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When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would youboard someone else's boat??
Doug Kanter wrote: If that is correct, when does that neighbor reap what he has sown? When Doug Kanter metes out his justice? -- Charlie |
When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
"Charles" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: If that is correct, when does that neighbor reap what he has sown? When Doug Kanter metes out his justice? -- Charlie Actually, I think you'll be surprised at Henry's answer to that question. Stay tuned. |
When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
"Charles" wrote in message
... Doug Kanter wrote: I see where your anger comes from. You were a patsy for 9-1/2 years and you feel bitter about it. I'm not suggesting that you should've killed your neighbor. But, there are ways to begin and end a legal process so fast that the neighbor doesn't have time to even think about it. If you didn't have the balls for that, it's YOUR problem. Nice try kanter, but your doggie doesn't hunt. Not everyone is so tightly strung as yourself that they are compelled to avenge the misdeeds of others against themselves. -- Charlie If you were faced with the hypothetical muffler situation I described, and you could predict no end to it, you would put a stop to it in any way you could before you'd let the neighbor drive you mad from sleep deprivation. However, for the purpose of this discussion, it's convenient for you to claim otherwise. |
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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:svUhc.5070 I also own an Australian Cattle dog. And when any of them do wrong, I don't even have to raise my voice. I just admonish them in a certain tone and they tow the line. They will do anything to have me praise them. I can't even get upset around them about anything as they will do their best to love me into relaxing and staying calm. They are the ultimate chill pills. I have a visual image of those dogs marching around your back 40..saluting you as you come & go. |
When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:09:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Charles" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: I see where your anger comes from. You were a patsy for 9-1/2 years and you feel bitter about it. I'm not suggesting that you should've killed your neighbor. But, there are ways to begin and end a legal process so fast that the neighbor doesn't have time to even think about it. If you didn't have the balls for that, it's YOUR problem. Nice try kanter, but your doggie doesn't hunt. Not everyone is so tightly strung as yourself that they are compelled to avenge the misdeeds of others against themselves. -- Charlie If you were faced with the hypothetical muffler situation I described, and you could predict no end to it, you would put a stop to it in any way you could before you'd let the neighbor drive you mad from sleep deprivation. However, for the purpose of this discussion, it's convenient for you to claim otherwise. Doug, there's an old saying about catching more flies with honey, or something like that. So, this scenario seems like a good opportunity for some honey, or maybe a pound of sugar. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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Don White wrote:
Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:svUhc.5070 I also own an Australian Cattle dog. Is her name Karen Smith? |
When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When wouldyou board someone else's boat??
Doug Kanter wrote: If you were faced with the hypothetical muffler situation I described, and you could predict no end to it, you would put a stop to it in any way you could before you'd let the neighbor drive you mad from sleep deprivation. Not everyone approaches problems the way you describe yourself doing. It's easy to say there is no way to solve a situation so that then you can take justice into your own hands. However, for the purpose of this discussion, it's convenient for you to claim otherwise. I made no claim of any sort. I have a neighbor whose dog often comes into my yard to poop. I've spoken to this neighbor several times about it and he's always apologetic but with mixed results. Another neighbor who observed this suggested I smear dog poop under the door handles of his car, or fling it at his house. Instead, when his dog poops in my yard I call him up and ask him to come over and clean it up, which he cheerfully does. Do I like his dog coming over here? No, but this solution is acceptable. I'm happy, the neighbor is happy, and his dog is happy (I presume). I'm not sitting here with smoke coming out of my ears dreaming up revenge so I can feel smug about seeing some jerk get what's coming to them. -- Charlie |
When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
