchist moron? Hardly....

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In article , "Don" wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Don wrote in message
...

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote

Wait a minute, awhile back you said:
************************************************** ***
I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into
the
backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that
matter.
You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube.
************************************************** ***

And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards:
************************************************** ***
LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away that
shoots
snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house
backs
up to a bayou.
************************************************** ***

So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.

Oh oh Henry! You've 'been told' again.

I bet he won't answer, now that he's been publicly spanked.


Whatever.

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In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
.. .


So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.

Oh oh Henry! You've 'been told' again.

I bet he won't answer, now that he's been publicly spanked.



This is getting interesting. What's it take to be spanked by a Canadian? :-)
ROFL!!!!!

Why? Are you interested in a little one on one with our Canadian neighbor to
the north?

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote in message
...



This is getting interesting. What's it take to be spanked by a Canadian?
:-)
ROFL!!!!!

Hot quite sure, but Henry probably has more than his share.


Don, Dougie was propositioning you and you let it fly over your head.

Why don't you teach him a few things?

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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Oh oh Henry! You've 'been told' again.

By an anarchist moron? Hardly....

Interesting. It's OK for neighbors to let their vermine wander the
neighborhood making a mess, and the neighbors are supposed to just chill out
and put up with it. Sounds like anarchy to me. If you lived in a
neighborhood where thugs walked around picking pockets, stealing purses and
worse, and the cops gave you little or no help stopping these things, YOU
would call that "anarchy". Sounds to me like your definition is one of
convenience.

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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Let's see if you can follow this logic. You reap what you sow. You said
this
as if it were holy truth. But, according to your messages, a horribly
inconsiderate neighbor should be quietly tolerated. Nothing should be
said
or done to make that person aware of the fact that he is making his
neighbors' lives miserable. Is that correct?

If that is correct, when does that neighbor reap what he has sown?

People will get what their just reward is without me trying to play the
role
of Enforcer.

One day when you grow up you may see that too.



I'm tired of trying to beat a confession out of you, so I'll post it for
you:

Henry believes people get their rewards, good or bad, in the afterlife.
Meanwhile, they should expect to suffer in silence. He is exquisitely
democratic in this way, displaying the worst qualities of Christianity and
Judaism side by side.

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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In article , "Don"
wrote:

"John Smith" wrote
I thought we were talking about the law according to the US Penal Code.
Now
if we were talking about the Penal Code the law is:

I don't give a **** about your discretionary laws.


speaking of bookyak....

We're all still waiting for you to explain how its illegal in your town to
discharge a BB gun yet your neighbor regularly dispatches animals with a
firearm.
In which of the two instances were you lying, or were you lying in both?

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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In article , "Don"
wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
"Doug Kanter" wrote:
Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts
on a
fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider
"normal
suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the
method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really
ought
to think before you hurl, boy.

Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food
crop"
definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for
a
damaged tomato plant?

Can I come into your house and eat all your food, drink all your beer,
fondle your 13 yo daughters nubbins, issue you a matched pair of knuckle
sandwiches and take your DVD player on the way out the door?
If you choose to use MY personal property for YOUR use, YOU open yourself
up
to that same behavior.
Doesn't anyone know how to *think* anymore?


We are talking about a canine dumbass.

You really aren't too bright are you?
No wonder everyone in this group ridicules you, you deserve it.

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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In article , "Don"
wrote:



"DSK" wrote
BTW with regard to the muffler situation, sugar in the gas tank is a
guaranteed way to fix a noisy muffler.

A box of mothball crystals in the gas tank will take care of the owner.
(raises the octane over 5000%)
click...boom....everybodys dead.....



ding-ding-ding... you are a weiner! err-ahh I mean a real winner!

Speak of bookyak...

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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In article , "Don"
wrote:



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly
doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.



Actually, I give anchored fishermen a berth so wide, they hardly know
I'm
there. I've taught my son to assist other boaters who are docking, or
stay
out of their ways if they don't want help. I keep unused bait nice &
fresh,
because there are always kids back at the dock who seem to find it
useful.
When fishing streams, I not only stay hundreds of feet from other
fishermen,
I don't even say hello unless their body language indicates they're in
the
mood to share info. I go over my outboard with a friggin' toothbrush
after
I
change oil so I don't create the oil slick that some guys think is
macho.
(Same guys who don't flush the toilet in public bathrooms).

Henry has no idea what he's talking about.

Do as you please.
You have to answer to no other, let alone a moron in Usenet.
Blackmoore presents his false bravado as a symbol of his cowardice and
poor
character.
Blackmoore is one of the last people to help when help is needed, so he
shadows himself in his false accusations of others.

One only has to DejaNews a few posts (or read the current ones) of yours
to see who the real "moron is. LOL

Speak of bookyak...

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
nk.net...
In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
. ..
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.