I have a neighbor whose dog often comes into my yard to poop. I've spoken to this neighbor several times about it and he's always apologetic but with mixed results. Another neighbor who observed this suggested I smear dog poop under the door handles of his car, or fling it at his house. Instead, when his dog poops in my yard I call him up and ask him to come over and clean it up, which he cheerfully does. Do I like his dog coming over here? No, but this solution is acceptable. I'm happy, the neighbor is happy, and his dog is happy (I presume). I'm not sitting here with smoke coming out of my ears dreaming up revenge so I can feel smug about seeing some jerk get what's coming to them. -- Charlie What you did is called communication and reasoning. Thankfully this tact usaully works and I'm glad it worked out to your satisfaction. I also think in all cases this should be tried, even before "calling the cops". Still, I have come accross people who can't be reasoned with. Period. Taking the case of your neighbor, suppose the neighbor's response was: "My dog wasn't over there, must have been someone elses..." So you take picture of the dog crapping in your yard and show it to him. "I really can't tell if that's my dog..." So then you pound on their door the moment the dog crouches in your yard. You finally have indisputable evidence the dog is crapping in your yard, forcing the owner to own up to his responsibility, so he over and cleans up the mess. Are you always going to catch the dog crapping? Are you always going to be able get the owner while the dog is crapping? Do you think based on the owners previous responses that they will clean up the **** on their own without your "indisputtable proof"? In short, this person's lack of responsibility has put the burden on someone else. Either be more vigilant alerting the owner, clean the **** up yourself, or deal with the consequences of dog **** in your yard. Since you can't be vigilant enough to always see where the dog went, you, your family, or your guest may have to deal with stepping in dog **** and bringing it into your house. Please believe me, I'm not abdicating ANY course of action. I merely wish to state that Doug is right in the sense that there are inconsiderate people who can't be reaasoned with, and often if it not a criminal offense the police (especially in larger cities) will not respond in a timely manner. When they do the inconsiderate SOB merely denies their fault. This ofen leads to finding a way to tolerate it or finding a way to make them stop. I know I'm being picky (unfortunately that's who I am), but to me it's not always the action that I find offensive. Often it's the fact that someone who doesn't really know me is making an assumption that I should deal with a mess that they've chosen not to. Without getting into semantics like physical ability or age, an owner allowing their dog crap in my yard without cleaning it up, indicates that the owners time is "too important" to tend to his responsibility. It say that even on my property, their needs come first. When I see someone flick ashes out of the window of their new car, then throws the butt out it screams: "I find a messy car offensive, here you deal with it okay?" When someone parks their new car in a crowded lot two spaces is says: "My car is too important to get scratched so one other person will get to walk two blocks in the rain to go shopping". If your neighbor blast their stereo at 3am they're saying: "I don't care about your comfort: Inconsiderate behavior in general screams a chorus of: "ME! ME! ME! **** YOU!" And your right, Charlie, I won't waste my time hoping for something "bad" to happen to these people, but I can't profess to being above smiling at irony or in worse cases having a lack of compassion when the irony is cruel. In the case of people inconsiderate with their car, sadly, it would make me chuckle if someone accidently bumped their car at the light, scratching their bumper causing them to spill their beverage over their new interior of the car that they burdened others with to keep pristine. If the inconsiderate neighbors dog get away and is hit by a car, I will feel terrible for the dog, and the neighbors kids, but I doubt if any of my sympathy falls with the neighbor. From what you write, your a very reasonable person and probably a better person than I am. You seem like you would be a very nice neighbor to have. People like yourself server as a good example that I have to continue to try to be a better person. I sincerely hope your neighbor realizes how lucky he is and learns to clean up after his pet without your calls. Take Care! Bob |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:svUhc.5070 I also own an Australian Cattle dog. Is her name Karen Smith? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:svUhc.5070 I also own an Australian Cattle dog. Is her name Karen Smith? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not ROFL, silly.... WOOF |
When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
"Charles" wrote in message
... Doug Kanter wrote: If you were faced with the hypothetical muffler situation I described, and you could predict no end to it, you would put a stop to it in any way you could before you'd let the neighbor drive you mad from sleep deprivation. Not everyone approaches problems the way you describe yourself doing. It's easy to say there is no way to solve a situation so that then you can take justice into your own hands. Justice? Here's the solution to the muffler problem, since you don't seem to have the energy or the mental capacity to work it out: Call the cops and explain that the noise ordinances are being violated. The cops, being stupid, will show up when the act is not being committed. They will tell you they heard nothing. Repeat the calls to the cops 10 more times. They will repeat their assertion that they observed no violation. Now, call your local town justice. Explain that the cops were too busy eating donuts. Explain also that you told the cops the violation took place every weeknight between 3:15 and 3:30 AM, and that the cops couldn't manage to show up in that 15 minute timespan. The town justice will issue instruct the cops to arrest the neighbor. If the cops do not arrest the neighbor, they will be in contempt of court. The neighbor will be taken away in handcuffs and put in a cell for between 2 and 48 hours, depending on how stupid he is. He will have time to think about what an asshole he's been. You will never have a problem with him again. End of story. Do you need this explained any further? Do I like his dog coming over here? No, but this solution is acceptable. I'm happy, the neighbor is happy, and his dog is happy (I presume). I'm not sitting here with smoke coming out of my ears dreaming up revenge so I can feel smug about seeing some jerk get what's coming to them. I have no time for such nonsense. If you're happy with that solution, good for you. If it were me, I'd invite the neighbor over, shove his face in the pile of poop, and explain to him that he should review his will at least every few months to be sure it's up to date, if he intends to continue his antisocial behavior. I don't expect you to understand this. I grew up in Queens. Who the hell knows where you grew up. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Don" wrote in message ... "Charles" wrote Doug Kanter wrote: "basskisser" wrote Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got back? Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of **** for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways. You're a ticking time bomb. You say that as if it's a bad thing. Place mug in CD-ROM drawer. Press CTRL-B for a cold beer, Don. :-) |
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"Charles" wrote
In many threads you have advocated violent actions against people or animals you believe to have violated your personal space or rights. What would your solution be to those things? |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
What about YOUR "personal responsibility" to assist other boaters in an emergency if you can? How did you transmute *your* into *others*? Do you even know what personal responsibility means? |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
"Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider "normal suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really ought to think before you hurl, boy. Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop" definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a damaged tomato plant? Can I come into your house and eat all your food, drink all your beer, fondle your 13 yo daughters nubbins, issue you a matched pair of knuckle sandwiches and take your DVD player on the way out the door? If you choose to use MY personal property for YOUR use, YOU open yourself up to that same behavior. Doesn't anyone know how to *think* anymore? |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message ink.net... In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message link.net... Anybody that would advocate violent action against helpless and innocent animals is one sick puppy. Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider "normal suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really ought to think before you hurl, boy. Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop" definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a damaged tomato plant? I repeat. You are one sick puppy. Actually, Henry, a garden *does* fall under that definition. These laws were almost eliminated as farms began to vanish, but in many places, they were kept intact because of the victory garden movement during World War II. The current legal argument is that flowers have no intrinsic value unless they're raised by a commercial grower. But, food *does* have value to anyone who grows it. Therefore, any food garden is defined as a farm. Sorry to burst your bubble..... Doug, You don't have to go defensive over erroneous claims. Henry has no more say over your property than you do over his. Just smear his nose in his own **** and move on. |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
Show me where the laws in a suburban area in this country have been interpreted to allow a homeowner to hide under the guise of growing "food crops" while killing his neighbors dog or cats? Garden be damned. The *law* says that if you touch my stuff, I am required to shoot your stupid ass in the face. Get it? |
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Don,
I am having a hard time following this conversation, but from what I can tell you are saying that a dog taking a crap on your lawn is the same as being a child molester. Did I miss something? "Don" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote "Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider "normal suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really ought to think before you hurl, boy. Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop" definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a damaged tomato plant? Can I come into your house and eat all your food, drink all your beer, fondle your 13 yo daughters nubbins, issue you a matched pair of knuckle sandwiches and take your DVD player on the way out the door? If you choose to use MY personal property for YOUR use, YOU open yourself up to that same behavior. Doesn't anyone know how to *think* anymore? |
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"Charles" wrote in message ... "Charles" wrote Keep back-pedalling though. Keep back-pedalling. It might be helpful in backing away from that line. Is that a macro? |