Actually, I give anchored fishermen a berth so wide, they hardly know I'm
there. I've taught my son to assist other boaters who are docking, or
stay
out of their ways if they don't want help. I keep unused bait nice &
fresh,
because there are always kids back at the dock who seem to find it
useful.
When fishing streams, I not only stay hundreds of feet from other
fishermen,
I don't even say hello unless their body language indicates they're in
the
mood to share info. I go over my outboard with a friggin' toothbrush
after I
change oil so I don't create the oil slick that some guys think is macho.
(Same guys who don't flush the toilet in public bathrooms).

Henry has no idea what he's talking about.

Really?

Speak of bookyak...

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...
In article , "Don"
wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

You're lying again, its a habit with you, isn't it?
Maybe if your head was slammed against a stucco wall you'd straighten up.

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
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In article , "Don"
wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
However all kidding aside, if you're defending a vigilante elitest who
admitting would ignore (and means it) a boater in distress and would
let
them
sink or die. Then you are no more worthy of being called a boater or a
seaman
than he is.

You seem to be *projecting*.

Perhaps only to somebody who would consider his ignorance to be
praiseworthy?

Speak of bookyak...

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LOL, you tell him Don.


"Don" wrote in message
...

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...
In article , "Don"
wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't
belong
on a water in a boat.

Too bad, you have no say in what he does.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

You're lying again, its a habit with you, isn't it?
Maybe if your head was slammed against a stucco wall you'd straighten up.

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
ink.net...
In article , "Don"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Don wrote in message
...

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote

Wait a minute, awhile back you said:
************************************************** ***
I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into
the
backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that
matter.
You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube.
************************************************** ***

And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards:
************************************************** ***
LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away
that
shoots
snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house
backs
up to a bayou.
************************************************** ***

So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.

Oh oh Henry! You've 'been told' again.

I bet he won't answer, now that he's been publicly spanked.


Whatever.

LOL
I predicted right! Ha ha haaaaaa
Hey dikhed, how does it feel to be proven a bald faced liar in front of
millions of people? ROFLMMFAO
Didn't you mention something about DejaNews a few posts ago?
Guess what, your lying ass has been sealed in infamy! LOL

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
ink.net...
In article , "Don White"
wrote:

Don wrote in message
.. .

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote

Wait a minute, awhile back you said:
************************************************** ***
I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into
the
backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that
matter.
You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube.
************************************************** ***

And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards:
************************************************** ***
LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away that
shoots
snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house
backs
up to a bayou.
************************************************** ***

So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.

Oh oh Henry! You've 'been told' again.

By an anarchist moron? Hardly....

LOL, what a cowardly liar. Ha ha ha haaaaaa

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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
ink.net...
In article , "Don"
wrote:

"Henry Blackmoore" wrote

Wait a minute, awhile back you said:
************************************************* ****
I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into the
backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that
matter.
You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube.
************************************************* ****

And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards:
************************************************* ****
LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away that
shoots
snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house backs
up to a bayou.
************************************************* ****

So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Please consult your boob tube if necessary.


My comments were in context with the fact that their are laws against
firearms
here as in most cities in Texas and elsewhere for that matter.

Please continue (this is gonna be good)......

The fact that police officers are often above the law is not something
that is
a localized problem.

So, you were lying then.....

Police officers not enforcing laws on police officers
happens everywhere. That is part of their code.

.....AND you're lying now! LOL

So how does you feeble attempt to take things out of context make one a
liar?

I quoted your exact words precisely, asswipe, and they proved you to be a
liar.
On top of that, after thinking hard about it for 3 days, all you could
muster was some silly nonsense about cops supposedly being above the law.
LOL
Hey, buttplug, why haven't you turned your neighbor, the law breaking cop,
in?
What's the matter, you scared, pussyboy?
Oh, I see, you practice anarchy when its convenient for you and the rest of
the time you perform like a good little slave.
I hope your (above the law...LOL) neighbor/cop shoots your stupid ass in the
face.
At least he has some balls, all you have are wrinkled, well worn, 14"
labia....pussyboy.
Speak of bookyak...

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Doug Kanter wrote:
Yeah...I got your behavioral psychology right here, Mr King. :-) Dr Smith &
Dr Wesson. The best dog training tool money can buy.

But it only works on six dogs at a time. And bullets don't go around
corners ;)

I apologize if my posts have seemed to be more sympathetic to your
annoying neighbors than to your situation. That hasn't been my
intention. While I am definitely a "dog person" I don't like people who
let (or encourage) their dogs to cause problems.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Doug Kanter wrote:
Yeah...I got your behavioral psychology right here, Mr King. :-) Dr
Smith &
Dr Wesson. The best dog training tool money can buy.

But it only works on six dogs at a time. And bullets don't go around
corners ;)

I apologize if my posts have seemed to be more sympathetic to your
annoying neighbors than to your situation. That hasn't been my
intention. While I am definitely a "dog person" I don't like people who
let (or encourage) their dogs to cause problems.