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"DSK" wrote BTW with regard to the muffler situation, sugar in the gas tank is a guaranteed way to fix a noisy muffler. A box of mothball crystals in the gas tank will take care of the owner. (raises the octane over 5000%) click...boom....everybodys dead..... |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote
He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't belong on a water in a boat. Too bad, you have no say in what he does. |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote However all kidding aside, if you're defending a vigilante elitest who admitting would ignore (and means it) a boater in distress and would let them sink or die. Then you are no more worthy of being called a boater or a seaman than he is. You seem to be *projecting*. |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote I have never had "normal" neighbors. God has chosen to test me constantly through life. Besides define "normal"? Are you related to Bush? GAWD almighty chose him too. In the future people that believe in fairy tales will be gutted and hung from lamp posts as deterrents to others. |
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Don,
Again, I am confused, are you saying if your neighbors dog takes a crap in your lawn, you are required by law to shot him in the face? "Don" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote Show me where the laws in a suburban area in this country have been interpreted to allow a homeowner to hide under the guise of growing "food crops" while killing his neighbors dog or cats? Garden be damned. The *law* says that if you touch my stuff, I am required to shoot your stupid ass in the face. Get it? |
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"Henry Blackmoore" wrote Wait a minute, awhile back you said: ************************************************** *** I also live in Sugar Land. And no, one cannot take firearms out into the backyard and practice with live rounds. Not even a BB gun for that matter. You have watched too many westerns on your boob tube. ************************************************** *** And now you're saying that people CAN shoot guns in their backyards: ************************************************** *** LoL, actually I have a police officer neighbor a few door away that shoots snakes in his yard. He is deathly afraid of snakes and his house backs up to a bayou. ************************************************** *** So the question is, were you lying then, or are you lying now? Please consult your boob tube if necessary. |
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"Don" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message ink.net... In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message link.net... Anybody that would advocate violent action against helpless and innocent animals is one sick puppy. Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider "normal suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really ought to think before you hurl, boy. Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop" definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a damaged tomato plant? I repeat. You are one sick puppy. Actually, Henry, a garden *does* fall under that definition. These laws were almost eliminated as farms began to vanish, but in many places, they were kept intact because of the victory garden movement during World War II. The current legal argument is that flowers have no intrinsic value unless they're raised by a commercial grower. But, food *does* have value to anyone who grows it. Therefore, any food garden is defined as a farm. Sorry to burst your bubble..... Doug, You don't have to go defensive over erroneous claims. Henry has no more say over your property than you do over his. Just smear his nose in his own **** and move on. I'm simply helping him understand laws he is 100% unfamiliar with. The same laws I've become 100% familiar with in order to enjoy the simple pleasure of a vegetable garden in the midst of a few neighbors who don't care. |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Cd%hc.16820$GR.2456214@attbi_s01... Don, I am having a hard time following this conversation, but from what I can tell you are saying that a dog taking a crap on your lawn is the same as being a child molester. Did I miss something? This is simple, John. Based on actual experience: I'm working in the garden. I have 3 neighbors with little target dogs, like dachshunds. I cut my lawn correctly in the summer, which means 3-4". The target dogs' turds are small enough to fall beneath the level of the grass. I step in it. I'm preoccupied with gardening. I am entitled to focus only on the thing I enjoy, rather than having to watch every step I take. I step in the turds, and run into the house for a drink of water, and maybe to use the bathroom. Now, there's turd on my carpet. I have to stop what I'm doing and rent a rug shampooer. Not only does the machine cost money, but the dog owner has stolen 3-4 hours of my precious time. If I apply my working rate to my weekend hours, that time is worth between $500 and $10,000.00. The dog owner has stolen that from me. Get it? Stealing. Why? So the dog owner can keep his fat ass on the sofa watching football, rather than tie the dog up in his own backyard and clean the turds out of his damned lawn. Calling the dog catcher a dozen times achieved nothing. "Duh...I have to actually witness the dog running loose before I can do anything about it". This is why one dog on my street actually vanished about 15 years ago. Sort of like Jimmy Hoffa. My property, my garden, my time, my money. No different than if you did a gorgeous job of painting your house and I came along with a painball gun and redecorated it for you. Get it? Same exact thing. |
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"Don" wrote in message
... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't belong on a water in a boat. Too bad, you have no say in what he does. Actually, I give anchored fishermen a berth so wide, they hardly know I'm there. I've taught my son to assist other boaters who are docking, or stay out of their ways if they don't want help. I keep unused bait nice & fresh, because there are always kids back at the dock who seem to find it useful. When fishing streams, I not only stay hundreds of feet from other fishermen, I don't even say hello unless their body language indicates they're in the mood to share info. I go over my outboard with a friggin' toothbrush after I change oil so I don't create the oil slick that some guys think is macho. (Same guys who don't flush the toilet in public bathrooms). Henry has no idea what he's talking about. |
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Doug,
So you do agree with Don that a person who allows a dog to crap on your lawn, is the same thing as your neighbor coming over to your house and sexually molesting your daughter? Do you also agree with Don, that the law requires you to shot the person in the face if their dog craps in your lawn? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message news:Cd%hc.16820$GR.2456214@attbi_s01... Don, I am having a hard time following this conversation, but from what I can tell you are saying that a dog taking a crap on your lawn is the same as being a child molester. Did I miss something? This is simple, John. Based on actual experience: I'm working in the garden. I have 3 neighbors with little target dogs, like dachshunds. I cut my lawn correctly in the summer, which means 3-4". The target dogs' turds are small enough to fall beneath the level of the grass. I step in it. I'm preoccupied with gardening. I am entitled to focus only on the thing I enjoy, rather than having to watch every step I take. I step in the turds, and run into the house for a drink of water, and maybe to use the bathroom. Now, there's turd on my carpet. I have to stop what I'm doing and rent a rug shampooer. Not only does the machine cost money, but the dog owner has stolen 3-4 hours of my precious time. If I apply my working rate to my weekend hours, that time is worth between $500 and $10,000.00. The dog owner has stolen that from me. Get it? Stealing. Why? So the dog owner can keep his fat ass on the sofa watching football, rather than tie the dog up in his own backyard and clean the turds out of his damned lawn. Calling the dog catcher a dozen times achieved nothing. "Duh...I have to actually witness the dog running loose before I can do anything about it". This is why one dog on my street actually vanished about 15 years ago. Sort of like Jimmy Hoffa. My property, my garden, my time, my money. No different than if you did a gorgeous job of painting your house and I came along with a painball gun and redecorated it for you. Get it? Same exact thing. |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Fw0ic.5465$cF6.293888@attbi_s04... Doug, So you do agree with Don that a person who allows a dog to crap on your lawn, is the same thing as your neighbor coming over to your house and sexually molesting your daughter? Do you also agree with Don, that the law requires you to shot the person in the face if their dog craps in your lawn? If you ask a neighbor to control its dog and the neighbor refuses, then yes. It is equivalent to molesting your daughter. I do NOT agree that the neighbor should be shot. However, you must realize that by refusing to cooperate, the neighbor has made a request. He has asked you to bring all possible legal forces to bear on him as quickly as possible. If you do not honor his explicit request, then YOU are a bad neighbor. It's your job to involve the police, animal control people and courts immediately, the goal being to remove the animal from the home, extract a huge fine, and cause as much heartbreak as possible at the loss of a pet. Remember: You are honoring the neighbor's explicit request. As a side benefit, you will help his children learn something which he was too stupid or lazy to teach them - owning a pet involves work. Dog owners like that really don't want to own pets. They probably get dogs because someone else in the house wanted one, but was also too lazy to care for it correctly. In rural areas, it may be safe and legal* to shoot the dog. Obviously, it's your responsibility to do just that, to honor your neighbor's request. *Safe and legal: Proper distance from highways and property lines, and sufficient land incline to guarantee a bullet will not travel too far and hit a worthwhile animal, like a rat, a slug or a snake. |
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John, you better straighten up your act or you will be sent to the corner