DSK


I know. The average of all your posts in the past have kept you on my Good
List, meaning I'd let you borrow my lawnmower. Not my boat, though. :-)

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In article . net,
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote:



I also own an Australian Cattle dog..... They are the ultimate chill
pills.


Then you'd better get a more dogs... lots and lots of them.

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:13:29 -0400, "Don"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:31:31 -0400, "Don"
wrote:

What the **** is it with you John?
What the hell difference does it make if Doug agrees with me?
Don't you have a brain of your own?
Don't you have a backbone?
We're not talking rocket surgery here, just very simple basics.
Most kids are taught these things at about age 5, how old are you?
Here, I'll spell it out for you:
*Treat other people as you want to be treated.*
There, is that simple enough?
If you abuse that one simple rule of humanity you may pay a severe
consequence.
Don't let your dog **** in my yard, don't paintball my house, don't
fondle
my daughter, etc.
In turn I won't do those things to you.
Does any of this make sense to you?


Fair enough. If my dog ****s in your yard, you have my permission to
**** in mine. If you kill my dog, then I kill you. Fair?

That is fair.
However, I went one step further, to insure your civility. We installed a 6'
high estate fence around our new home so that your dog will not cause you to
get killed.
See how nice I am?

Funny that in all the posts that I've suggested the same to Doug, he
fails to consider it. I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to keep the unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's responsibility
to keep them out for him.

You seem to have this issue with comparing apples to oranges. In no
way, in any rational person's mind, should something so trivial as
"dog droppings" justify lethal force as a response.

Then you would have no problem with all of my dogs ****ting on your couch
repeatedly?

Why do you guys like to go to the extreme and out of the realm of
reality when trying top make points? Strawman arguments are easy to
pick apart because they do not reflect reality. I'm not suggesting
that you don't have the right to respond to inconsiderate neighbors. I
am saying that you are restricted by law to a measured response.

To take a page from your examples from the extreme, if a kid throws a
egg at your window, you can't shoot an RPG after him.

You seem to be following Johns footsteps.
Not once have I advocated harming an animal, ever.

Really? Then what ARE you advocating?

Dave

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:18:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
.. .


Then you would have no problem with all of my dogs ****ting on your couch
repeatedly?

Warning, Don: You've just suggested a hypothetical situation. Dave Hall
likes to call that a "straw man", which he's incapable of dealing with. He
doesn't realize that virtually every legal debate in the higher courts
involves lawyers and judges trading a series of "straw men" to test the law.
So, he uses the term to dismiss other peoples' arguments.


Doug, you REALLY need to spend more time studying logic and fallacious
argument techniques. Most of those fallacious arguments are nothing
more than attempts at deflection. As such, a "strawman" argument is
commonly defined as:

"Strawman Argument: (np) 1. Stating a misrepresented version of an
opponent's argument for the purpose of having an easier target to
knock down. A common, but deprecated, mode of argument".

Including, but not limited to, building up an exaggerated set of
extreme circumstances which, while intended to better illustrate the
position of one side of the debate, rarely occur in reality, and it's
therefore generally discarded as little more than an endless circular
debate over "what-if" scenarios.

I don't mind, and have no problem dealing with hypothetical
situations, as long as they bear some semblance to reality. The
likelihood of a neighbor's dogs opening the door to my house and then
"relieving" themselves on my couch, is about the same as you getting
hit by a falling meteor while tending your garden.

Dave

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:57:05 -0400, "Don"
wrote:

I design million dollar+ custom homes for wealthy island residents and live
in an area called *Simply Paradise* (run that past google for a clue) and am
always in a good mood and in good company.
I get a little frustrated at times when I go into usenet and encounter
legions of complete idiots like you.


"legions of idiots" who understand the law, and generally oppose folks
who don't seem to understand the concept that society works both ways
Even for wealthy elitists........

Dave

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:05:17 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"jim--" wrote in message
...
So you think that money makes one happy? You sound pretty shallow to me.

And are you friendly to anyone on this board? It does not look like it.

He's pretty friendly to me, even though we disagree on a few things. But
see....here's the deal: Neither he nor I say outrageous things that fly in
the face of logic.


What? Most of your arguments thus far on this topic have been
outrageous. Both of you guys are projecting the position that you are
justified in taking the law into your own hands, despite written law
to the contrary.

You bemoan "inconsiderate" neighbors, who may be guilty of some degree
of negligence, but "retaliate" against them with an equally
inconsiderate response. I'm sorry but you will never convince me that
you are morally or legally authorized to terminate the life of another
living being no matter what "damage" or inconvenience they may have
caused you. There are proper channels to seek out compensation or
retribution for these acts. That these proper channels are not "good
enough" for you is not our problem.

Dave