for contemplation. Where in my single sentence below did I mention dogs? "John Smith" wrote in message news:vr%hc.5371$YP5.524839@attbi_s02... Don, Again, I am confused, are you saying if your neighbors dog takes a crap in your lawn, you are required by law to shot him in the face? "Don" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote Show me where the laws in a suburban area in this country have been interpreted to allow a homeowner to hide under the guise of growing "food crops" while killing his neighbors dog or cats? Garden be damned. The *law* says that if you touch my stuff, I am required to shoot your stupid ass in the face. Get it? |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Don" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message ink.net... In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message link.net... Anybody that would advocate violent action against helpless and innocent animals is one sick puppy. Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider "normal suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really ought to think before you hurl, boy. Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop" definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a damaged tomato plant? I repeat. You are one sick puppy. Actually, Henry, a garden *does* fall under that definition. These laws were almost eliminated as farms began to vanish, but in many places, they were kept intact because of the victory garden movement during World War II. The current legal argument is that flowers have no intrinsic value unless they're raised by a commercial grower. But, food *does* have value to anyone who grows it. Therefore, any food garden is defined as a farm. Sorry to burst your bubble..... Doug, You don't have to go defensive over erroneous claims. Henry has no more say over your property than you do over his. Just smear his nose in his own **** and move on. I'm simply helping him understand laws he is 100% unfamiliar with. The same laws I've become 100% familiar with in order to enjoy the simple pleasure of a vegetable garden in the midst of a few neighbors who don't care. sigh It's not your job to educate morons, though you may choose to do so for hobby. The *law* has nothing to do with it. We're talking about *morality* here. If Blackmoore chooses to act immorally and infringe on your *natural* rights, you just plug him and turn him into fertilizer. There are way too many Blackmoores running loose anyway. |
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Geezis, what the hell is going on around here?
I said that if you choose to use MY stuff to YOUR benefit than I have the moral equivilent to do the same. John, PLEASE think these things through before reacting emotionally. "John Smith" wrote in message news:Cd%hc.16820$GR.2456214@attbi_s01... Don, I am having a hard time following this conversation, but from what I can tell you are saying that a dog taking a crap on your lawn is the same as being a child molester. Did I miss something? "Don" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote "Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, it's legally permitted, performed and tested in the courts on a fairly regular basis. In many places, including what you'd consider "normal suburbs", animals which damage food crops may be killed as long as the method does not endanger neighbors or violate weapons laws. You really ought to think before you hurl, boy. Uh-huh. And you think that somebody's garden comes under the "food crop" definition and that you have the right to kill your neighbor's pets for a damaged tomato plant? Can I come into your house and eat all your food, drink all your beer, fondle your 13 yo daughters nubbins, issue you a matched pair of knuckle sandwiches and take your DVD player on the way out the door? If you choose to use MY personal property for YOUR use, YOU open yourself up to that same behavior. Doesn't anyone know how to *think* anymore? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
What the **** is it with you John?
What the hell difference does it make if Doug agrees with me? Don't you have a brain of your own? Don't you have a backbone? We're not talking rocket surgery here, just very simple basics. Most kids are taught these things at about age 5, how old are you? Here, I'll spell it out for you: *Treat other people as you want to be treated.* There, is that simple enough? If you abuse that one simple rule of humanity you may pay a severe consequence. Don't let your dog **** in my yard, don't paintball my house, don't fondle my daughter, etc. In turn I won't do those things to you. Does any of this make sense to you? "John Smith" wrote in message news:Fw0ic.5465$cF6.293888@attbi_s04... Doug, So you do agree with Don that a person who allows a dog to crap on your lawn, is the same thing as your neighbor coming over to your house and sexually molesting your daughter? Do you also agree with Don, that the law requires you to shot the person in the face if their dog craps in your lawn? "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message news:Cd%hc.16820$GR.2456214@attbi_s01... Don, I am having a hard time following this conversation, but from what I can tell you are saying that a dog taking a crap on your lawn is the same as being a child molester. Did I miss something? This is simple, John. Based on actual experience: I'm working in the garden. I have 3 neighbors with little target dogs, like dachshunds. I cut my lawn correctly in the summer, which means 3-4". The target dogs' turds are small enough to fall beneath the level of the grass. I step in it. I'm preoccupied with gardening. I am entitled to focus only on the thing I enjoy, rather than having to watch every step I take. I step in the turds, and run into the house for a drink of water, and maybe to use the bathroom. Now, there's turd on my carpet. I have to stop what I'm doing and rent a rug shampooer. Not only does the machine cost money, but the dog owner has stolen 3-4 hours of my precious time. If I apply my working rate to my weekend hours, that time is worth between $500 and $10,000.00. The dog owner has stolen that from me. Get it? Stealing. Why? So the dog owner can keep his fat ass on the sofa watching football, rather than tie the dog up in his own backyard and clean the turds out of his damned lawn. Calling the dog catcher a dozen times achieved nothing. "Duh...I have to actually witness the dog running loose before I can do anything about it". This is why one dog on my street actually vanished about 15 years ago. Sort of like Jimmy Hoffa. My property, my garden, my time, my money. No different than if you did a gorgeous job of painting your house and I came along with a painball gun and redecorated it for you. Get it? Same exact thing. |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Don" wrote in message ... "Henry Blackmoore" wrote He is a certifiable menace that's for sure. And he certainly doesn't belong on a water in a boat. Too bad, you have no say in what he does. Actually, I give anchored fishermen a berth so wide, they hardly know I'm there. I've taught my son to assist other boaters who are docking, or stay out of their ways if they don't want help. I keep unused bait nice & fresh, because there are always kids back at the dock who seem to find it useful. When fishing streams, I not only stay hundreds of feet from other fishermen, I don't even say hello unless their body language indicates they're in the mood to share info. I go over my outboard with a friggin' toothbrush after I change oil so I don't create the oil slick that some guys think is macho. (Same guys who don't flush the toilet in public bathrooms). Henry has no idea what he's talking about. Do as you please. You have to answer to no other, let alone a moron in Usenet. Blackmoore presents his false bravado as a symbol of his cowardice and poor character. Blackmoore is one of the last people to help when help is needed, so he shadows himself in his false accusations of others. |
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"WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:27:20 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: I have no time for such nonsense. If you're happy with that solution, good for you. If it were me, I'd invite the neighbor over, shove his face in the pile of poop, and explain to him that he should review his will at least every few months to be sure it's up to date, if he intends to continue his antisocial behavior. LOL ! Isn't moral relativity a stitch? :-) |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Don" wrote in message
... Doug, You don't have to go defensive over erroneous claims. Henry has no more say over your property than you do over his. Just smear his nose in his own **** and move on. I'm simply helping him understand laws he is 100% unfamiliar with. The same laws I've become 100% familiar with in order to enjoy the simple pleasure of a vegetable garden in the midst of a few neighbors who don't care. sigh It's not your job to educate morons, though you may choose to do so for hobby. The *law* has nothing to do with it. We're talking about *morality* here. If Blackmoore chooses to act immorally and infringe on your *natural* rights, you just plug him and turn him into fertilizer. There are way too many Blackmoores running loose anyway. Morality, yes. But, in some cases, the law reflects basic moral issues which continue to be important to people. Henry has apparently created nothing worth preserving, therefore he is having extreme difficulty grasping this issue. Fortunately, the courts do NOT share this handicap. Henry should invite his lawyer to dinner and request an education. Better yet, he should head to his town/city hall and spend an afternoon browsing through his local laws. It'll be a real eye opener. |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Don" wrote in message
... Geezis, what the hell is going on around here? Don, there is either a dense fog around here, or there's a second thing going on. Henry may have tipped his hand somewhere in this conversation when he said "you reap what you sow", but refused to admit that sometimes you reap your uncomfortable harvest right away. The alternative is "later". Now, what kinds of people have built an entire belief system around "later"? I'd be specific, but I don't want to spoil a surprise that Henry himself will provide elsewhere in this thread. :-) |
When would you board someone else's boat??
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:45:09 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:56:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . Some people bitch a bit too much. Learn to cut some slack and deal with it. We both know why you jumped into THIS particular discussion, don't we, Dave? :-) No, why don't you tell us? Dave No, Dave. It's not my job to help you with these things. You're the one who posed the supposedly rhetorical question. By your act of doing so, you are then taking on the role of "all-knowing". Consequently, I gave you the chance to validate your statement, by further imparting your wisdom on us. Since you chose not to, I'll have to correct my earlier assumption....... Dave http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
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